Regarding the ban wave and farming.

RedRoomGaming · April 2016

The point is I collect writs and like to hit them all at once as I said in a thread just now. I do it on 2 toons but only one is maxed crafting the other one is just levelled to get certain material in the writs of you get me. Now if I use my surveys all at once (3 clothier, 2 blacksmith and so on) in the same place with my banker ( yes I crumbled I am a lazy player) will I get a perms an ban or suspended? I never did the exploit because I had no idea how to use the damn thing nor would I want to but I also don't want to get banned by genuinely farming either.

Megalex1 · April 2016

The exploit is fixed, you can't accidently do it.

Just go on as usual, nothing to see here.

Go to harvesting area and harvest. Then walk farther away and summon banker. Grab the new writ and walk back to harvesting area and harvest, then move on to the next writ location. All legit, all safe.

Turelus · April 2016

Normally when a company is looking at data and taking action they will ban those who abused it heavily.

If you accidentally did it once, or maybe did it a couple of times then walked away and didn't do it again you should be fine. Also if you find an issue like this it's best to report it then stop doing it, that way they know you're aware of it and did it but stopped when you realised the issue.

RedRoomGaming · April 2016

Thanks guys don't know what I would do it I got banned lol.

Inklings · April 2016

Turelus wrote: »

Normally when a company is looking at data and taking action they will ban those who abused it heavily.

If you accidentally did it once, or maybe did it a couple of times then walked away and didn't do it again you should be fine. Also if you find an issue like this it's best to report it then stop doing it, that way they know you're aware of it and did it but stopped when you realised the issue.

But that's not how ZoS has ever done bans/suspensions. This isnt the first time they have done this, and sadly we know how they handle these situtions and its the exact opposite of what you just said. =(

They ban in masses then go in after the fact when people submit tickets and see if they had accidentally triggered the script for the mas ban.

swirve · April 2016

If i robbed a small bank or a large bank should one be classed as a crime and the other not?

An exploit is an exploit, whether you abused it only a little or a lot you should be banned regardless.

You take the risk, you do the crime, you do the time.

clocksstoppe · April 2016

swirve wrote: »

If i robbed a small bank or a large bank should one be classed as a crime and the other not?

An exploit is an exploit, whether you abused it only a little or a lot you should be banned regardless.

You take the risk, you do the crime, you do the time.

It's a video game..

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

I might be a little naive here but I don't understand why people were using this glitch. Sure, you find out, do it a couple of times for the fun of tricking the system, this I understand. But doing it hundreds of times over and over ? Why ? You don't need thousands of crafting mats. Sure they sell well and quickly but if the markets are flooded they won't anymore. And after all, all it brings is a little gold, which is quite easy to make ingame anyway. Gold tempers ? Well, not even sure gold tempers are worth the time...
Not sure I see the point here (besides, *perhaps* Craglorn surveys for potent nirncrux).

willymchilybily · April 2016

Your'll be fine mate

I know a few guys who exploited two dozen times or so. For "testing" * cough* You would probably have had to save up weeks worth of surveys and use them to be affected by the ban wrongly even a couple dozen surveys stored in bank and used doesn't seem to be enough from what I've seen and heard. 99.99% of the bans will be legit. And there will be hundreds of small time exploiters not banned.

I think it unlikely there are more than a few dozen people banned when they shouldn't be.

Ps how did they fix? Are surveys now like gold keys unbank-able? Or did they find a more elegant solution?

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

The point is I collect writs and like to hit them all at once as I said in a thread just now. I do it on 2 toons but only one is maxed crafting the other one is just levelled to get certain material in the writs of you get me. Now if I use my surveys all at once (3 clothier, 2 blacksmith and so on) in the same place with my banker ( yes I crumbled I am a lazy player) will I get a perms an ban or suspended? I never did the exploit because I had no idea how to use the damn thing nor would I want to but I also don't want to get banned by genuinely farming either.

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

willymchilybily wrote: »

how did they fix? Are surveys now like gold keys unbank-able? Or did they find a more elegant solution?

Temporary fix is that survey map disappears from your inventory upon nodes spawn (and not upon picking up first node, as per before the fix).

Zagnut123Zagnut123 · April 2016

swirve wrote: »

If i robbed a small bank or a large bank should one be classed as a crime and the other not?

An exploit is an exploit, whether you abused it only a little or a lot you should be banned regardless.

You take the risk, you do the crime, you do the time.

Are you trolling?

anitajoneb17_ESO · April 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

The point is I collect writs and like to hit them all at once as I said in a thread just now. I do it on 2 toons but only one is maxed crafting the other one is just levelled to get certain material in the writs of you get me. Now if I use my surveys all at once (3 clothier, 2 blacksmith and so on) in the same place with my banker ( yes I crumbled I am a lazy player) will I get a perms an ban or suspended? I never did the exploit because I had no idea how to use the damn thing nor would I want to but I also don't want to get banned by genuinely farming either.

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Do as you please, since exploit has been fixed, you can't be banned for it as of now. Don't worry.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

The point is I collect writs and like to hit them all at once as I said in a thread just now. I do it on 2 toons but only one is maxed crafting the other one is just levelled to get certain material in the writs of you get me. Now if I use my surveys all at once (3 clothier, 2 blacksmith and so on) in the same place with my banker ( yes I crumbled I am a lazy player) will I get a perms an ban or suspended? I never did the exploit because I had no idea how to use the damn thing nor would I want to but I also don't want to get banned by genuinely farming either.

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Do as you please, since exploit has been fixed, you can't be banned for it as of now. Don't worry.

Actually within the last 12 hours since the fix people are still getting auto-suspended for 72 hours for placing survey writs into the bank via the mobile banker while they are in Wrothgar and Craglorn.

Caradawc · April 2016

willymchilybily wrote: »

Your'll be fine mate

You would probably have had to save up weeks worth of surveys and use them to be affected by the ban wrongly even a couple dozen surveys stored in bank and used doesn't seem to be enough from what I've seen and heard. 99.99% of the bans will be legit.

The bans are also affecting those that had just a couple of days worth of surveys stored in their banks or on alts for collection by one character.

Caradawc · April 2016

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.

It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.

phaneub17_ESO · April 2016

Great, I'll just skip doing them for a week or two. I'm low on mats anyway.

willymchilybily · April 2016

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

Your'll be fine mate

You would probably have had to save up weeks worth of surveys and use them to be affected by the ban wrongly even a couple dozen surveys stored in bank and used doesn't seem to be enough from what I've seen and heard. 99.99% of the bans will be legit.

The bans are also affecting those that had just a couple of days worth of surveys stored in their banks or on alts for collection by one character.

need to be more specific what a couple of days worth means? I know people exploiting like I say in the region of 24 survey runs. not being banned. Seems like they set the bar reasonably well to avoid what you describe so find it hard to believe You can get banned for less? , but perhaps I'm wrong. I don't know how they coded the bans.and I don't know what a couple of days worth of surveys is to you. But I think the OP is safe

Caradawc · April 2016

willymchilybily wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

willymchilybily wrote: »

Your'll be fine mate

You would probably have had to save up weeks worth of surveys and use them to be affected by the ban wrongly even a couple dozen surveys stored in bank and used doesn't seem to be enough from what I've seen and heard. 99.99% of the bans will be legit.

The bans are also affecting those that had just a couple of days worth of surveys stored in their banks or on alts for collection by one character.

need to be more specific what a couple of days worth means? I know people exploiting like I say in the region of 24 survey runs. not being banned. Seems like they set the bar reasonably well to avoid what you describe so find it hard to believe You can get banned for less? , but perhaps I'm wrong. I don't know how they coded the bans.and I don't know what a couple of days worth of surveys is to you. But I think the OP is safe

By a couple of days I mean two days worth of writ rewards plus a couple of stray surveys on alts that weren't moved to the bank previously as there was already one of that survey there.

I am not sure but I would guess around 20 surveys give or take were involved.

It's also worth pointing out that the exploit they are banning for involved the mobile banker and the account in question doesn't own that item.

Basically my advice to anyone reading this is to collect survey maps on the character that gets them until this gets resolved.

RedRoomGaming · April 2016

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.

It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.

Are you serious? I have like a weeks worth of doubles to collect I hope I don't get banned.

Caradawc · April 2016

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.

It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.

Are you serious? I have like a weeks worth of doubles to collect I hope I don't get banned.

Very serious, don't touch them until this is all resolved unless you want an ESO holiday

Verbalinkontinenz · April 2016

meanwhile there is no possibility to use that exploit anymore, so thgere shouldnt be any problem anymore, when u do it now. hotfix came last night and since them the writs are disapperaring when u come near to that place.

RedRoomGaming · April 2016

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.

It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.

Are you serious? I have like a weeks worth of doubles to collect I hope I don't get banned.

Very serious, don't touch them until this is all resolved unless you want an ESO holiday

I won't then I couldn't deal with a holiday from eso

Turelus · April 2016

@RedRoomGaming there isn't really any clear information on what's happening with the bans other than people have been banned.

Most people predict it's an automated script which is handing out bands left right and centre, however we don't have any information on what or how ZOS are handling this. I would imagine that there is no issue with you doing your writs now as the exploit has been hotfixed.

I would imagine ZOS is not stupid enough to ban anyone with more than one writ or who happened to store writs in their bank so you should be fine to just continue your game as normal. As always when mass bans happen there are players who were "entirely innocent" coming out of the woodwork to make posts about how ZOS has wronged them.

I added that in quotations because we as the community don't and won't know if they're innocent or not, only ZOS will. There are also always the "my friend was banned but did nothing wrong" threads as well, again how does anyone other than ZOS and the player directly involved know what happened.

Brrrofski · April 2016

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

RedRoomGaming wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Just don't use the mobile banker while in Craglorn or Wrothgar when you put in a crafting survey into the bank, they seem to be triggering in those specific zones. Anywhere else doesn't seem to be affected, but it doesn't mean its not going to happen. Any other object you can use the mobile banker, crafting surveys go to a real NPC banker for now.

Bans are also affecting those that don't even own a mobile banker.

It seems that anything that means you have more than one of each survey map such as daily writs rewards from more than one character will get you banned if they are moved via the normal bank and then collected by one character.

Are you serious? I have like a weeks worth of doubles to collect I hope I don't get banned.

Very serious, don't touch them until this is all resolved unless you want an ESO holiday

I won't then I couldn't deal with a holiday from eso

The exploit is fixed. So doing this now won't have any repercussions. It's all legit now.

Caradawc · April 2016

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the exploit in question is only possible if you have bought the mobile banker, right ?

If so you would think that at the very least ZOS would check the accounts they were banning actually owned the mobile banker before getting out the banhammer.

Nénlindë · April 2016

clocksstoppe wrote: »

swirve wrote: »

If i robbed a small bank or a large bank should one be classed as a crime and the other not?

An exploit is an exploit, whether you abused it only a little or a lot you should be banned regardless.

You take the risk, you do the crime, you do the time.

It's a video game..

It's also a business.

Caradawc · April 2016

Turelus wrote: »

I would imagine ZOS is not stupid enough to ban anyone with more than one writ or who happened to store writs in their bank

If only that was the case.

kampori · April 2016

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the exploit in question is only possible if you have bought the mobile banker, right ?

If so you would think that at the very least ZOS would check the accounts they were banning actually owned the mobile banker before getting out the banhammer.

According to several people in this thread, no. It doesn't only happen if you have/use the mobile banker

Caradawc · April 2016

kampori wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the exploit in question is only possible if you have bought the mobile banker, right ?

If so you would think that at the very least ZOS would check the accounts they were banning actually owned the mobile banker before getting out the banhammer.

According to several people in this thread, no. It doesn't only happen if you have/use the mobile banker

Unfortunately as we aren't allowed to discuss exploits this is difficult to discuss but I thought the now fixed map duplication exploit required the use of a mobile banker. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd do it with a normal bank but if you say there is a way I believe you.

Verbalinkontinenz · April 2016

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

kampori wrote: »

carudocb16_ESO wrote: »

Please correct me if I'm wrong but the exploit in question is only possible if you have bought the mobile banker, right ?

If so you would think that at the very least ZOS would check the accounts they were banning actually owned the mobile banker before getting out the banhammer.

According to several people in this thread, no. It doesn't only happen if you have/use the mobile banker

Unfortunately as we aren't allowed to discuss exploits this is difficult to discuss but I thought the now fixed map duplication exploit required the use of a mobile banker. I can't for the life of me figure out how you'd do it with a normal bank but if you say there is a way I believe you.

i'd think, he meant, that people were banned without exploiting, not that there might have been another way.