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Game breaking exploit.

  • Firerock2
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    laksikus wrote: »
    I just tested it out on PTS and it really works.

    I guess we know what will be in the next PTS patch notes.
  • Twin_Snakes5
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @Khamira here is how i see it, the guys who have an economy as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot beat stuff in this game :wink:
    some people really like playing the game to farm stuff and keeping the economy alive and supplying stuff to players.
    remember how big farmville was? this is basically just that for some people but a lot more dynamic.

    i don't entirely agree because there are games for farming like you said farmville! i understand people only questing and having fun with that but i do not understand how people have fun with only farming mats in this game and selling stuff as well!
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  • Nifty2g
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @Khamira here is how i see it, the guys who have an economy as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot beat stuff in this game :wink:
    some people really like playing the game to farm stuff and keeping the economy alive and supplying stuff to players.
    remember how big farmville was? this is basically just that for some people but a lot more dynamic.

    i don't entirely agree because there are games for farming like you said farmville! i understand people only questing and having fun with that but i do not understand how people have fun with only farming mats in this game and selling stuff as well!
    I know of about 5 people who love to farm and sell stuff in game, it's much like farmville is just a lot more dynamic and friendly and a large community, it is an mmo after all, there are guilds etc

    i used to think the same for people who fish, i still find those people odd but there are a lot of them
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  • Twin_Snakes5
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    @Khamira here is how i see it, the guys who have an economy as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot beat stuff in this game :wink:
    some people really like playing the game to farm stuff and keeping the economy alive and supplying stuff to players.
    remember how big farmville was? this is basically just that for some people but a lot more dynamic.

    i don't entirely agree because there are games for farming like you said farmville! i understand people only questing and having fun with that but i do not understand how people have fun with only farming mats in this game and selling stuff as well!
    I know of about 5 people who love to farm and sell stuff in game, it's much like farmville is just a lot more dynamic and friendly and a large community, it is an mmo after all, there are guilds etc

    i used to think the same for people who fish, i still find those people odd but there are a lot of them

    yeah i totally get you dude. It just makes me sad that people only play his game to do those things and when they go do a dungeon or something they whine and ask for a nerf!

    Regarding that exploit that this topic is about, everything as of this moment in this game is perfect imo except the lag and game breaking issues and exploits that ruins the difficulty and the fun in this game. for instance, if there was an exploit which lets you bypass a mechanic or one shot things yeah i will be 100% against it because it is game breaking. Am not entirely against this survey farming exploit because it doen not affect the reason i play this game
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  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    OP this bug have existed on PC platform since the release of Imperial City DLC, and I don't know wether it existed before that or not. I was offered to be told how it's done over teamspeak and I kindly declined.

    The only way of getting it fixed fast is to write how it is done here, and if you do then you will violate the rules of this forum. So you are basically damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    @Twin_Snakes5 last time with the hide farm in Obsidian Scar that made wax prices drop from 7k to 2k on PC/EU all I saw saw v16 top raiders on my friends list hang out day in and day out there.
    Edited by failkiwib16_ESO on April 29, 2016 11:08AM
  • Firerock2
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    OP this bug have existed on PC platform since the release of Imperial City DLC, and I don't know wether it existed before that or not. I was offered to be told how it's done over teamspeak and I kindly declined.

    The only way of getting it fixed fast is to write how it is done here, and if you do then you will violate the rules of this forum. So you are basically damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    If you don't know how to do the bug then how do you know its the same one?
  • darkstar2084
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    don't know what the bug is but if i was to guess it would be something to do with the banking assistant and that is why its obvious
    Edited by darkstar2084 on April 29, 2016 11:23AM
  • GaldorP
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    If this exploit works as others decribed it in this thread then it greatly affects the in-game trading economy. I hope ZOS will react fast and apply some kind of hotfix within a few hours to stop the exploit from happening (if a proper fix takes too long then I hope they will at least temporarily disable crafting surveys or do something else that stops the exploit from happening until a proper fix is found).

    Edit: Oh, and please permanently ban people who've exploited this massively.
    Edited by GaldorP on April 29, 2016 11:10AM
  • Nifty2g
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    OP this bug have existed on PC platform since the release of Imperial City DLC, and I don't know wether it existed before that or not. I was offered to be told how it's done over teamspeak and I kindly declined.

    The only way of getting it fixed fast is to write how it is done here, and if you do then you will violate the rules of this forum. So you are basically damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    @Twin_Snakes5 last time with the hide farm in Obsidian Scar that made wax prices drop from 7k to 2k on PC/EU all I saw saw v16 top raiders on my friends list hang out day in and day out there.
    dont know what bug you're talking about but its only been around for 3 weeks since the assistants came out
    #MOREORBS
  • failkiwib16_ESO
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    Firerock2 wrote: »
    If you don't know how to do the bug then how do you know its the same one?
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    dont know what bug you're talking about but its only been around for 3 weeks since the assistants came out
    Hey it might actually not be the same bug lol which only makes me wonder how many there might be .....ooooh lordy!
  • Nifty2g
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    Firerock2 wrote: »
    If you don't know how to do the bug then how do you know its the same one?
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    dont know what bug you're talking about but its only been around for 3 weeks since the assistants came out
    Hey it might actually not be the same bug lol which only makes me wonder how many there might be .....ooooh lordy!
    i really dont think there is another bug to replicate this one in such a way honestly
    #MOREORBS
  • Zahcy
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    This thread needs to be closed and deleted or the economy on all servers is going to completely deteriorate.
  • Twin_Snakes5
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    OP this bug have existed on PC platform since the release of Imperial City DLC, and I don't know wether it existed before that or not. I was offered to be told how it's done over teamspeak and I kindly declined.

    The only way of getting it fixed fast is to write how it is done here, and if you do then you will violate the rules of this forum. So you are basically damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    @Twin_Snakes5 last time with the hide farm in Obsidian Scar that made wax prices drop from 7k to 2k on PC/EU all I saw saw v16 top raiders on my friends list hang out day in and day out there.
    dont know what bug you're talking about but its only been around for 3 weeks since the assistants came out

    no dude am not talking about bugs, am giving examples about bugs that are really game breaking

    Edit: Nevermind i thought you were talking to me, my bad.
    Edited by Twin_Snakes5 on April 29, 2016 11:34AM
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  • Twin_Snakes5
    OP this bug have existed on PC platform since the release of Imperial City DLC, and I don't know wether it existed before that or not. I was offered to be told how it's done over teamspeak and I kindly declined.

    The only way of getting it fixed fast is to write how it is done here, and if you do then you will violate the rules of this forum. So you are basically damned if you do and damned if you don't.

    @Twin_Snakes5 last time with the hide farm in Obsidian Scar that made wax prices drop from 7k to 2k on PC/EU all I saw saw v16 top raiders on my friends list hang out day in and day out there.

    because most of top raiders wants everything easy so they can raid and spend time on understanding mechanics and getting really good scores on leaderboards, i am like that unfortunately, i like it though, more fun lol.
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  • Khamira
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    @Khamira here is how i see it, the guys who have an economy as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot beat stuff in this game :wink:

    @Twin_Snakes5 here is how i see it, the guys who have an button mashing as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot earn stuff in this game :wink:


    What is the point of beating anything if you don't have anything from that?

    Why I should beat something if I can earn That Certain Thing in other ways?
    i don't entirely agree because there are games for farming like you said farmville

    There are games for clicking and button mashing like Contra.
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    i used to think the same for people who fish, i still find those people odd but there are a lot of them

    I'm a greedy beast. I want Thingz.
    Dye is a Thing.
    Title is a Thing.
    Achievement is a Thing.
    Molag Kena medium divines shoulder is a Thing too.
    Same as a whole stack of Columbine.

    I do stuff to have Thingz.

    Running dungeon = picking up Columbine. Only the second one is much more easier and based on luck.

    But since I run 90% with PUGs, running a dungeon is also based on luck so I don't see the difference :3

    Edit:
    So if someone can have my Thingz by exploiting, I want to be able to poke Molag Kena in her eye and have his Thingz too.
    Edited by Khamira on April 29, 2016 11:41AM
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  • pitkanencomplexeb17_ESO
    Zahcy wrote: »
    This thread needs to be closed and deleted or the economy on all servers is going to completely deteriorate.

    If we don't look at it, maybe it'll go away.
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    Zahcy wrote: »
    This thread needs to be closed and deleted or the economy on all servers is going to completely deteriorate.
    doubt it, maybe if the assistants were less expensive.
    most people are too scared to do it because of the first mega tamriel purge that came with item duplication.

    doubt people want to waste $50 to get perma banned
    #MOREORBS
  • randolphbenoit
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    While I do have 4 characters that are masters in all types of crafting... I only do writs with my main, that still 6 writs a day. But I wait till the weekends to do all the surveys I collect. That so I can kill monsters to top off my champion points. But if there is proof people are cheating then we should be concern as this suppose to be fun for all of us. But so far I not seen the issue stated above but will keep a better keen eye out for it.

    EDIT Fixed some errors... need coffee!
    Edited by randolphbenoit on April 29, 2016 11:47AM
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  • Nifty2g
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    While I have 4 characters that are masters in all types of crafting I only do writs with my main that still 6 writs a day but I wait till the weekends to do all the surveys I collect so I can kill monsters as I do to top of my champion points. But if there is proof people are cheating then we should be concern as this suppose to be fun for all of us. But so far I not seen the issue stated above but will keep a better keen eye out for it.
    No there is an exploit, already sent the how to and video for proof on how to do it to @ZOS_GinaBruno
    #MOREORBS
  • randolphbenoit
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    @Nifty2g Cool and thx for helping to keep the game safe!
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  • Haquor
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Nénlindë wrote: »
    @Reverb What? Do you want me to tell you how to exploit or something? I'm not going to do that. :/

    No, I'm saying that the majority of the times people scream "exploit", it's actually not. I understand you truly believe it's an exploit, but there's a good chance you're wrong. Or straight up full of bunk.

    And it's easy to say how you know it's an exploit without revealing the exploit itself. Have you done it? Has "a friend" (because its always a friend and not onesself, right?) done it? Has anyone bragged about it in guild or area chat? Has it been posted on Reddit, YouTube, etc.? Unless you explain how you know, I maintain my stance that you don't actually know what people do , or what they have in their inventory.

    Man stop asking for how to do it. People are doing it and literally bragging about it in certain circles. He is asking for it to be fixed both on the forums and using support. Unfotunately he isnt going to tell you how to conduct the exploit.

    And yes maybe he has done it or maybe it was told to him by a friend either way he knows of it and wants it to stop.

    You are starting to sound like you are defending the exploit actually. With your constant calling him out.

  • Rune_Relic
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    It's not doing multiple writs stacked to one character. It isn't doing even 8 surveys in one place. It is doing the same survey 30-50-100 times.

    Yet you will not prove that the writ is being done multiple times. You are making an accusation that you cannot backup and prove. Not saying I do not believe you or it's not possible but since I do writs in Wrothgar and it has yet to happen to me I find it hard to believe.

    Actually anyone stanidng in the same position harvesting the same spot anymore than 10x is very likely exploiting.
    And the posts in here have already pretty much given the game away.
    I can figure out exactly how its done if ZOS was careless enough not to put checks in place.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please close and hide this thread.
    Anything that can be exploited will be exploited
  • Junipus
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    Doubt very much it's using bankers as you can interact with them regardless of whether you've purchased one or are in a group with that person.

    I'd hazard a guess it's using banks or mails though, but I doubt it'll cripple any economy given the fact you can get comparable figures from a good rotation from Harvest Map. Even if it does drive prices down as someone else mentioned, it'll only be short term until ZOS fix it.
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  • Twin_Snakes5
    Khamira wrote: »
    @Khamira here is how i see it, the guys who have an economy as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot beat stuff in this game :wink:

    @Twin_Snakes5 here is how i see it, the guys who have an button mashing as a game in this game is just so sad because they chose that path because they cannot earn stuff in this game :wink:


    What is the point of beating anything if you don't have anything from that?

    Why I should beat something if I can earn That Certain Thing in other ways?
    i don't entirely agree because there are games for farming like you said farmville

    There are games for clicking and button mashing like Contra.
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    i used to think the same for people who fish, i still find those people odd but there are a lot of them

    I'm a greedy beast. I want Thingz.
    Dye is a Thing.
    Title is a Thing.
    Achievement is a Thing.
    Molag Kena medium divines shoulder is a Thing too.
    Same as a whole stack of Columbine.

    I do stuff to have Thingz.

    Running dungeon = picking up Columbine. Only the second one is much more easier and based on luck.

    But since I run 90% with PUGs, running a dungeon is also based on luck so I don't see the difference :3

    Edit:
    So if someone can have my Thingz by exploiting, I want to be able to poke Molag Kena in her eye and have his Thingz too.

    LoooL who are you exactly???
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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    It's not doing multiple writs stacked to one character. It isn't doing even 8 surveys in one place. It is doing the same survey 30-50-100 times.

    Yet you will not prove that the writ is being done multiple times. You are making an accusation that you cannot backup and prove. Not saying I do not believe you or it's not possible but since I do writs in Wrothgar and it has yet to happen to me I find it hard to believe.

    Actually anyone stanidng in the same position harvesting the same spot anymore than 10x is very likely exploiting.
    And the posts in here have already pretty much given the game away.
    I can figure out exactly how its done if ZOS was careless enough not to put checks in place.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please close and hide this thread.

    Me and many other players already know how to perform the exploit and I don't want to it to be spread.Ofc it will be nice to get a price drop on legendary materials but exploiting is not the best way and as far as goes for exploiting bugs related to crafting in general ZOS banned people in the past and I hope they'll do it again.

    And I don't want to be an exploit police officer because atm on EU PC I already saw players abusing it in Wrothgar and it can be even worse with Craglorn because Nirn is still expensive.
    Edited by VoiDGhOs7 on April 29, 2016 12:14PM
  • Turelus
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    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    It's not doing multiple writs stacked to one character. It isn't doing even 8 surveys in one place. It is doing the same survey 30-50-100 times.

    Yet you will not prove that the writ is being done multiple times. You are making an accusation that you cannot backup and prove. Not saying I do not believe you or it's not possible but since I do writs in Wrothgar and it has yet to happen to me I find it hard to believe.

    Actually anyone stanidng in the same position harvesting the same spot anymore than 10x is very likely exploiting.
    And the posts in here have already pretty much given the game away.
    I can figure out exactly how its done if ZOS was careless enough not to put checks in place.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please close and hide this thread.
    @Rune_Relic no no no no... do not close and hide the thread! That's the worst thing they can do (and keep doing).

    Instead release an official statement saying "This is an exploit, anyone abusing it will be considered in breach of the TOS/EULA and will have their account sanctions accordingly. We will be doing a full investigation into those who have used this exploit and take action accordingly."

    If ZOS want to stop people pulling this kind of stuff again and again, then they NEED TO MAKE A STAND! Until that time everyone just thinks it's fine to do so and will continue to do so.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno PLEASE understand that hiding this away isn't the answer to stopping it. Go and look at my thread where I linked examples of other companies and how they deal/dealt with issues.

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  • Lucius_Aelius
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    Dang, this thread is the first I'm hearing of this, if people saying it's to do with the bank Assistant are correct then that also complicates things because ZOS would actually have a profit motive for leaving this bug active (and even spreading word of it and how it's done) as long as possible, hardly anyone actually bothered to buy the Assistants in the first place and this gives people a reason to, and ZOS is a company like any other which is trying its best to make money.

    Makes me wonder if that's why this thread hasn't already been closed, I should think it would have been by now if they really wanted to stop people from doing this. Either way the Assistants are a total rip-off and I won't be buying one just to do a glitch, and it'd be nice if the economy didn't go completely to hell because of this.
    Edited by Lucius_Aelius on April 29, 2016 12:23PM
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  • VoiDGhOs7
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    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    as far as goes for exploiting bugs related to crafting in general ZOS banned people in the past and I hope they'll do it again.

    plz do not lie to us
    ZOS never banned for this exploits
    its only your guess nothing more
    and rumors

    they also do not ban for exploiting Reaper's March blacksmith survey long ago, and for exploiting infinite Hirelings mails on launch

    I personally knew players that got banned for dupe exploit bug using the bank at start so players actually got banned but that was a different game and ZOS used to be very effective.And players also got banned for pvp exploits but thats another story.
  • Rune_Relic
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    Turelus wrote: »
    Rune_Relic wrote: »
    It's not doing multiple writs stacked to one character. It isn't doing even 8 surveys in one place. It is doing the same survey 30-50-100 times.

    Yet you will not prove that the writ is being done multiple times. You are making an accusation that you cannot backup and prove. Not saying I do not believe you or it's not possible but since I do writs in Wrothgar and it has yet to happen to me I find it hard to believe.

    Actually anyone stanidng in the same position harvesting the same spot anymore than 10x is very likely exploiting.
    And the posts in here have already pretty much given the game away.
    I can figure out exactly how its done if ZOS was careless enough not to put checks in place.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno please close and hide this thread.
    @Rune_Relic no no no no... do not close and hide the thread! That's the worst thing they can do (and keep doing).

    Instead release an official statement saying "This is an exploit, anyone abusing it will be considered in breach of the TOS/EULA and will have their account sanctions accordingly. We will be doing a full investigation into those who have used this exploit and take action accordingly."

    If ZOS want to stop people pulling this kind of stuff again and again, then they NEED TO MAKE A STAND! Until that time everyone just thinks it's fine to do so and will continue to do so.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno PLEASE understand that hiding this away isn't the answer to stopping it. Go and look at my thread where I linked examples of other companies and how they deal/dealt with issues.

    The danger is ZOS cant/wont do anything (ie normal operations).
    There is too much information in this thread already.
    Hence...sink the thread.

    I dont disagree with you @Turelus
    Edited by Rune_Relic on April 29, 2016 12:23PM
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