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Game breaking exploit.
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Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭pelennor_fields wrote: »@Reverb
Why would I explain in detail for everyone to do this and run the risk of tanking the market where i have legitimate mats? I can say they never leave the same spot and there is something there with them that is usually not there. I have had the exploit explained to me by multiple people who know how to do it and were encouraging me to do it. I also belong to a facebook ESO ps4 page with 13k members and multiple people there are aware of the exploit and reporting it to ZOS. I want to end exploits - not propagate them... That is why I am not going to explain to you how to do it here. I just want to get ZOS's attention in another method since they aren't responding to email.
If you are doing legitimate surveys then you have nothing to worry about... If not - perhaps thou doth protest too loudly.
Point out where I asked you to tell anyone how to do this. Anywhere. Even once.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
Nénlindë✭✭✭pelennor_fields wrote: »@Reverb
Why would I explain in detail for everyone to do this and run the risk of tanking the market where i have legitimate mats? I can say they never leave the same spot and there is something there with them that is usually not there. I have had the exploit explained to me by multiple people who know how to do it and were encouraging me to do it. I also belong to a facebook ESO ps4 page with 13k members and multiple people there are aware of the exploit and reporting it to ZOS. I want to end exploits - not propagate them... That is why I am not going to explain to you how to do it here. I just want to get ZOS's attention in another method since they aren't responding to email.
If you are doing legitimate surveys then you have nothing to worry about... If not - perhaps thou doth protest too loudly.
Point out where I asked you to tell anyone how to do this. Anywhere. Even once.
Pretty much everything I'm saying you're quick to jump down my throat on. How do you want us to prove it to you?Edited by Nénlindë on April 29, 2016 1:47AMCharmanderevery timenothing ever beats charmander1 -
Reverb✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭pelennor_fields wrote: »@Reverb
Why would I explain in detail for everyone to do this and run the risk of tanking the market where i have legitimate mats? I can say they never leave the same spot and there is something there with them that is usually not there. I have had the exploit explained to me by multiple people who know how to do it and were encouraging me to do it. I also belong to a facebook ESO ps4 page with 13k members and multiple people there are aware of the exploit and reporting it to ZOS. I want to end exploits - not propagate them... That is why I am not going to explain to you how to do it here. I just want to get ZOS's attention in another method since they aren't responding to email.
If you are doing legitimate surveys then you have nothing to worry about... If not - perhaps thou doth protest too loudly.
Point out where I asked you to tell anyone how to do this. Anywhere. Even once.
Pretty much everything we're saying you're quick to jump down our throats on. How do you want us to prove it to you?
If you don't know the difference between "how do you know" and "how do you do it", and feel that being asked to cite your sources is having your throat jumped down, you are clearly not capable of actual dialogue about this. You will not find a single post of mine asking how this "exploit" is done.Edited by Reverb on April 29, 2016 1:41AMBattle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche3 -
Firerock2✭✭✭✭✭One way to prove it is to record and show us. Then delete those pesky mats afterwards because it would be wrong if you didn't.1 -
notimetocare✭✭✭✭✭
✭Fastest way to get something fixed is public posting because either they fix it or they break their game...0 -
Nifty2g✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Technically you don't show the community you'll be banned.
Get a video and proof and send to zos#MOREORBS4 -
pelennor_fields✭✭✭@Reverb
You asked "how we know" and I have already said that to even begin to elaborate on it would get someone 7/8ths of the way there.
I do 4 toons worth of stacked up surveys on one character so i know what that is like... I'm telling you loud and clear that if you are just doing the surveys legitimately - you have nothing to worry about.1 -
Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭It's a pretty obvious exploit. In fact, they've already said too much. If people haven't figured it out by reading these posts than they soon will. It's better just to report these silently to ZoS than to spread word of these on the forums. This is going to be a difficult exploit to fix in a way so that it is fair to people who legitimately have trouble finding the survey spots and without disabling certain in game features. It's likely going to take some time for them to fix it in a way that doesn't break more things.Edited by Necrelios on April 29, 2016 1:52AMTerms & Conditions ["We revoke permission to fictional legal constructs or private/public persons for selling of any private data, censorship, surveillance, personage or conversion as a trespass of law. We prohibit the practice of "procedural law" or corporate statues in place of divine law."]3 -
Nénlindë✭✭✭
Yeah It's all taken care of.Edited by Nénlindë on April 29, 2016 1:53AMCharmanderevery timenothing ever beats charmander1 -
Nénlindë✭✭✭It's a pretty obvious exploit. In fact, they've already said too much. If people haven't figured it out by reading these posts than they soon will. It's better just to report these silently to ZoS than to spread word of these on the forums. This is going to be a difficult exploit to fix in a way so that it is fair to people who legitimately have trouble finding the survey spots and without disabling certain in game features. It's likely going to take some time for them to fix it in a way that doesn't break more things.
Is it happening on PC? We're on PS4Charmanderevery timenothing ever beats charmander0 -
Necrelios✭✭✭✭✭It's a pretty obvious exploit. In fact, they've already said too much. If people haven't figured it out by reading these posts than they soon will. It's better just to report these silently to ZoS than to spread word of these on the forums. This is going to be a difficult exploit to fix in a way so that it is fair to people who legitimately have trouble finding the survey spots and without disabling certain in game features. It's likely going to take some time for them to fix it in a way that doesn't break more things.
Is it happening on PC? We're on PS4
It's on all platforms and there's actually a few different ways that it can work. The best they can do is just get rid of the surveys and give us "x" amount a raw materials with our writ turn ins. These things are always a pain to find anyways with maps drawn by three year olds Nords with crayons.Edited by Necrelios on April 29, 2016 1:58AMTerms & Conditions ["We revoke permission to fictional legal constructs or private/public persons for selling of any private data, censorship, surveillance, personage or conversion as a trespass of law. We prohibit the practice of "procedural law" or corporate statues in place of divine law."]7 -
Nénlindë✭✭✭It's a pretty obvious exploit. In fact, they've already said too much. If people haven't figured it out by reading these posts than they soon will. It's better just to report these silently to ZoS than to spread word of these on the forums. This is going to be a difficult exploit to fix in a way so that it is fair to people who legitimately have trouble finding the survey spots and without disabling certain in game features. It's likely going to take some time for them to fix it in a way that doesn't break more things.
Is it happening on PC? We're on PS4
It's on all platforms and there's actually a few different ways that it can work.
ugh...Charmanderevery timenothing ever beats charmander0 -
scorpiodog✭✭✭✭✭How can you be sure they're exploiting? There's every liklihood that Zeni has looked into your reports and found they are doing nothing wrong. I don't know what those players are doing, but can give a scenario that would create what you've seen.
I do 6 writs with 4 toons daily (24 total). But I hate taking the time to farm the surveys, so I let them pile up. I
Between the 3 toons doing Wrothgar writs, I have 30-40 containers I can't open because there are duplicate survey maps in them. When I finally go farm them, I go to a spot and clear the nodes, reloadui, open a container with another survey for that spot, harvest the nodes, repeat until I'm out of surveys. Then I go to the next spot and do the same. I once had 8 surveys for one clothing spot. To an observer, it would have looked like what you described. But it's not exploiting, it's just hoarding surveys (read: being too lazy to farm nodes more often).
I do this too. You can pile up your inventory with unopenend crates and then do all the piled up surveys all at once. It's not lazy it's efficiency and task management. Why spend gold to travel to the node's wayshrine 5 times when you can just spend the gold once?
If I forked out the cash for a portable banker I could withdraw all my characters' piled up surveys from the bank one right after the other.
Or if you have a second account you could mail the piled up surveys. You just leave the zone and check the next email one after the other.
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Nénlindë✭✭✭pelennor_fields wrote: »@Reverb
Why would I explain in detail for everyone to do this and run the risk of tanking the market where i have legitimate mats? I can say they never leave the same spot and there is something there with them that is usually not there. I have had the exploit explained to me by multiple people who know how to do it and were encouraging me to do it. I also belong to a facebook ESO ps4 page with 13k members and multiple people there are aware of the exploit and reporting it to ZOS. I want to end exploits - not propagate them... That is why I am not going to explain to you how to do it here. I just want to get ZOS's attention in another method since they aren't responding to email.
If you are doing legitimate surveys then you have nothing to worry about... If not - perhaps thou doth protest too loudly.
Point out where I asked you to tell anyone how to do this. Anywhere. Even once.
Pretty much everything we're saying you're quick to jump down our throats on. How do you want us to prove it to you?
If you don't know the difference between "how do you know" and "how do you do it", and feel that being asked to cite your sources is having your throat jumped down, you are clearly not capable of actual dialogue about this. You will not find a single post of mine asking how this "exploit" is done.
Right.. How do I prove it to you without telling you how to do it ya turkey? If I even started to explain it the cat would be out of the bag. We're in this thread because it needs to be fixed immediately.
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✭✭scorpiodog wrote: »How can you be sure they're exploiting? There's every liklihood that Zeni has looked into your reports and found they are doing nothing wrong. I don't know what those players are doing, but can give a scenario that would create what you've seen.
I do 6 writs with 4 toons daily (24 total). But I hate taking the time to farm the surveys, so I let them pile up. I
Between the 3 toons doing Wrothgar writs, I have 30-40 containers I can't open because there are duplicate survey maps in them. When I finally go farm them, I go to a spot and clear the nodes, reloadui, open a container with another survey for that spot, harvest the nodes, repeat until I'm out of surveys. Then I go to the next spot and do the same. I once had 8 surveys for one clothing spot. To an observer, it would have looked like what you described. But it's not exploiting, it's just hoarding surveys (read: being too lazy to farm nodes more often).
I do this too. You can pile up your inventory with unopenend crates and then do all the piled up surveys all at once. It's not lazy it's efficiency and task management. Why spend gold to travel to the node's wayshrine 5 times when you can just spend the gold once?
If I forked out the cash for a portable banker I could withdraw all my characters' piled up surveys from the bank one right after the other.
Or if you have a second account you could mail the piled up surveys. You just leave the zone and check the next email one after the other.
How long does it take for your survey nodes to respawn though? They never respawn quickly for me so I have to run away and then come back so the area can reload.By the sounds of it, people arent leaving the area and just going in a circle, I highly doubt nodes are respawning fast enough to do this.1 -
TheDarkShadow✭✭✭✭✭
✭ZOS will never reply this kind of report. They will ban the players who do the exploit, but they won't tell you what they do or when they did it.0 -
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✭oh damn, i think i figuered out how it works.
i will test it on the pts^^Edited by laksikus on April 29, 2016 2:30AM0 -
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interestingpelennor_fields wrote: »And if we explain how we know they are doing it you will know 7/8ths of how to do it and I don't teach people how to exploit. I have explained in detail in emails to ZOS what the exploit is and how to do it in exact terms. No response yet.Edited by Nighn_9 on April 29, 2016 3:15AM0 -
DHale✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes I have hundreds of kutas and dreugh wax and rosin and alloys from bugged writs. I am wrecking the economy of a video game. Wow the needle for me. Oh yeah that right I don't do any writs and if it drives gold mat prices down... then bug away.Sorcerna, proud beta sorc. RIP April 2014 to May 31 2016 DArk Brotherhood. Out of retirement for negates and encases. Sorcerna will be going back into retirement to be my main crafter Fall 2018. Because an 8 k shield is f ing useless. Died because of baddies on the forum. Too much qq too little pew pew. 16 AD 2 DC. 0 EP cause they bad, CP 2300 plus 18 level 50 toons. NA, PC, Grey Host#SORCLIVESMATTER actually they don’t or they wouldn’t keep getting nerfed constantly.3 -
WhiteTigre✭✭✭Maybe they should not fix it that way people who are greedy cannot keep the MONOPLOY on those item s
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ElderBugOffline✭✭✭pelennor_fields wrote: »Why would I explain in detail
@pelennor_fields
its simple, boy
because you exploiting this yourself, and you wont more competitors
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ElderBugOffline✭✭✭right now i can tell how it worked before in reapers march
there was only one bugged survey
if you got the map and have it in your inventory - you can harvest nodes
relog/go far away from the place, and all nodes spawn again0
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