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Templar Thaumaturge Sweep Bug - Fix coming for Live

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  • Bfish22090
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    can i have your gold if you leave
  • Sallington
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Chillic wrote: »
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    Strider_Roshin wrote: »
    So if a bug that allows you to double dip champion points on abilities that are obviously not DoTs is fixed you're leaving the game? Good thing you're not a fan of the Battle Axe.

    it IS a dot

    I always looked at a DoT as one attack/strike, cause damage over time. Isn't puncturing sweeps several strikes? That's the only way it would make sense anyway.

    You press a button once and it does damage over time. Yes, it's a dot.

    I didn't know you could interrupt or run out of the way of / dodge roll other dots.

    It's a channel, not a DoT. Big big difference.
    Edited by Sallington on April 26, 2016 5:34PM
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    Sallington wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Chillic wrote: »
    hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »
    Strider_Roshin wrote: »
    So if a bug that allows you to double dip champion points on abilities that are obviously not DoTs is fixed you're leaving the game? Good thing you're not a fan of the Battle Axe.

    it IS a dot

    I always looked at a DoT as one attack/strike, cause damage over time. Isn't puncturing sweeps several strikes? That's the only way it would make sense anyway.

    You press a button once and it does damage over time. Yes, it's a dot.

    I didn't know you could interrupt or run out of the way of / dodge roll other dots.

    It's a channel, not a DoT. Big big difference.

    Clearly we acknowledge the difference between a Channel and a standard "set it and forget it" type of DoT. But ZoS has always treated them as the same thing for bonuses, procs, etc..

    Now they are possibly changing that definition. Fine. But they are changing it for PS only? That's the part that we wish to have clarified. Other channels are still getting bonuses.

    edit: hmm re-reading your quote towards the other quotes I may be misinterpreting what you are saying...
    Edited by danno8 on April 26, 2016 5:46PM
  • Latter
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    I can confirm that thaumaturge no longer works on sweeps, ive tested it now.
    I really disagree with this decision from zos and think they should revert it.
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  • eserras7b16_ESO
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    You can't really figure out how pissed I am why the hell would they do that? They balance Templars finaly and now they nerf us again? It's not like we're doing more DPS than StamDK's/StamNB's or Magicka Dragonknights!! We found a sweet spot the class was perfect DPS wise and now you're getting us out? Why the *** would you do that? Puncturing Sweeps is a Damage over time effect it is not a single hit like magicka det or the sorcerer curse it's something completely diferent just as Radiant Destruction.

    meny shouting tho i didn't test it myself, but if that's true i hope it's a bug. Hopefully I am barking for nothing.
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  • rokrdt05
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    Strange the amount of post this thread is seeing and the devs have yet to comment one way or the other. Usually these kinds of topics are addressed fairly quickly. Other threads with smaller issue/comments are being commented on rather quickly.

    In regards to the post, I do hope this is a bug in regards to Sweeps... or in the very least if it isn't, they plan on significantly improve the damage of sweeps to make up for this. For everyone commenting that it's a channel vs. dot argument, stahp... just stahp. You are comparing a traditional DoT to ESO's definition of a DoT that has been in place for 2 years now. For ESO, channeled abilities are DoT's (the ones that do damage anyways).

    As many have already pointed out, we are just looking for clarification on whether this was intended change or not.
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    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.
    Edited by ZOS_GinaBruno on April 26, 2016 6:03PM
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    @Wrobel

    Thank you kind sir!
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    awesome! can you please clarify what is and what isn't a dot.
    thank you!
    Edited by ginoboehm on April 26, 2016 6:05PM
  • Synozeer
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    Does Thaumaturge still increase the damage of Blazing Shield? Haven't tested it yet.
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    Synozeer wrote: »
    Does Thaumaturge still increase the damage of Blazing Shield? Haven't tested it yet.

    I would assume no, as they removed it from skills that have a delayed dmg component.
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    HOORAY!
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    Amen to that, was about to unistall this game and set my computer on fire. :smile:
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    Thanks god :)
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    Aye Thank the maker o:)
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    Does that mean flurry is a DoT then? Also are my DW heavy attacks a DoT as well? It is 2 hits in a row which is apparently the minimum requirements of a DoT.
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    @Wrobel there is a Dragon Knight feed back thread that needs your attention as well, you can find it here:

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/261851/official-feedback-thread-for-dragonknights#latest
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    You, wonderful unicorn, you!
    Thanks for the quick response to put us templars at ease <3.
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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.
    Sweet, thanks for fixing it and looking into it
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    Strider_Roshin wrote: »
    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    Does that mean flurry is a DoT then? Also are my DW heavy attacks a DoT as well? It is 2 hits in a row which is apparently the minimum requirements of a DoT.
    Flurry does benefit from thaumaturge, 2 hits are instant so it's not damage over time.
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    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.
    Sweet, thanks for fixing it and looking into it

    can i have your gold when you ragequit next time
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    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.
    Sweet, thanks for fixing it and looking into it

    can i have your gold when you ragequit next time
    probably not, nothing to really ragequit over unless a change like this goes intended
    templars are in a good spot im happy
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    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    can i have your gold if you leave
    Bfish22090 wrote: »
    Nifty2g wrote: »
    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.
    Sweet, thanks for fixing it and looking into it

    can i have your gold when you ragequit next time

    Judging by how many times I've been asked for mats, gold, or potions, I wouldn't hold my breath on getting gold out of Nifty.
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    Radiant Oppression SHOULD NOT count as a DOT. It does damage while the skill is being channeled. It is not a cast once and then apply damage over time. Same with Puncturing Sweeps and Rapid Strikes.
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    s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Radiant Oppression SHOULD NOT count as a DOT. It does damage while the skill is being channeled. It is not a cast once and then apply damage over time. Same with Puncturing Sweeps and Rapid Strikes.

    lol so cute
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    Pallio wrote: »
    Amen to that, was about to unistall this game and set my computer on fire. :smile:

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    s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Radiant Oppression SHOULD NOT count as a DOT. It does damage while the skill is being channeled. It is not a cast once and then apply damage over time. Same with Puncturing Sweeps and Rapid Strikes.

    Is a troll or just clueless?
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    s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Radiant Oppression SHOULD NOT count as a DOT. It does damage while the skill is being channeled. It is not a cast once and then apply damage over time. Same with Puncturing Sweeps and Rapid Strikes.

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    Wrobel wrote: »
    Yes this is a bug, we're working on a fix now. Thaumaturge should be increasing the damage of Puncturing Strikes and its morphs.

    Boom
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    PainfulFAFA wrote: »
    s7732425ub17_ESO wrote: »
    Radiant Oppression SHOULD NOT count as a DOT. It does damage while the skill is being channeled. It is not a cast once and then apply damage over time. Same with Puncturing Sweeps and Rapid Strikes.

    lol so cute

    And accurate. These are not DoTs. I don't care what Wrobel says. Poison injection supplies a DoT as does Cleave. The initial hits of these moves shouldn't scale from thaumaturge, and neither should moves like puncturing sweeps, radiant destruction, soul strike, and flurry. This seems like lazy coding, and it needs to be rectified.
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