How Many Sorc Mains Are Re-Rolling?

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

Why did you start a lore argument in a thread about Sorcerer DPS and shields?

Oh right, I forgot there are them I't just the next MMO! guys.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

Why did you start a lore argument in a thread about Sorcerer DPS and shields?

Oh right, I forgot there are them I't just the next MMO! guys.

FrostFallFox wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

They should nerf "combo-classes" IMHO, like a stam Sorc.
The logic is simply not correct.
From what I remember, combo builds in ES were far less good in general.

I disagree

I disagree you disagreeing with me.
Question, why do you disagree?

LBxFinalDeath · April 2016

Magicka Templar seems like its gonna be the new God class tbh.

They (and other magicka classes) get whats essentially hardened ward and their house was upgraded to a Mansion.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

Why did you start a lore argument in a thread about Sorcerer DPS and shields?

Oh right, I forgot there are them I't just the next MMO! guys.

FrostFallFox wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

They should nerf "combo-classes" IMHO, like a stam Sorc.
The logic is simply not correct.
From what I remember, combo builds in ES were far less good in general.

I disagree

I disagree you disagreeing with me.
Question, why do you disagree?

Aw?
I did an EDIT, then QUOTE, REPLY, POST.
How come my previous comment is not quoted as well into a new post?
O_O

Feynn · April 2016

Lucky28 wrote: »

Nénlindë wrote: »

Lucky28 wrote: »

I'm not re-rolling sorc is the class i enjoy playing. if the changes to duration on wards and the changes to harness go though, i'm out.

Nénlindë wrote: »

About time they got nerfed.

sorcs will be harder to kill not easier. read the changes before you comment.

Explain how you think Sorcs will be harder to kill?

@Rylana already answered. duration was never an issue in regards to PvP. the only aspect the changes to duration negatively effect is PvE.

Shield stacking for sorcs got buffed in a big way

... which is kind of a bummer for those of us who enjoy PvE more than PvP!

Valrien · April 2016

I'm rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

Why did you start a lore argument in a thread about Sorcerer DPS and shields?

Oh right, I forgot there are them I't just the next MMO! guys.

Dude, if you're not going to contribute then just get out. I get it, you're salty for no reason...but your salt has no place here. We only accept the salty tears of PvE DPS and PvP Sorcerers in this thread.

EsoRecon · April 2016

Other?

Ha

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

Why did you start a lore argument in a thread about Sorcerer DPS and shields?

Oh right, I forgot there are them I't just the next MMO! guys.

Dude, if you're not going to contribute then just get out. I get it, you're salty for no reason...but your salt has no place here. We only accept the salty tears of PvE DPS and PvP Sorcerers in this thread.

Maybe, and this is merely a thought, you should read all posts, and THEN react.
My post is not off topic.

Just giving you an idea here, do with it what you like, my friend.

Valrien · April 2016

I'm rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Quite frankly, I simply don't get this all.
Since this 'game' is nothing more than the next MMO (or everybody at least acts that way, ZOS included, what a shame) I am entirely lost here.

I've been an Elder Scrolls gamer since day one, but this thing called ESO isn't at all ES, it's just the looks of it, but turned into something I'm lost in.

So please, tell me just what this is all about?

Thank you.

This is what you originally posted. Doesn't look on-topic to me. If you want the "actual" ES games you have 5 others to choose from, and a couple of spin-offs as well.

No one needs to tell you what this thread is all about unless you're incapable of reading for yourself.

Pallio · April 2016

Other?

This rotation will make your fingers go numb, bar swap shields, cast 2 spells, swap cast shields.... just don't want to swap bars that much... was already annoying the way it was.. that is assuming you have the regen to even do this every 6 sec... gonna have to play something else..

idk · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

OP. Have you even been on the PTS or are you just qq for the heck of it?

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

Valrien wrote: »

This is what you originally posted. Doesn't look on-topic to me. If you want the "actual" ES games you have 5 others to choose from, and a couple of spin-offs as well.

No one needs to tell you what this thread is all about unless you're incapable of reading for yourself.

Wait, you pin my on an ON TOPIC question, explaining that I do not get the changes here in ESO are, since these are far different in ES games?

Tell me, what the hell have I missed, then?

ListerJMC · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

I don't fully understand all the sorcerer doom and gloom about this patch, I don't really think it'll effect my main at all. Granted I don't really use ward except in circumstances when it's taking a huge beating and doesn't stay up for 20 seconds anyway.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

And that, Lister, is what I have as well...

Which I asked about this.

Uriel_Nocturne · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

I'm not.

I've never run any of the FotM builds, so the changes to Sorcerers don't affect me any.

I only PvE, and on the rare times I enter Cyrodiil, I'm only there for the PvE Quests.

I run with a Clannfear, Lightning Splash (for a bit of AoE for larger mobs), fully charged Staff attacks, and the knock-back (Flame Staff skill ability) for when enemies get too close. So I'm OK with the changes, and I can't see myself re-rolling or reassigning any Skills.

Though with that said, I can see how the changes wouldn't be... popular with certain PvP builds. But overall, I'm "meh" about the changes.

dRudE · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

I don't see the ability to use extra shields as a bad thing...

Already theory crafted a beast of a build for sorc DB patch, and it's really not much different from now.

I think the decrease in time on shields only affects PVE sorcs because in real PVP fights you'll be re applying at that rate anyway. Plus the fact harness will now absorb phys hits meaning less ward spammage.

ListerJMC · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

And that, Lister, is what I have as well...

Which I asked about this.

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Sorcerer
Dark Magic
Absorption Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now heals you and your allies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Suppression Field (Negate Magic morph): Redesigned this morph so it now damages enemies standing within the area of effect, in addition to stunning or silencing enemies.

Daedric Summoning
Fixed an issue where many Sorcerer pets did not have any Physical Resistance. They will now all have a normalized amount of Physical Resistance equal to their Spell Resistance.

Bound Armor: This ability and its morphs no longer permanently change your appearance when they are toggled on; instead, they now only display a brief visual effect when toggled on.

Conjured Ward: Reduced the duration of this ability and the Hardened Ward morph to 6 seconds from 20 seconds.

Empowered Ward (Conjured Ward morph): Reduced the duration of this morph to 8 seconds from 20 seconds.

Expert Summoner:
Redesigned this passive ability so it now grants you 4/8% more maximum health whenever you have a Daedric Summoning pet active.

This passive ability’s old bonuses are now baseline effects for your pets.

Storm Calling
Thundering Presence (Lightning Form morph):
Renamed this morph to Hurricane.

Redesigned this morph so it now increases the size and damage of the periodic effect the longer it is active, increasing up to 225% more damage and up to 9 meters in size.

This morph now deals Physical Damage instead of Shock Damage.

Surak73 · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

Why I should re-roll? I have a v16 stamblade and a v16 mag templar, they both will enjoy the new dlc a lot... The sorc will have a rest, until a new patch will nerf someone else...

Having multiple characters is the only way to serenely play ESO...

Lord_Wrath · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

Ive always been a sorc, im never gonna put 2 years in another toon. Besides, rerolling over changes is pretty lame.

Van_0S · April 2016

Dymence wrote: »

Re-rolling is for noobs.

Well, everyone starts as a noob anyways!

Naff · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

I'm not re-rolling. When I'm in a situation that I need shields, I'm spamming them anyhow as damages is taking them down. It is bothersome that I have to recast every 6 seconds now to keep them up before or going into a fight. I do get tired of PvP issues being the root of skill changes that affect PvE though. And I don't understand how this will fix Shield stacking, except maybe make you run out of Magika trying to keep what ever shield your running up. I don't care for PvP, or the issues in PvP, so when these sort of changes come across and seem to stem from PvP complaints, I wish they'd just isolate PvP Cyrodiil from the rest of the game world. But I digress... No I won't re-roll over this, but I expect it will aggravate my carpel tunnel a bit.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO · April 2016

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:
...

Thank you, how does this relate this to the game?
I did read the notes, but they make not much sense to me....

Valrien · April 2016

I'm rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:
...

Thank you, how does this relate this to the game?
I did read the notes, but they make not much sense to me....

The Sorcerer class is in the game...that's how >.<

CasNation · April 2016

Other?

I am going to see how things shake out before I "reroll" (in quotes because I have a magblade, stamblade, and templar ready to go as soon as VR is removed, so I don't really have to reroll anything).

That said, the shield changes screwed with my pve playstyle may more than my pvp playstyle. As a sorc healer, I have to use my stupid pet with 10k health. The only way to reliably keep it and myself alive was with Ward, since sorc heals scale only from max magicka, not mag and SD. Hence, my health is a little low, but ward made up for it. I would move some magicka into health and SD, but I can't if I want to put out the heals required of me. With a templar ready to go...I am thinking I may give up on sorc healing, a playstyle they are obviously trying to support with the new changes, and that I have plaued since early access.

STEVIL · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

Day 2 of playtest and the sun came up anywsy.

Go figure.

My main issue with this is...

I want the... no more like NEED... the four character slots in the crown store for REAL not PTS Thursday, not held back while they work out how many daedra can dance on the pinhead of a sorcerer.

ListerJMC · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:
...

Thank you, how does this relate this to the game?
I did read the notes, but they make not much sense to me....

Well it's going to depend on how you play your sorcerer, but basically to sum it up:

- "Negate Magic" has some different morphs to heal allies or deal damage to enemies in its area of effect.
- If you summon clannfear or scamps, they're going to be a bit stronger now.
- If you hated the appearance of "Bound Armor" like me, you can rejoice! The horrid appearance is no more.
- "Conjured Ward", a shield spell, now only lasts for 6-8 seconds instead of its previous 20 seconds.
- The "Thundering Presence" morph of "Lightning Form" deals physical damage now instead of lightning damage and is now called "Hurricane".

The main issue people are having with this is the change to "Conjured Ward" which I've put in bold, as it will now last for under half as long as it did before. Whether you see this as an issue or not is up to your playstyle.

Valrien · April 2016

I'm rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

ListerJMC wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:
...

Thank you, how does this relate this to the game?
I did read the notes, but they make not much sense to me....

Well it's going to depend on how you play your sorcerer, but basically to sum it up:

- "Negate Magic" has some different morphs to heal allies or deal damage to enemies in its area of effect.
- If you summon clannfear or scamps, they're going to be a bit stronger now.
- If you hated the appearance of "Bound Armor" like me, you can rejoice! The horrid appearance is no more.
- "Conjured Ward", a shield spell, now only lasts for 6-8 seconds instead of its previous 20 seconds.
- The "Thundering Presence" morph of "Lightning Form" deals physical damage now instead of lightning damage and is now called "Hurricane".

The main issue people are having with this is the change to "Conjured Ward" which I've put in bold, as it will now last for half as long as it did before. Whether you see this as an issue or not is up to your playstyle.

My main issue is lack of changes to sustained DPS.

Moonshadow66 · April 2016

Other?

My "main" is a magicka Sorcerer (even all 3 Sorcs I have are magicka builds), but I won't "re-roll" anything. I will get new character slots, but I'll play them as I've never played any character before. No Bretons anymore and probably no Sorcerer anymore either, I want to have at least one Redguard and one Darkelf, and then I'll see what I'll do with them

What I'll definitely do is level all available skills from the start as soon as I unlock them.. not like as it is now that I have to level some skills at VR16 which is a bit late. Anyways, we'll see

Egonieser · April 2016

Other?

I already have one of each class at max (with max CP). At the very worst I might need to change gear or re-spec CP to whatever the next FoTM is...

ListerJMC · April 2016

I'm not rerolling my Magicka Sorc main.

Valrien wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

ListerJMC wrote: »

I'm really sorry but I don't understand what your question is. Do you have a magicka sorcerer and don't know what the patch is going to do to them or have I misinterpreted? If so, the patch notes are here:
...

Thank you, how does this relate this to the game?
I did read the notes, but they make not much sense to me....

Well it's going to depend on how you play your sorcerer, but basically to sum it up:

- "Negate Magic" has some different morphs to heal allies or deal damage to enemies in its area of effect.
- If you summon clannfear or scamps, they're going to be a bit stronger now.
- If you hated the appearance of "Bound Armor" like me, you can rejoice! The horrid appearance is no more.
- "Conjured Ward", a shield spell, now only lasts for 6-8 seconds instead of its previous 20 seconds.
- The "Thundering Presence" morph of "Lightning Form" deals physical damage now instead of lightning damage and is now called "Hurricane".

The main issue people are having with this is the change to "Conjured Ward" which I've put in bold, as it will now last for half as long as it did before. Whether you see this as an issue or not is up to your playstyle.

My main issue is lack of changes to sustained DPS.

I didn't even think of that as I don't think this will change how I sustain DPS at all. It sounds like I play a weird kind of sorcerer

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