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I'm pretty sure the OP is talking about the lack of changes in regard to competitive PvE DPS...

Anyways, against a good player my shields don't last six seconds anyways if I'm getting pressured hard. If I'm not getting pressured, it will admittedly be more annoying to keep up my shields in preparation for getting pressured. A sorc going turtle-mode will have just as much defense as before + more vs stam because of the harness magicka change (though stam will be hitting harder in general). Where we are really getting hurt (imo) is in losing Dawnbreaker of Smiting as a magic damage ultimate, and in losing much of the damage from proxy (probably not worth it on an individual target anymore). If I had a choice between getting Dawnbreaker of Smiting or Hardened Ward reverted, it would be Dawnbreaker (for PvP). Or getting rid of that gawdawful stacking cost on streak.

All this re-rolling mains talk is ridiculous imo. All classes in a MMO are constantly subject to change, be it positive or negative for the class. If you like a class, and like a playstyle, play it. Simple as that. And also the new suppression field looks fun.

Re-rolling is for noobs.

MasterSpatula wrote: »

lassitershawn wrote: »

Magicka sorc 4 lyfe.

I play 6 characters. My Magica Sorc was my fave from Day 1. I played her when she was best class. I'll play her if she's worst.

Hats off to you Sir.

These changes only pwn noob sorcs lol. Harness is becoming so OP in case you peole havent noticed.It blocks everything under the sky and returns mag while being hit with magicka based attacks. On my sorc I dont EVER recall my hardened ward lasting for longer than 2-3 seconds against anyone with half a brain lol. The 6 second only affects pre-buffing before fights with hardened + harness + healing ward which was NEVER healthy for the game anyway. Now you just need to apply one of the above shields regularly and stop relying on shield stacking to power through with 7/7 divines light cheese builds in PvP.

Honestly this is no different from when cloak got nerfed with TG. The whole forums were ripe with OH NB GONE WAHH WAAH or IMMA PAWN ALL YOU GANKER NBS HAHAHAH etc etc threads. One week later and IC + cyro is still has a healthy population of stamGankblades and magBomberVDblades. Just give people some time to finish crying and they will realise that these changes arent really as harsh as they seem. If anything, its a pretty decent buff to sorcs with harness being so versatile now.

We'll see. Until it is finalized and you really get to try it out, the real impact is guesswork. At a minimum Hardened Ward will be replaced on my bar by Harness.

Shield stacking, 100% uptime overload/CF spamming sorcs kinda got buffed with the Harness Magicka change. Buffed as much as stam got buffed? It's hard to say yet. 6 seconds (at most) is nothing compared to being Feared or getting stun locked, and all those other players also got the Harness Magicka buff or Bone Wall.

But I don't play my sorc that way, and it looks like now I will either have to or play something else. Maybe bar swapping is reliable for you in PvP, but it sure isn't for me.

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

Quite frankly, I simply don't get this all.
Since this 'game' is nothing more than the next MMO (or everybody at least acts that way, ZOS included, what a shame) I am entirely lost here.

I've been an Elder Scrolls gamer since day one, but this thing called ESO isn't at all ES, it's just the looks of it, but turned into something I'm lost in.

So please, tell me just what this is all about?

Thank you.

You say it isn't TES because it isn't single player. If you look beyond that it really is TES.

No, I'm saying ZOS made the lore and systems too much not-ES.
Big difference.

From a role player PoV, this is not quite the ES I am used to.

Hell, haven't you seen posts of people asking to add FF and the likes to this game?
I rest my case.

Thus my question still stands.
Any kind soul to elaborate?

bloodenragedb14_ESO wrote: »

Until this either changes to a more reasonable duration, or dropped entirely, imma just go play Rift

This change to ward has literally sucked all the motivation to play the game, after DB launch and now

whats the point if the only skill that keeps me and my pets alive is nerfed into uselessness, whats the point in playing now when i know that post DB my entire skillset is broken

seriously i deal with depression enough, i dont need this

Edit: whats the point? really, this skill has been a intergral part of every pve build i have since early access

L2p issue here.

There are several things...
Example: Skyrim WW: one could change once a day, BUT keep the form for prolonged times.
Vampires, from what I experienced, were far from this powerful in here.
Sure, there were some nice things, but man, being a Vampire meant: sunlight would deprive you of anything for several %.
It's a creature of the night, after all.

the list is too big to get into, I once made a post about some things that annoyed me as a role player, but the ONLY reaction I got was:
1) get over it.
2) this is NOT Elder Scrolls, it's just the next MMO, get used to it.
3) well remarks like this.

Probably these will be coming in here as well any time now...

I hope all the sorcs curently qqing do reroll will be nice for them to experience not being drastically op for a change and if they think mag sorcs bad they will be easy ap on any other class

I will actually be creating a new sorc with this patch! Probably an Imperial ( stamsorc )

4 Char slots FTW

dtm_samuraib16_ESO wrote: »

They should nerf "combo-classes" IMHO, like a stam Sorc.
The logic is simply not correct.
From what I remember, combo builds in ES were far less good in general.

I disagree

From playing templar I've learned never to put all hopes on one char.

I'll fully equip at least 3 (maybe 4) PvP chars for different occasions plus one PvE DD. I guess my sorc will remain the main char for solo PvP and group fights (maybe with an added templar just for the guild but tbh I don't want to). negates all the way

I'll try both, stamina templar and DK as duel chars (expect them to be strong) and test how well they work in open-world solo pvp and see if they can make me degrade my sorc for group pvp. Most probably, I'll leave one of them equipped.

I might equip my stamblade and go gank a bit when I get bored shortly before the Q3 DLC.

I'll leave my magicka DK as PvE char.

I think sorcs became STRONGER in group fights and slightly weaker when playing solo/small scale. Almost no difference in duels (more through changes to other classes). The most significant change is that they'll become MUHC MUCH harder to play well in solo/small scale. Everyone who thinks 6s isn't a big deal (because sometimes you recast othen anyway) is in fur a HUGE surprise