Shuffle exploit!!!!

Junkogen · April 2016

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

Junkogen wrote: »

There must be some way that we can blame this on cloak....

Nightblades probably need to be nerfed again. This only proves that shuffle can only be used while cloaking and therefore Nightblades should be removed from the game until further notice.

Test my deductive logic. It is sound and you are wrong.

Nerf or nothing.

That enemy player was a DK and didn't even use stealth potion or be in stealth, just waiting for us to come.
I came to him by using my toppling charge in stealth twice and he never got knock backed at all.

This only confirms my argument! Cloak did this! It must be cloak. It has to be!

susmitds · April 2016

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

This was in IC not in cyrodiil.
I was going solo and some other players as well in my faction( only 3 players vs 1 DK shuffle exploiter)

So the cat is out of the bag. It was a 1vs3, not a 1vs15. Then from your definition of this guy, he had vigor, rally, shuffle, immovable etc. So many defence buffs and heals ought to make him hard to kill. Now you are saying you USED JABS AS YOUR MAIN ATTACK. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROPER PvPer THAT WON'T DODGE OR STACK SHIELDS AND WILL TAKE THE HIT. JABS IS ONE OF FEW ATTACKS EVERYBODY TRIES TO AVOID AND YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO AIM IT. Plus you went to IC without any kind of CC. Rather easy battle from his side to be honest.

Inarre · April 2016

anyone who thinks this is bogus clearly hasn't been in cyrodiil much. this is very much an issue. and a very annoying exploit.

Zagnut123Zagnut123 · April 2016

So I spend a substantial amount of time in the imperial city and haven't seen this. Ive heard about it but haven't come upon someone using or noticed for that matter. Ill I'll test to see if I can replicate it but I think it's probaly misidentification in my honest opinion.

Greenwood1900 · April 2016

I spend most of my time in Cyrodiil and Imperial City and I NEVER saw anything that would make me think "Shuffle exploit!".

Why don't you post a video of someone doing it? Not the exploit itself, just the guy dodging everything and being unkillable.

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Shuffle is totally broken especially on stamina builds,YES I know how the exploit works but I won't tell anyone because I'm tired of fighting stamina builds and be able to only use Velocious Curse and Proxy in order to damage them.

And to everyone saying that's working as intended just stop it you know that's not true.But yes, ESO Community Exploiting Abusing broken mechanics since 2014.

Maybe @ZOS manages to get it fixed but NO ETA on that

.Meanwhile more and more stamina and also magicka builds running it.

Alcast · April 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is totally broken especially on stamina builds,YES I know how the exploit works but I won't tell anyone because I'm tired of fighting stamina builds and be able to only use Velocious Curse and Proxy in order to damage them.

And to everyone saying that's working as intended just stop it you know that's not true.But yes, ESO Community Exploiting Abusing broken mechanics since 2014.

Maybe @ZOS manages to get it fixed but NO ETA on that .Meanwhile more and more stamina and also magicka builds running it.

I think nobody reported it yet lol.

Buffler · April 2016

There is no "exploit" so lets start right there.

Shuffle gives a 20% chance to dodge an attack. Thats 20% per attack. It resets after every attack.

I use a combo of shuffle and double take whilst dodge rolling and people miss me......a lot, because im constantly moving fast and with shuffle making you opaque people have trouble targetting you. With those skills, plus rally and vigor I need a insane amount of stam regen and as a result my weapon damage takes a hit. Its a tough style to play but very very effective. In and out attacks, hit and run and unless your regen is 3k plus you are up *** creek!

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Buffler wrote: »

There is no "exploit" so lets start right there.

Shuffle gives a 20% chance to dodge an attack. Thats 20% per attack. It resets after every attack.

I use a combo of shuffle and double take whilst dodge rolling and people miss me......a lot, because im constantly moving fast and with shuffle making you opaque people have trouble targetting you. With those skills, plus rally and vigor I need a insane amount of stam regen and as a result my weapon damage takes a hit. Its a tough style to play but very very effective. In and out attacks, hit and run and unless your regen is 3k plus you are up *** creek!

Stop it.
Shuffle is broken.
And with the current state of Cyrodiil it's very easy to exploit it.
My guild mates tested it and it stacks after you perform certain actions.

Buffler · April 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

There is no "exploit" so lets start right there.

Shuffle gives a 20% chance to dodge an attack. Thats 20% per attack. It resets after every attack.

I use a combo of shuffle and double take whilst dodge rolling and people miss me......a lot, because im constantly moving fast and with shuffle making you opaque people have trouble targetting you. With those skills, plus rally and vigor I need a insane amount of stam regen and as a result my weapon damage takes a hit. Its a tough style to play but very very effective. In and out attacks, hit and run and unless your regen is 3k plus you are up *** creek!

Stop it.
Shuffle is broken.
And with the current state of Cyrodiil it's very easy to exploit it.
My guild mates tested it and it stacks after you perform certain actions.

Well if your guild mates tested it then it must be true.

Buffler · April 2016

I keep getting ganked by stamblades.....
Cloak is broke......must nerf nightblades.

Im still getting ganked by nightblades
Shuffle is broke.....must nerf nightblades.

L2P and counter NB's......

Tryxus · April 2016

So.... when do we get to see proof of this exploit?

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

So.... when do we get to see proof of this exploit?

Remember double mundus abusing TBS bug?
Shuffle crap is going the same way so when 90% of pvp community will be using it,then it will get fixed but no eta on that.

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Buffler wrote: »

I keep getting ganked by stamblades.....
Cloak is broke......must nerf nightblades.

Im still getting ganked by nightblades
Shuffle is broke.....must nerf nightblades.

L2P and counter NB's......

This is not a nerf NB thread it's a FIX broken Shuffle thread nothing else.

Sheezabeast · April 2016

It's really funny that people bend over backwards to defend exploits.

Jaronking · April 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

There is no "exploit" so lets start right there.

Shuffle gives a 20% chance to dodge an attack. Thats 20% per attack. It resets after every attack.

I use a combo of shuffle and double take whilst dodge rolling and people miss me......a lot, because im constantly moving fast and with shuffle making you opaque people have trouble targetting you. With those skills, plus rally and vigor I need a insane amount of stam regen and as a result my weapon damage takes a hit. Its a tough style to play but very very effective. In and out attacks, hit and run and unless your regen is 3k plus you are up *** creek!

Stop it.
Shuffle is broken.
And with the current state of Cyrodiil it's very easy to exploit it.
My guild mates tested it and it stacks after you perform certain actions.

If that was the case you or your guildmate can post how it works until then you have no proof.

Also I will admit it might be broken Wednesday I was dueling in the arena with some AD their was a group of us DC and AD stam builds who just wiped some EP who was trying to interrupt the duels and so we had shuffle still pop from the fit and we were all close to each other and a a few seconds later a EP magica NB tired to soul tether Proxy VD us and all of the DC and AD their dodged his Soul tether.it was the funniest thing I ever seen.So yes shuffle might be a little bit broken.Or the NB really sucked.

Van_0S · April 2016

susmitds wrote: »

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

This was in IC not in cyrodiil.
I was going solo and some other players as well in my faction( only 3 players vs 1 DK shuffle exploiter)

So the cat is out of the bag. It was a 1vs3, not a 1vs15. Then from your definition of this guy, he had vigor, rally, shuffle, immovable etc. So many defence buffs and heals ought to make him hard to kill. Now you are saying you USED JABS AS YOUR MAIN ATTACK. THERE IS NOT A SINGLE PROPER PvPer THAT WON'T DODGE OR STACK SHIELDS AND WILL TAKE THE HIT. JABS IS ONE OF FEW ATTACKS EVERYBODY TRIES TO AVOID AND YOU ACTUALLY NEED TO AIM IT. Plus you went to IC without any kind of CC. Rather easy battle from his side to be honest.

Forget me, my friend!!
There was a WW who used pound on that shuffle exploiter and he was not knock back at all. In fact all his WW skills couldn't hit him. I came in last to def him but it was too late for me to save him.

Valrien · April 2016

Funny how so many people complain about this but there's no video evidence of things like this.

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Buffler wrote: »

There is no "exploit" so lets start right there.

Shuffle gives a 20% chance to dodge an attack. Thats 20% per attack. It resets after every attack.

I use a combo of shuffle and double take whilst dodge rolling and people miss me......a lot, because im constantly moving fast and with shuffle making you opaque people have trouble targetting you. With those skills, plus rally and vigor I need a insane amount of stam regen and as a result my weapon damage takes a hit. Its a tough style to play but very very effective. In and out attacks, hit and run and unless your regen is 3k plus you are up *** creek!

Stop it.
Shuffle is broken.
And with the current state of Cyrodiil it's very easy to exploit it.
My guild mates tested it and it stacks after you perform certain actions.

If that was the case you or your guildmate can post how it works until then you have no proof.

Also I will admit it might be broken Wednesday I was dueling in the arena with some AD their was a group of us DC and AD stam builds who just wiped some EP who was trying to interrupt the duels and so we had shuffle still pop from the fit and we were all close to each other and a a few seconds later a EP magica NB tired to soul tether Proxy VD us and all of the DC and AD their dodged his Soul tether.it was the funniest thing I ever seen.So yes shuffle might be a little bit broken.Or the NB really sucked.

As soon as the shuffle exploit is on forum/youtube it's gonna removed and the player who made will get a temporary or in the worst case a perma ban from forum/game so in order to get it fixed the video must be sent directly to devteam and maybe it will get fixed.

ZOS_AlanG · April 2016

Hi guys, we take reports of exploits very serious, but are also quite concerned that discussing potential exploits on the forums will leader to their spread. On that note, despite some debate whether there is an exploit or it's just skill and dodging, no one shared details on how to do that - thank you!

If you have evidence of an exploit, please submit a ticket will any details you are aware of. The more details you can provide (particularly if you have video of the events) the easier it is for us to look into it. If anyone submits a detailed report and wishes to PM me the ticket number, I can check up on it.

The discussion (and debate) has been very constructive so far, but we're concerned someone will eventually post a "how to" so we are locking this thread.