1) Surge needs to be buffed massively, so that it isn't negated by Impenetrable and Resistant. It also needs to proc on Flurry, as others have mentioned.

2) There needs to be a damage spell with a Stamina morph added to one of the Sorcs skill lines. Some people want a stamina version of Frags, but I would rather have a stamina morph of Velocious Curse for timed burst damage.

3) Thundering Presence needs to be buffed. The length of both the armor buff AND the Major Expedition buff need to be greatly increased.

4) Overload needs to be fixed so that it scales properly for Stamina builds, INCLUDING penetration and all relevant CP passives.

stam sorcs need a spamable damage ability. like jabs or surprise attack

I don`t need much, just some more minor synergies with my passives and a stam dot or mabye summoned wpn with low frequency but high impact. Ideally something that also serves as an panic button defensively since there is basically none available right now.

Apart from that we have great damage, utility and mobility. Not too bad.

I think Stamina Sorc is actually very cool. I'm a little concerned about the class because of the way they created the passives. If they give a lot of stamina morphs for the skill lines (such as a bound weapon instead of crystal frags) it will mean greater weapon damage, which will cause them to absolutely out class Templar in that arena. I think this is why they are tiptoeing the issue. I would love to see them add Bound Weapons though to the class. It is not only thematic, but absolutely suits what Sorcerer was in previous TES games, which was a warrior-mage who used a few parlor tricks and summoned weapons to do his dirty work.

Stylistically though Stamina Sorcerer looks awesome. Boundless/Thundering looks great on a warrior, and actually I think Bound Armaments is pretty cool looking as well (though I wish they'd do that purple mist/flames from the series). The biggest flaw I see with Bound Armaments is the way in which you are forced to carry it over on both bars. This is a flaw with the class as a whole though, and with toggles in general. I'd personally like to see it where all passives carry over, regardless of what bar you are on. Then I'd like to see them get rid of toggles and make EVERYTHING a click power. Bound Armaments would be just fine if you have to keep clicking it, just like Templars and Rune, DK's and Spike, NB's and Blur. In a game with only 5+r actives per weapon swap, it just doesn't feel very fun if 3/4 of your bar is toggles. I think pets would show up a lot more on Sorc bars if they could be summoned on the back/defensive bar, and carried over across bars. Would this change the balance of things for the class? Probably, but I think that play-style sounds a bit more fun, and they could balance the class toward something more fun. Stamina Sorcerers complain because their bars are locked up with so many toggles they don't have a lot of freedom in choice. If they lowered their +weapon/spell damage to something flat like Bal. Warrior, and got rid of the whole notion of toggles, I think that would be a good start. Create a Bound Weapon morph on something, and they'd be golden (Maybe an alternate to Velocious Curse or Crystal Frags).

I have a stam sorc and yes he is very weak, but I also have a magicka dk which is also very weak. I also hate the idea of adding stamina instant attacks to both the classes. IMO if you want a class attack you should spec magicka and use your actual weapons for damage, after all that is what a stam spec is isnt it?

ZoS should add a new help tip for new players that clearly advices them to not build a stamsorc. It should in fact be the only tip on every loading screen :^)

They are very good in PVE, the only problem for PvP they have no efficient debuff skills.

Cryptical wrote: »

I think that the stamina-focused sorcerer is the poster model for "just because it can be created does not mean the developers must make it capable in all aspects."

Classes have strengths... And weaknesses. If you sign on to a sorcerer, you are signing on to having strength in magic, AND to having a weakness in stamina. It's called min-maxing. Go for the max in category A and there will be the corresponding min in category B.

You don't see culinary masters crying over being less capable at football, but there are examples of players of sorcerers QQ over being less capable at sword swinging.[/quote/]

Actually in other elder scrolls a great many sorcerers are more weapon welding warriors that augment they're melee skills with magic enhancements. Also if you look around the game you'll see various mobs and bosses that use sorcerer skills and two handed swords.

Either way I'm happy with my stam sorc, a little tweak here and there would be nice but that can be said of all classes.

Cryptical wrote: »

I think that the stamina-focused sorcerer is the poster model for "just because it can be created does not mean the developers must make it capable in all aspects."

Classes have strengths... And weaknesses. If you sign on to a sorcerer, you are signing on to having strength in magic, AND to having a weakness in stamina. It's called min-maxing. Go for the max in category A and there will be the corresponding min in category B.

You don't see culinary masters crying over being less capable at football, but there are examples of players of sorcerers QQ over being less capable at sword swinging.

Classic Sorcerer lore for ESO paints them as heavy armor wearing badasses that use magic to enhance their melee prowess. Sorcerers in Elder Scrolls are not normal fantasy tropes, this is unique lore.

Even though I made this thread, I too have a suggestion for stamsorc. Replace the bonus heavy attack damage on bound armaments, and replace it with an effect in which it reflects 5% (at rank 4 of the ability, Starting at 1%) of damage taken back to the attacker as long as it is toggled, but also reduce incoming healing (healing done to yourself, but not just by yourself) by 5%. I feel this is a good change because it makes having Bound Armaments on both bars ACTUALLY useful, and increasing DPS while sacrificing survivability.

Stam Sorcs are fine, the sorc class abilities synergize really well with stamina sorcs. Storm Warriors are more weapon ability driven but that doesn't mean that crit surge, boundless storm, dark exchange, bound armaments, and ball of light can't be used effectively by StamSorcs. I know I'm going to get flamed but StamSorcs are in a better position than Stamplars.

He is playing Paragon.

hu, i got mentioned here

stamsorc need a slight buff, all weapon abilities hit a bit harder than on other classes. But apart from this, nothing helps with dpsing. You can pull good numbers, but other stamclasses will outdps you