What are your thoughts on the DB notes that were just released?

DatNutrient · April 2016

Curious to see everyone's thoughts.

To me this is ZOS not listening to players again and just doing whatever comes to mind.

Scaling sanctum to V16 is cool, but it needed to happen two patches ago, and it's literally just a modification to the game they already have (in typical ZOS style)

Is there any NEW and CHALLENGING content that required creativity this patch (New 4 mans, trials, etc) nope. Just the same old stuff but scaled.

I will be unsubbing and.hoping for a good patch next year.

WalkingLegacy · April 2016

Underwhelmed

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/247155/class-balance-and-bug-fixes-are-not-dlc-features#latest

Edit:

I will say I appreciate the revisit of old content (Sanctum) and some Imperial City love though. (I hope they can solve the gank playstyle this area promotes though)

THEDKEXPERIENCE · April 2016

Excited

Seriously? Your main complaint is that they changed something later than you wanted them to?

There are a bunch of things on the list that people have been begging for like the do not deconstruct button. Sounds to me like they are listening to the fan base.

Tholian1 · April 2016

Excited

I will keep subscribing for the crafting bags that will be added. This patch has a lot of great stuff in it.

wayfarerx · April 2016

Neither

There are certain parts I am super excited about: poisons, crafting bags, VR removal, LFG improvements, etc. However I am really disappointed that there is no new group PvE content. In IC we got new 4-man dungeons, in Wrothgar we got a new solo trial, in TG we got a new 12-man trial... but in DB we get nothing. Scaling SO is good, but I was really hoping for new 4-man content, even just vet versions of some of the non-vet dungeons we already have.

DatNutrient · April 2016

Underwhelmed

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Seriously? Your main complaint is that they changed something later than you wanted them to?

There are a bunch of things on the list that people have been begging for like the do not deconstruct button. Sounds to me like they are listening to the fan base.

My complaint is that ZOS likes to scale things and call it new. If they make something new it's pretty much one thing per patch thats relevant.

I bet you like the Thieves Guild passives too.

nine9six · April 2016

Neither

Some things I look forward to. Other things I feel as though I'm getting my hopes up. Again.

FLuFFyxMuFFiN · April 2016

Excited

Great news to wake up to!

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · April 2016

Excited

Sounds like fun to me. Similar to TG in you will go to different areas you never visited in a long time.

DatNutrient · April 2016

Underwhelmed

nine9six wrote: »

Some things I look forward to. Other things I feel as though I'm getting my hopes up. Again.

Mmhmm. Bug fixes are not a DLC.

Tell me, what content are we downloading? +2 to the level.of the sanctum mobs, some poisons, more Motifs (so we can look good while we sit bored in town) annnnnd.... A new area with a new quest line..

DatNutrient · April 2016

Underwhelmed

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/247155/class-balance-and-bug-fixes-are-not-dlc-features#latest

Let's go karate in the garage

Lord_Wrath · April 2016

Neither

After TG im expecting more boring cheesy npcs, more crappy rewards, more quest marker hunting.

Shadesofkin · April 2016

Neither

Some things I am looking forward to, but I've never liked the Dark Brotherhood and none of my characters have joined them, so until I see something that reminds me of the Knights of the Nine I'm going to just be content with seeing things that I think would be "good" for the game rather than things that get me all hopping up and down.

Averya_Teira · April 2016

Underwhelmed

DatNutrient wrote: »

nine9six wrote: »

Some things I look forward to. Other things I feel as though I'm getting my hopes up. Again.

Mmhmm. Bug fixes are not a DLC.

Tell me, what content are we downloading? +2 to the level.of the sanctum mobs, some poisons, more Motifs (so we can look good while we sit bored in town) annnnnd.... A new area with a new quest line..

This. There is no actual new content except few hours of quests (probably 6-10 tops) in this DLC. If this is it, it better be 1000 crowns lol.

Also... @ZOS_GinaBruno why ONLY sanctum lol ? You want us to pay for other DLCs for AA and Hel Ra ? Adding SO to DB, AA to the next DLC and Hel Ra to the third calling it new content lol ? And then what? Fourth DLC will have "scaling Maw to CP 220" as new content ?

VDoom1 · April 2016

Excited

Im not a big fan of running around being an assassin. In Oblivion and Skyrim I always did that last when I had nothing else left to do. So generally Im not that excited over the fact one will be able to join the Dark Brotherhood. But I am excited about Anvil and Kvatch. Though I wonder if that will include Skingrad but it just wasnt mentioned. I hope so. Cyrodiil was and will always be my favorite part of Tamriel. I dont know how many times Ive looked at the map of Cyrodiil and been like "this is not the complete map....". But I just hope that one will not have to purchase the Dark Brotherhood in order to get access to any new cities in an already unlocked region.

The only thing Im not liking is the removal of Veteran Ranks. Sure some may be jumping of joy over that, Im not. Now everyone is just asking how this will effect leveling, gear, veteran dungeons, enemies etc etc. The only thing I dont like about veteran ranks is how much XP is required to level up. But other then that Im fine with it. It seems like once the veteran system is gone there will just be champion points, and 50 will be the max level. I dont see how champion points can be somehow made into a sort of leveling system. But oh well I guess we will just have to wait and see.

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · April 2016

Excited

I'm excited for this. However, it does appear to be another small DLC similar to TG. Although anyone can be an assassin, this will be two DLC's in a row that are best played by NIghtblades.

Morimizo · April 2016

Excited

I always preferred the Morag Tong to Dark Brotherhood in terms of lore, but I can't deny that it's been great fun playing the questlines of DB in Oblivion and Skyrim. Overall the updates sound appealing, and I look forward to roaming around Anvil Lighthouse and shiny, unbroken Kvatch.

lolo_01b16_ESO · April 2016

Neither

Base game patch sounds good, but the dlc itself? Well, not really a lot of reasons to get it. No pvp arena, no new dungeons, no trial, no other form of group content.

Tholian1 · April 2016

Excited

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I'm excited for this. However, it does appear to be another small DLC similar to TG. Although anyone can be an assassin, this will be two DLC's in a row that are best played by NIghtblades.

How so? Thieves Guild required a lot of sneaking which anyone can do. NB cloak is useless with the blue detection rings. I suspect they will do something similar with DB.

Svalinn · April 2016

Excited

DatNutrient wrote: »

Scaling sanctum to V16 is coo

Perhaps you missed the part where is said that there will not be vet ranks anymore?

TX12001rwb17_ESO · April 2016

Excited

Enemy-of-Coldharbour wrote: »

I'm excited for this. However, it does appear to be another small DLC similar to TG. Although anyone can be an assassin, this will be two DLC's in a row that are best played by NIghtblades.

Your joking right? this will contain 2 Cities and the gold coast is much larger then Hew's Bane.

Kalante · April 2016

Neither

*** your four man trials. i want to see the other half of the game to work properly, you know... CYRODIIL?

Evergnar · April 2016

Neither

Can't really say being how most of it is vague. The removal of vet levels, extra character slots, improvements to base game, and crafting bags for eso+ memebers are all positives but it really depends on how they are implemented.

I don't expect much from DB dlc itself based on what we saw from Thieves Guild dlc. That's not to say it won't be good just a very small dlc.

I'm more apprehensive than anything else about DB update. The removal of vet levels along with all these other changes combined will be the biggest change ESO has seen imo.

Minalan · April 2016

Underwhelmed

I for one welcome our new vampire stamblade masters!

craybest · April 2016

Sad that there is no appearance changer announced. the rest looks pretty nice, but I'm new to the game so I don't really understand all of it.

Mojmir · April 2016

Neither

Too vague, I see good and bad,potentially the bad will be exploited. Be careful what you wish for,read between the lines.

waterfairy · April 2016

Where are the notes?

AntMan100673 · April 2016

VDoom1 wrote: »

Im not a big fan of running around being an assassin. In Oblivion and Skyrim I always did that last when I had nothing else left to do. So generally Im not that excited over the fact one will be able to join the Dark Brotherhood. But I am excited about Anvil and Kvatch. Though I wonder if that will include Skingrad but it just wasnt mentioned. I hope so. Cyrodiil was and will always be my favorite part of Tamriel. I dont know how many times Ive looked at the map of Cyrodiil and been like "this is not the complete map....". But I just hope that one will not have to purchase the Dark Brotherhood in order to get access to any new cities in an already unlocked region.

The only thing Im not liking is the removal of Veteran Ranks. Sure some may be jumping of joy over that, Im not. Now everyone is just asking how this will effect leveling, gear, veteran dungeons, enemies etc etc. The only thing I dont like about veteran ranks is how much XP is required to level up. But other then that Im fine with it. It seems like once the veteran system is gone there will just be champion points, and 50 will be the max level. I dont see how champion points can be somehow made into a sort of leveling system. But oh well I guess we will just have to wait and see.

I'm thinking the cp levelling will work along the lines of rather than having vr1, vr2 gear etc you'll have cp0-30, cp 31-60 gear etc and they'll use the same mats as at present. As cp's are account wide if you want to create a new character you'd only need to level them to 50 and then you'd be able to use the same level gear as any other characters you've already got to 50 based on the number of cp's you have. I've had the game since launch on console, I only have 1 character (excluding a couple of level 3 alts) and haven't reached vr16 yet as I don't have that much time to play each week (I'm vr15 so I'm finally close!) I could never see myself grinding another character to vr16 however I could see myself getting another character/s to 50 so I think the removal of vet ranks is a great idea

Moonscythe · April 2016

Excited

On balance there was more to like than not for me; but, I never play DB so that doesn't get me excited. I would like to revisit Anvil; it was my preferred home in Oblivion. I'm not sure it is enough to make me sub though. I am very disappointed by the crafting bag. I would almost prefer that it come with a Hearthfire-like build-a-home DLC. It seems a bit greedy to have to rent space I should have available another way.

krees28b14_ESO · April 2016

Excited

Vigarr wrote: »

Where are the notes?

click on the blue box at the top of the forum boards that says "Sneak Peak". No official notes yet.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

Excited

They aren't giving me everything I want with this patch, but they're adding a lot of things I've wanted for a long time. As someone who has always played an Alchemist in TES games I'm happy to see that skill line get some love finally. DB needed to get released. I just hope we can join other factions in the future, like House Telvanni, Imperial Legion, Dawnguard, The Iron Wheel, etc. The game really needs to offer some sort of heroic knightly order at the very least to countermand the lack of heroic choices, or appearance of choices. I'm really hopeful they still intend to improve Heavy Armor and Tanking, although it wasn't listed in their bullet points which made me a little sad. Bag space: How can you not be happy about this? More character slots: I will be happy to make a couple more builds that I've been wanting to muck with for a long time, and it'll allow me to have a few fresh Blackwater toons. I loved TG and I'm going to love playing hitman on my lizard.

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