When will healers be able to mount their horse in Cyrodiil?

Inarre · April 2016

I am so tired of running behind my raid, watching everyone race off into the distance to the next keep on mounts while myself and the other healer trots behind on foot waiting to get ganked because we are stuck "in battle". I get the impression this is caused by active HOTs, but I have been stuck in "battle" and running after my raid for far longer than my HOTs would be able to tick.

Is there any way to get this to break? Any secret I'm unaware of? OR can we fix this?

Wollust · April 2016

My stam characters have the same issue and I think Rally is causing it.

But hey, we've had that for so long, it will never be fixed.

Inarre · April 2016

Wollust wrote: »

My stam characters have the same issue and I think Rally is causing it.

But hey, we've had that for so long, it will never be fixed.

Hmm good point I didnt even think that rally users would have the same issue.

GG over time effects. GG.

Divinius · April 2016

Holy crap, is this still a thing?

I never PvP, so I hadn't thought it in a long time, but I remember this being an issue like since launch.

Still haven't fixed it, huh? Sad.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · April 2016

i remember where Gina Bruno said somewhere in a post that this was intended, which in my opinion is straight total BS, I am one of those that thinks it should be changed, its on my signature under fixes that ZOS should do

Inarre · April 2016

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

i remember where Gina Bruno said somewhere in a post that this was intended, which in my opinion is straight total BS, I am one of those that thinks it should be changed, its on my signature under fixes that ZOS should do

... You have gotta be kidding me. It's intended to make healers chase after their group?

Really Zos

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

Asherons_Call · April 2016

It's not just a healer thing. My sorc is unable to mount quite often and gets stuck running on foot behind the group

Acharnor · April 2016

I am a healer and I never had the faintest clue why I could not mount my horse, bear guar, senche. Of pet peeves - this is a big one. LOL. Once the spell is cast you should be able to mount. You are not in combat! Interesting to heat this might be what causes that situation.

clayandaudrey_ESO · April 2016

If you guys ask for this enough we will get a patch note like this...

Cyrodiil:

Fixed an issue where players could mount by taking the ability to mount away while in Cyrodiil.

bedlom · April 2016

Just press the mount button ; )

TequilaFire · April 2016

The whole can't mount while in combat is dumb in the first place.
Can't fight on mounts and if you run you can still be ganked off your mount.

Hymzir · April 2016

Sometimes I have to go into stealth, come out of stealth and go back to stealth before the game finally decides that I am no longer in combat. And I don't even cast HoTs anymore. No idea what determines whether you are in combat or not. Sometimes I count how many seconds it takes for the game to let me mount after all enemies are dead and most of my side has already ridden off to the distance - My best is over a minute. The most stupid occurrence is when I die, and then respawn, run out of the keep and try to hop on my horse to get back into the action, only to have the game refuse to let me mount since I am still in combat... Just another example of ZOS fail. It's been in the game since launch and ZOS has never done anything about it or even said that they were "looking into it." I don't think they know what causes it either, and have even less clue as to how to fix it.

UltimaJoe777 · April 2016

Inarre wrote: »

When will healers be able to mount their horse in Cyrodiil?

When they fix the combat indicator, assuming it isn't intended as is.

DaveMoeDee · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

I suppose the problems is potentially trolling people by spamming heals or buffs so no one can mount.

Inarre · April 2016

Hymzir wrote: »

Sometimes I have to go into stealth, come out of stealth and go back to stealth before the game finally decides that I am no longer in combat.

Eh, I've tried it all, Crouching, roll dodging, taking a potion. Nothing helps. The only thing that helps is using breath of life as your only heal and we know ZOS's stand on that!

Love the rest of your experiences. I, too, have had those same problems

tinythinker · April 2016

It isn't just HoTs. If you heal, even something that is an instant heal with no linger effect, you are placed "in combat" for a good while, so you have to count down from the last time you did any heal to any player.

nine9six · April 2016

I have to put new batteries in my shoes every day because of all the running I have to do in Lolodiil. The price I pay...

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

I suppose the problems is potentially trolling people by spamming heals or buffs so no one can mount.

Not at all....its some can and some cant instead of a hard rule that applies to all.
It u cast...to troll, you too should be "in-combat" as well as those who have the effects.

Simple and clean.

Nyteshade · April 2016

I've even been stuck in combat for a good while after respawning on my healplar. Death doesn't even fix it.

Danksta · April 2016

It happened to me this weekend on my stamblade... in PvE land.

Pomaikai · April 2016

tinythinker wrote: »

It isn't just HoTs. If you heal, even something that is an instant heal with no linger effect, you are placed "in combat" for a good while, so you have to count down from the last time you did any heal to any player.

Then the players we heal should have to wait just a long. Same goes for players whom we have attacked. If my timer is still running, then we should be combat timer twins linked by an invisible thread. If you're out, them I'm out, and vice versa.

The same should be true in PVE as well. If the mob is dead, then any combat timers associated with that mob should die with it. I'm sick of losing out on crafting nodes because the game won't let me loot them after killing all the mobs guarding it!

dem0n1k · April 2016

It's not just healers, it's everyone. The worst is when you are protecting a scroll runner & you kill the enemy that was attacking the scroll runner... but then can't remount & mounted enemy players sail past you intent on stopping the scroll runner while you plod along on foot mashing the 'mount' key

I totally agree with the PVE issue of resource nodes not being available for harvest just because you killed a mob that was nearby. That can be so frustrating when you lose the node due to the combat timer.

ContraTempo · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

IMO there should be a map-able "cleanse" function you can activate that will end ALL your outgoing DOTs, HOTs, and any incoming positive effects.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

Wollust wrote: »

My stam characters have the same issue and I think Rally is causing it.

But hey, we've had that for so long, it will never be fixed.

I think I get the same issue with Vigor.

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

i remember where Gina Bruno said somewhere in a post that this was intended, which in my opinion is straight total BS, I am one of those that thinks it should be changed, its on my signature under fixes that ZOS should do

I agree. It is hard to believe that they intend for you to run for 2 minutes or more after all effects have expired before you can hop on your horse/guar/camel/senche.

ks888 · April 2016

Nevaaa

dodgehopper_ESO · April 2016

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

I suppose the problems is potentially trolling people by spamming heals or buffs so no one can mount.

Not at all....its some can and some cant instead of a hard rule that applies to all.
It u cast...to troll, you too should be "in-combat" as well as those who have the effects.

Simple and clean.

I'll be honest I don't think it makes sense that combat slows you down. This is a nuisance that a lot of MMO's put on us, and it isn't even logical. I could see it reasonable to make it take longer to call your horse, or to be interruptible (which it is), but I don't really understand being put in permanent longterm molasses mode while your team runs from one keep to the next before you are released.

LBxFinalDeath · April 2016

Not sure.

Maybe when they stop beating the tar out of a single key.

I mean...pretty sure the game doesn't want them breath of life spamming while on horseback, you gotta choose one or the other.

Duiwel · April 2016

clayandaudrey_ESO wrote: »

If you guys ask for this enough we will get a patch note like this...

Cyrodiil:

Fixed an issue where players could mount by taking the ability to mount away while in Cyrodiil.

I laughed way more than I should have

NewBlacksmurf · April 2016

ContraTempo wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Not sure of the context the original response was understood but my two cents....

The spell that was cast or effect lingers so the caster is still "in-combat"
-Fine

The actual issue or problem that needs to be fixed is the players receiving the effect should also stay "in-combat" which is the actual problem. I do agree as a healer..which i am on my main and two alts. that if I cast an effect, I should be considered in combat until that heal, shield, dmg, etc effect ends.

IMO there should be a map-able "cleanse" function you can activate that will end ALL your outgoing DOTs, HOTs, and any incoming positive effects.

If so that should be the "mount" command/button