Being a vamp worth it?

ForlornBeliever · April 2016

I've been thinking about tying to make my Dark Elf character into a vamp since he already gets some flame resistance from passives, but a vamp player I was grouped up with said he had all flame resist glyphs on his armor with all 3 points in the passive and still got wiped out by fire based attacks. Do the skills in the vampire line compensate for the extra damage or is it not worth being one?

DannyLV702 · April 2016

Fire is not a problem at ALL. The only time you'll get screwed by being a vampire, is in pvp when you get one shotted by camo Hunter or dawnbreaker.

Prabooo · April 2016

answer: NO

leepalmer95 · April 2016

Well being a vamp does make you weaker to fire even if you put more into elemental defender.

If you put 48 and get 15% your still going to take 25% more dmg than if you wasn't a vamp. Because with 15% you take 10% more dmg from fire skills and without it you'd take 15% less dmg.

The problems with vamp is the camo hunter/ dawnbreaker.

If someone hits you from stealth with camo, you die.
If a stamina templar has camo on and jabs you, it's going to hurt...

If some magicka build hits you with a dawnbreaker, it's going to hit you for like 12k-20k. As well as knock you down then the inital dmg dmg will be 3-4k. You die.

All this for using bats basically.

Kelces · April 2016

I heard one of my guild members talk about not wanting to play a vampire specifically in PvE. Maybe it's because of certain dungeons, where you take the most damage from fire attacks. This could certainly become an issue.

Currently PvP is definitely more challenging for a vampire, than it was months ago. That doesn't mean, it can't be fun or even advantageous in some situations, especially if you are good at avoiding fire. Nobody can say for sure, if it is really worth it or not, there are many different opinions. The speed bonus while sneaking and faster entering stealth at night for example speaks for it - if that's your specialty, this might prove very useful.

Many simply say "NO", because there were some nerfs in the past, but that's no real argument against it. Many factors decide, if it's good for someone or not. So if you are able to get a free bite and can afford it to cure it afterwards, it is absolutely worth a try.

DephlaterMouse · April 2016

The passive are great especially if you keep at least 1 vampire ability on your bar. Once you hit level 10 you get things like 33% less damage (from all attacks) when you fall below 50% health.

Plus in PVP as a nightblade you can DOT stack someone, and stealth and feed on them real quick (unbreak-free able stun for 3 seconds then 4 second stun with passives). It's also fun to do this and watch your friends kill the poor sap in the 3 seconds he's unable to defend himself. Great against shield stackers, nightblades, and sorcerers that like to use surge to escape.

RaXZon · April 2016

Being a Dunmer helps alot because of their fire resistance passive.

But if it's worth it, I don't know. It all depends on your play style.

Volkodav · April 2016

I tried being a Vamp,but hated it so I went and got the cure. I tried too.The only fun I had was when I did the first quest to become a Vamp.The dungeon was great.After that,I couldnt see any plus to being one,really.

Alorier · April 2016

I've been vamp on 2 of my characters dropped it on both , the best decision I've made on here if your running dungeons there's too many that are fire based and as for PvP all I say is dawnbreaker

eldermpsmithrwb17_ESO · April 2016

I run as a vamp on my Dunmer DK, i do not notice the damage difference in PvE, i do like the little extra mag regen by slotting on skill on the bar, it is just a little bit more than slotting a Mages guild skill for me.

I really like it on my Kahjit Magika NB, all the stealth passives really help with TG, and there is an escape method too with one of the skills.

sluice · April 2016

You will get a lot of NO.
But I love being a Vamp because of the stealth speed. It suits my playstyle in pvp.

If you are a nightblade, it stacks with double take and conceiled weapon.

Methadone_Man · April 2016

I hated being a Vampire, mostly for the lack of health regeneration. I though most of the Vampire skills were underwhelming. I didn't like the fact that I could never turn off Vampirism. This is why Lycanthropy is superior. The only downsides are when you are a werewolf. Plus the 15% stamina regen when the ultimate is slotted is nice. But, of course, Werewolves work better on a stamina character and Vampires are more for magica characters.

Shardaxx · April 2016

I think it depends on your class, for nightblade I really like it for the faster sneaking and the reduced damage when low on health, bat swarm is good too. Dark elf fire resistance off-sets the extra fire damage and if you put some points in elemental defender, its not a problem at all.

leepalmer95 · April 2016

People do know the dark elf passive gives you like 3% reduction right? It's pretty useless.

Honestly with the fact clouding is broken at the moment making devouring the only bat swarm choice i can only see vamp being useful for mag dk's and no other class.

Nb's don't really need it, magicka ones at least as they have better ult's and can move faster by cloaking with concealed, if built right they'll regain more magicka than they use with cloak anyway.

Templars it's nice but unnecessary, mist form isn't that great for mobility anymore so really it's useful for bats in which the trade off isn't worth it, just use meteor or something.

Dk's, stamina no, magicka yeah it works very well with the blocking tanks, still leaves them open to dawnbreaker, camo hunter etc... though and against another mag dk that isn't a vamp leaves them at a disadvantage to be honest.

Vamp is useless for sorc.

ForlornBeliever · April 2016

Based on the overwhelming evidence, I'd say no is definitely the answer. Thank you.

Van_0S · April 2016

Worth for a magiNB but very risky.

RoyalPink06 · April 2016

You already have your answer, but I just wanna offer my 2 cents as well. I put vampirism on my magicka Templar, simply because I knew fire was going to be a problem and I figured I could heal myself through it. I didn't intend to keep it, I just wanted to unlock the colours. I got the bite naturally, so thankfully didn't have to pay for it. I maxed it in a day or so of grinding, and decided to keep it for a bit to see how it played out. I hated having to constantly find npc's to feed on, that was a huuuge pain. And the abilities were no good to me, so I cured it. Since then, a few times I've also been called into a group to replace a player who was a vampire and couldn't get through the dungeon because of the fire. So definitely not gonna help you in those dungeons.

So ya, vampirism is a nightmare to work with. Also, the colours? Not worth the effort - I've never even used 'em.

Happy adventuring

Ni7eWa7ch · April 2016

There's workarounds with vamp , you already took dunmer rest you can get health regen with especially hard armor.
I have a dunmer mag DK and wear just one piece HA with 1 MA and rest light for the undaunted passives works great
for fire damage CP points and enchants but you 'll probably sacrifice damage or whatever else
Not to forget you get a powerfull self heal ability and the ultimate is morphable to heal you as well

Ni7eWa7ch · April 2016

prepare to get an ugly face as well ..

Gulkrim-mur · April 2016

ForlornBeliever wrote: »

I've been thinking about tying to make my Dark Elf character into a vamp since he already gets some flame resistance from passives, but a vamp player I was grouped up with said he had all flame resist glyphs on his armor with all 3 points in the passive and still got wiped out by fire based attacks. Do the skills in the vampire line compensate for the extra damage or is it not worth being one?

Doing absolutely fine. The 25% more isntl all to harsh and im not even dark elf. I suggest trying to get a free bite or at least a chea one dont buy with crown cuz u can always cure it later. But yes its basically only for bats.

Shardaxx · April 2016

leepalmer95 wrote: »

People do know the dark elf passive gives you like 3% reduction right? It's pretty useless.

It's not a percentage its a value of about 2000, hardly useless.

failkiwib16_ESO · April 2016

Shardaxx wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

People do know the dark elf passive gives you like 3% reduction right? It's pretty useless.

It's not a percentage its a value of about 2000, hardly useless.

Compared to the amount of fire damage you take, it is useless

RebornV3x · April 2016

If your manly a PVE player then NO to being a vamp almost every Dungeon has lots of fire so its just a pain but for PVP everyone seems to be using that Cloud Swarm, proxy det with Viscous death build so it might be worth it then.

pod88kk · April 2016

RebornV3x wrote: »

If your manly a PVE player then NO to being a vamp almost every Dungeon has lots of fire so its just a pain but for PVP everyone seems to be using that Cloud Swarm, proxy det with Viscous death build so it might be worth it then.

That's my build anyway, get the timing right with that and a deep breath..... Good night groups