http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Spectre's+Eye+Set

This is probably the only decent 8-trait tanking set. Built for a magicka Tank. However the dodge chance downtime makes it inferior to Hist Bark. A small buff to the 5pc bonus would make this set pretty darn great for tanking.

I have a Templar Imperial V16 with engine gardian set x2 and Hist ( all enchant vigor)......Jewellery and other : Endurence, agility....Attibute = Vitaliy and magicka

I don't have 9 trait in heavy armor crafing.

dunmer-nb, 40k magica, pledge-tank:

2engine, 2bloodspawn, 1kena/1bloodspawn, 2Malubeth, 2Nerieneth
(prefer 2 engine)

4elfbane
3thorugs all max magica
5HA-1MA-1LA

3willpower: 1healthy, 2robust / 2spellcost-reduction, 1spell-dmg

2x S&B

bar1: funnel health, sap essence, impale, magica taunt, inner light, soul harvest
bar2: siphoning strikes, healing path, blur, proxy, inner light, agressive warhorn

~stats:
42k magica 25k armor 50% crit
21k hp 30k spell-resistance 760 magica-reg
13k stamina 2600 spell-dmg 760 stamina-reg

all 64 attribute points into magica
mundus: thief
75pts reduced blockcost, all other cp's like a mag-blade dps

flex:
inner light - defensive posture (just for the passive, not use stamina skills on a magi-tank)
blur/proxy - mark target, absorb magic, mystic orbs, relentless fokus.
soul harvest - veil, shooting star, soul tether

howto:
buff up ...proxy, blur, siphonings. place path (aoe-aggro), taunt melees and pull into ranges.
sapspam, impale, win.

easy and fun to play, good on resources, up to 10k single target, 40k aoe-dps and 17k hps.
21k hp is low. -but you dont really need more in all the pledges, including vICP/vWGT
crafted potions are not needed. just go with green/blue dropped ones.
not go SO/MoL and such with this build for obvious reasons.
your taunt will crit up to 8k. ...so watch out, if you go for a gold key where you need to keep some adds alive.
try bogdan and healing orbs, if you run with 3 dps

have fun.

Ariisen wrote: »

it will only get you used to free stam\magicka\health wich won't happen when you start running serious content.

Can you explain this more clearly ? Why it won't happen in endgame content ? Are we using skills fewer times as it gets more serious , so it doesn't proc ? I clearly missed something about your idea .

Ariisen wrote: »

Also with the changes to Champion Points you don't really need Armor Master or Hist Bark anymore, you can actually use sets that give you more sustain and\or ultimate regen (if you're a DK that means both.)

Also about this , I think you are talking about Heavy Armor Focus . So , it gives 5120 ( correct me if I am wrong ) Physical Resist if you spend 100 points which means 8% physical damage mitigation . On the other hand , Hardy gives you a solid percentage of physical mitigation . Hardy will give you 8% if you spend 20 points into it . Why spend points into HA focus while you can get much more physical mitigation from Hardy ? If you do this , you will be tanky of course , but there is still resistances you can get higher with items such as Armour Master . Even more tanky . If I mistaken your point , please explain .

Your arguments are solid . Agreed on some parts like Molag Kena fight .

My playstyle is like this : Sustain yourself without depending on anything and be really tanky . This way I don't need much healing and shards so healers can support the group much more than they used to . So it is a win-win situation for everyone .

If you wanna be a support tank , you should go with Powerful Assault . Even in trials Medium Armor works ( except MoL ) very well as a tank . 5 Powerful Assault , 2 Blood Spawn , 3 Lunar Bastion and Agility 1h/s . Here is your support tank .

6% chance of Blood Spawn is very low ( yes I used it ) . It will give you 150 Ultimate if you are really really lucky which won't happen at all ( assuming we are tanking a boss ) . Let's say we have 2 healers (most groups go with 3 healer) and tank using Warhorn . I used mine , first healer used , second healer used . 1 and a half minute . I can gather much more than 250 in that time . As a DK tank , light attack gives 3 ultimate per second , Heroic Slash gives 2 Ultimate per 3 seconds , Mountain Blessing gives 3 Ultimate per 6 seconds . Here is the math : 60x3 from light attack + 2x20 from heroic slash + 10x3 from mountain blessing = 250 ultimate .
This is the ultimate I gain in a minute . Which means I can gather 375 Ultimate in 1 and a half minute . I didn't even count other little resources . Asking again , do I really need Blood Spawn's little bit of ultimate to get my Warhorn ready ?

Note : About light attack , you can animation cancel it with block between boss attacks . It is very easy to do . You can still permablock throwing little light attacks in between .

For the record, Blood Spawn isn't good if you are already passively at hardcap resists. I also wouldn't trust it to readily proc if you are using it for the full resistances it can provide, the low proc chance means you can more readily be caught with your pants down and missing alot of defense.

I agree that the Engine Guardian can hurt more than help in Lord Warden, and sometimes dies far too fast on Molag Kena, so my vote would be Mephala's Set for more DPS, or Lord Warden's set for the group defense buff.

Hist Bark is still good for most builds because the Major Evasion helps stamina sustain so you can literally tank in red for days if you have to, without potions.

But yeah, thread is a little off topic, but it is great that the discussions remained civil. Thanks for contributing!

Remember, you should assume you will NOT get spear shards, so you should be able to sustain without it. Consider them a bonus, it is only worth factoring them in for min-maxed pre-made raid groups.

I'm a fan of the 5/1/1 5pc. Tavas Favor Set/2pc. Blood Spawn 2 piece Agility/3 Pieces of Endurance I can rock Aggressive Warhorn 90% of the fight

Additional tips to supplement the OP (I only skimmed through other comments, some duplicity is likely):
1. Block Mitigation > Armor/Spell Resist > Mitigation Buffs (racials) > Mitigation Debuffs (skills, i.e. Minor Maim)
2. Major Ward/Resolve is not necessary for those who have sufficient block mitigation. Armor/Spell resist is a secondary mitigation stat, in that it's really not that important if you're blocking. This stat is more important in pvp than pve, primarily due to the wide use of CC that forces you to drop block (i.e. fear)
3. No matter how much damage you crank out as a tank, it will never amount to what a dps can do. As such, your choice of skills and ultimates should typically coincide with what benefits your group the most. Aggressive War Horn is currently BiS ultimate for almost all tanking setups, with other ultimates being situational.
4. Healing received is not a wasted stat. You should have a few % at least from gear or CP.
5. Some situations require the tank to self-sustain (like Hiath in vDSA). In situations like these, it's important to make use of buffs you would not normally sustain, such as Major Mending.
6. Damage shields have no mitigation table and cannot be crit. For as long as your damage shield is active, your Armor/Spell resistance is irrelevant. Be careful when using something like Annulment, where only spell resist is irrelevant while it's active.
7. Tanks should run buffs that others would prefer not to. For example, a magicka DK dps should not be expected to run Igneous Weapons if the tank is a DK and can run it. The dps should have something else that lends more to their damage potential, or sustain (i.e. ele drain instead of igneous, no need to have your dps running both).
8. Experienced tanks will not require a healer in most situations. The more experience you get as a tank, the easier it will be for you to reduce the need for your healer to constantly monitor your status. The healer is going to be able to off-dps far more effectively than you will as a tank, so if anyone is going to off-dps, it should be the healer. This varies with group cohesion and experience.
9. Major Fracture / Major Breach should be active on the primary target at all times. Using Inner Fire is fine, but if your dps is targeting the boss, you need to apply Fracture/Breach. This usually means getting into melee range and using Pierce Armor instead. Ranged fights do not alleviate the need for these debuffs.
10. Be mindful of your melee dps. Fights that involve a lot of proximity threats, like the Adjudicator in vWGT for example, will be substantially more fluid and efficient if you, as the tank, are mindful of where your melee dps are able to stand. Sometimes just taking 2-3 steps to the left or right is enough to ensure than your melee dps can crank out their full damage potential.

I wonder what has changed in this last update.