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Sell Gold Mats for Tel Var Stones.

Mashille
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Sell Gold Improvement Materials for Tel Var stones, would give incentive to Imperial City.

Maybe make them 10,000 per mat?
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  • DinOwned
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    That would be awesome. "Make Imperial City Great Again!"
  • Alorier
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    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
  • Junkogen
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    That doesn't make any sense at all. How is it pay to win if you can get mats anywhere? I don't understand your gripe. Besides you could always pay gold to buy the mats the IC players got.
    Edited by Junkogen on April 11, 2016 1:44PM
  • magnusthorek
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    It wouldn't be a P2W because the concept of P2W is pay with real money to win. Tel Var Stones are freely given for those willing to adventure in the sewers.

    Of course, people would have to buy the DLC, but since now VR16 runestones and materials drop in larger abundance thanks to the node scaling change and the upgrade materials are still tied to the bad RNG, the idea is very valid.
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  • Taonnor
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    I think it is a graet idea. But. The hole concept of IC is not working as DLC i think. So the best "gameside" decision in my eyes is to make IC free & gated access before you get these changes online.
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  • Omg_Pwned
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    I'm pretty sure collecting resource nodes and have a bit luck with refining gives you a lot more gold upgrade items then you would get from stone farming...
  • Brrrofski
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    Vet 16 mats are only really obtainable in DLC. Cyrodiil have nodes too far and few between and deconing dungeons drops would take forever.

    This is less p2w than already exists in the game.
  • Omg_Pwned
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    Vet 16 mats are only really obtainable in DLC. Cyrodiil have nodes too far and few between and deconing dungeons drops would take forever.

    This is less p2w than already exists in the game.

    The improvement items are not v16 you can get them on any level.
  • Alorier
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    you know what hell do what you want screw anyone if they haven't got access to dlcs just so others can get what they want , some things are meant to be harder to obtain but people want things made easier for them
  • Mashille
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    @davidtxr

    How is getting 10,000 Tel Var stones easy to obtain?

    IC is pointless with 0 incentive, it needs more stuff that people would be willing to buy.
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    keybaud wrote: »
    @davidtxr

    How is getting 10,000 Tel Var stones easy to obtain?

    IC is pointless with 0 incentive, it needs more stuff that people would be willing to buy.

    As I said not interested
  • EsoRecon
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    keybaud wrote: »
    Sell Gold Improvement Materials for Tel Var stones, would give incentive to Imperial City.

    Maybe make them 10,000 per mat?

    um no, tel var stones are already extremely easy to get. currently have 72k

    nvm if that brings more people to IC then awesome... more 1vX clips for me.
    Edited by EsoRecon on April 11, 2016 2:24PM
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  • AFrostWolf
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    I'm perfectly fine with this as long as IC gets gated on all servers. You also can't have instant respawn inside and if faction loses control they spawn outside in cyrodiil again.
  • Yusuf
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    keybaud wrote: »
    @davidtxr

    How is getting 10,000 Tel Var stones easy to obtain?

    IC is pointless with 0 incentive, it needs more stuff that people would be willing to buy.

    As I said not interested

    @davidtxr I'm not intrested that you're not intrested, go buy your goldmats for in-game gold, refine raw-materials or do crafting-daylies but don't stand in the way of good ideas that might make content that people have PAID FOR better or more fun.

    So, anybody who dismisses something as Pay2Win without knowing the meaning of that phrase please stay out of this.

    Edited by Yusuf on April 11, 2016 2:42PM
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    keybaud wrote: »
    Sell Gold Improvement Materials for Tel Var stones, would give incentive to Imperial City.

    Maybe make them 10,000 per mat?

    yes but as far as the amount...IDK

    I think there are opportunities for TV stones and AP vendors

    Perhaps at least pages if nothing else.
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  • Resipsa131
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
    Have you seen the quantity of nodes in the DLC areas, like 5/1 amounts in DLC areas? If that is P2W, we are already in a P2W state.
  • CasNation
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    This is a great idea. Besides, for those who claim "pay to win" recall that the mats would still be tradable, allowing people without the DLC to buy. Plus, with an additional source of gold tempers, the current absurd prices of things like tempering alloy would drop, allowing EVERYONE, not just those with the DLC, to acquire their gold armor more easily.
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  • Mcwoods55
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    just farm mats and refine them. I never have to worry about gold requirements.
    If I want money I just unload a few....
    Edited by Mcwoods55 on April 11, 2016 3:41PM
  • Valrien
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    Considering the current shortage of gold materials in the world, I approve of alternate sources of these materials.
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  • Waseem
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    Pros:
    gold resins will be cheaper (good for all)
    people overall will find some use of tel var
    market monopoly will cry for the stored thousands of resins and prices
    Cons:
    more bots farming near homebases
  • Brrrofski
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    Omg_Pwned wrote: »
    Brrrofski wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    Vet 16 mats are only really obtainable in DLC. Cyrodiil have nodes too far and few between and deconing dungeons drops would take forever.

    This is less p2w than already exists in the game.

    The improvement items are not v16 you can get them on any level.

    I know.

    But vet 16 mats (rubidite, silk, lorkhan's, repora etc) are only available from:

    Hirelings
    Writs
    Cyrodiil
    Drops from dungeons and pledges
    Buying with tel Var from IC
    Farming Wrothgar
    Farming hew's bane.

    The last three way are by far the most efficient. They are all DLCs you have to pay for. So letting people buy gold mats with tel var is less "pay to win" than it is with v16 mats as gold mats are more accessible, as base game farming is as quick as any method used in DLC.
    Edited by Brrrofski on April 11, 2016 4:04PM
  • LiquidSchwartz
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
    How do you get vr16 mats then lol its already pay to win for end game

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  • idk
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats

    While I disagree the OPs ides would make IC great again, it is a huge stretch of the imagination to call this P2W since gold matts are so easy to come by in game by various means.

    At that, there is gear locked (with the trial gear mostly locked) behind dlc including the BiS gear of the new trial. This is life with DLC models, but that doesn't make the P2W.
  • Mettaricana
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    Its not pay to win Its called paid to keep up with the evolving game noone is gonna hold back a game for the small % who don't wanna fork over 20 $ once every 3 months for a dlc.

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  • Katahdin
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    I think this would be a good idea. We need more and better things to buy with TV stones
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  • Alorier
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
    How do you get vr16 mats then lol its already pay to win for end game

    Please don't try and bait me by copying me in on the message I had already said that I was no longer interested on the discussion anymore yet you still attack my opinion which I am freely intitled too , as for your argument pay to win , yes your right everyone has the chance at getting a gold mat buy farming and refining but this is random and a very low percentage, so you want it now that with x amount of telvar stones you are guaranteed to get which ever gold mat you want just because ypu Paid for a dlc , I'm just sorry that you don't see that's a pay to win format ! someone once asked for these items to be sold in the crown store which is a pay to win format and this idea is no different .

    But I'm not going to be drawed into any further discussion if people can't take a difference of opinion to Theirs then they shouldnt post on a open forum
  • Valrien
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    davidtxr wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
    How do you get vr16 mats then lol its already pay to win for end game

    Please don't try and bait me by copying me in on the message I had already said that I was no longer interested on the discussion anymore yet you still attack my opinion which I am freely intitled too , as for your argument pay to win , yes your right everyone has the chance at getting a gold mat buy farming and refining but this is random and a very low percentage, so you want it now that with x amount of telvar stones you are guaranteed to get which ever gold mat you want just because ypu Paid for a dlc , I'm just sorry that you don't see that's a pay to win format ! someone once asked for these items to be sold in the crown store which is a pay to win format and this idea is no different .

    But I'm not going to be drawed into any further discussion if people can't take a difference of opinion to Theirs then they shouldnt post on a open forum

    You have no reason to post an opinion you aren't willing to defend.
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  • kojou
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    Waseem wrote: »
    Cons:
    more bots farming near homebases

    There are bots farming near home bases?
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  • phreatophile
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    This is a great idea. Nobody is suggesting it be the only way to get gold tempers.

    Just another way and one that is skill based rather than RNG based.
  • Alorier
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    Valrien wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    davidtxr wrote: »
    No as not everyone has access to Ic so this would become a pay to win as these people would be able to get legendary armor quicker and make gold quicker by selling gold mats
    How do you get vr16 mats then lol its already pay to win for end game

    Please don't try and bait me by copying me in on the message I had already said that I was no longer interested on the discussion anymore yet you still attack my opinion which I am freely intitled too , as for your argument pay to win , yes your right everyone has the chance at getting a gold mat buy farming and refining but this is random and a very low percentage, so you want it now that with x amount of telvar stones you are guaranteed to get which ever gold mat you want just because ypu Paid for a dlc , I'm just sorry that you don't see that's a pay to win format ! someone once asked for these items to be sold in the crown store which is a pay to win format and this idea is no different .

    But I'm not going to be drawed into any further discussion if people can't take a difference of opinion to Theirs then they shouldnt post on a open forum

    You have no reason to post an opinion you aren't willing to defend.

    Not getting baited by you ive defend my original post with this shouldnt need to defend this anymore
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