Stam NB ganking...im doing something wrong

brandonv516 · April 2016

Lone vet2 on his horse vs me (vet16)

Shadow cloak
Rally
Ambush
Surprise attack
Heavy attack
Executioner

He's still alive and I died.

Why must I suck so much on an easy kill lol?

Weapon damage at approx 3000
Crit at approx 50 perc
5 shield breaker
3 night mother
3 agility

DannyLV702 · April 2016

I'm assuming this is your only v16? He probably has multiple alts and knows his way around.

D0ntevenL1ft · April 2016

Many factors may be a result of this situation but a lot of people here underestimate skill and rely completely on builds. Work on your rotations and spatial awareness etc as well as perfecting the class and things will change !

Lylith · April 2016

no ult?

just a thought.

dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO · April 2016

vet 2 with all puple gear is legit v15 and could easily be a veteran player with lots of knowledge and skills with 500+cp on top of that, people need to stop thinking easy kill.

I 1v3ed 2v16's+ a lvl 40something on my new v1 toon. although obviously get throttled by top players.

That seems way to soon for executioner. def more surprise first. That better be clipped heavy not full heavy:0 and he is on a horse, no fear?!!! fearing someone on a horse is basically an auto win because it seems to be the only cc that ignores horse stamina, so they cant dismount or cc break; then you do enough damage to knock them off giving you the knocked off horse cc, which they also cant break, and then they are dead unless your dps is garbage. serious case of the LTP on that one.

shield breaker is for hating sorcs not ganking, thats not a great choice unless your running around on a bow lol'ing light attacks on shield spammers, 5 hundings will be better against all other classes = better more of the time.
but its still fun to have a "god damn sorc im going to equip my hate-on set for a bit" for that moment you yell Fing sorcs at your pc.

stojekarcub18_ESO · April 2016

DannyLV702 wrote: »

I'm assuming this is your only v16? He probably has multiple alts and has more CP than you..

brandonv516 · April 2016

No I only have the 1 character...it just amazes me that a character can take such a beating and still turn the situation around with an incredible amount of damage. Is it possible for a lower vet rank to have more cp than a higher one? I have about 300. Also when would be best to fear...after or before ambush?

stojekarcub18_ESO · April 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

No I only have the 1 character...it just amazes me that a character can take such a beating and still turn the situation around with an incredible amount of damage. Is it possible for a lower vet rank to have more cp than a higher one? I have about 300. Also when would be best to fear...after or before ambush?

Yes CP is account-wide.

stojekarcub18_ESO · April 2016

^^Also lag is a big issue...he probably started attacking you before he even appeared on your screen.

Skinzz · April 2016

My level 43 destroyed a v16 ganker in cheydinhal. Learn to play your class lmaoo. Btw shield breaker is trash. Replace with hundings.

LiquidSchwartz · April 2016

Lv 23 templar beat a v16 nightblade ez
But i have capped cp and he prob had 200 or less

Vangy · April 2016

Here's da break down. I has a gank blade khajiit kitty nightmare too.

1. He has 4.5k++ buffed weapon damage.
2. He has close to 70+% crit.
3. He has 38k max stam buffed.

Bow/DW. --> sequence of events.

Step 1: sneaky sneaky sneaky until u see a nubcake trotting around on his/her horse or digging through his/her bag.
Step 2: buff up quickity quick
Step 3: Burst opener; --> sequence of common abilities used by me (depending on situation)

Snipe
Before snipe lands (ambush) + fear
soul harvest (for heal debuff)
SA SA (number of SA depends on how fast ur opponents respond. Results may vary greatly depending on if your opponent is a seasoned battle vet who breaks free instantaneously or if they are a nubbity nubcake who are letting some wee wee down their pants/shorts/skirt when they got hit by snipe) (also remember to weave light attacks here, the extra damage adds up)
KBKBKBKBKBK (mash face on killers blade) Note: (number may vary depending on the situation) ( I use bash cancel to quicken the super slow animation of KB with light attack weaves. Also mash face on KB. Crap did I already mention that?)

Note 2: Cloak may or may not be needed in the above sequence depending on situation ( whether ur ganking a loner or you're targeting someone who is part of a group etc).

Practice practice practice. Practice makes perfect. Be the best gankblade you can be! Hone your skills such that you immediately get hate tells after every successful gank! Let them haters hate! You no care! you too beezy rolling around all dat AP you has!

Note 3: A playstyle like this will result in you getting teabagged if you fail to kill. So... Don't fail =D

DRXHarbinger · April 2016

^ this one knows it. Fully buff in sneak, place a piercing mark, focused aim, lethal injection, switch ambush sup attack and they must be dead by now but spam something like crappy killers blade if you need it. Also run Camo hunter in your bow bar. Most vampires will go pop on the focused aim requiring only a poison injection to finish them off before they even get up.

Tonnopesce · April 2016

Vangy wrote: »

Here's da break down. I has a gank blade khajiit kitty nightmare too.

Note 3: A playstyle like this will result in you getting teabagged if you fail to kill. So... Don't fail =D

If i survive the first wave, where you have all the advantages of the case, believe me , is gonna be a nightmare for you

@OP anyway i gank with my bosmer Stamplar sometimes, but i cannot pretend to join the big fight in a ganker set up or i will be ereased.
Gank only vr 16 & 15 ,low levels are carried to the victory by the battle spirit buff.

Brrrofski · April 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

No I only have the 1 character...it just amazes me that a character can take such a beating and still turn the situation around with an incredible amount of damage. Is it possible for a lower vet rank to have more cp than a higher one? I have about 300. Also when would be best to fear...after or before ambush?

No, you cc to close the kill (unless you're forced into it early to relieve pressure)

Ambush, suprise attack, fear, soul harvest, suprise attack, executioner.

Xarc · April 2016

Skill > CPs

Whatzituyah · April 2016

Have you tried duel wielding maces with armor penetration enchantment and penetration trait? I can tell you as a light armor user you don't want to be on the receiving end but than again light armor.

CaptainBeerDude · April 2016

stojekarcub18_ESO wrote: »

^^Also lag is a big issue...he probably started attacking you before he even appeared on your screen.

You appear to have missed the door out. Perhaps you should take your qq to another game that you may or may not enjoy, and qq about that instead?

mdylan2013 · April 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

Lone vet2 on his horse vs me (vet16)

Shadow cloak
Rally
Ambush
Surprise attack
Heavy attack
Executioner

He's still alive and I died.

Why must I suck so much on an easy kill lol?

Weapon damage at approx 3000
Crit at approx 50 perc
5 shield breaker
3 night mother
3 agility

Fortunately since the last update it's been a lot more difficult for gankblades to get quick kills.

Duiwel · April 2016

OP I was killing V16's on my Level 14 NB in IC for lulz a couple of weeks ago...

Character level means nothing

Keep_Door · April 2016

One word. Focus aim ... Wait two words.

Stam NB ganking 101

Marktoneth3 · April 2016

Duiwel wrote: »

OP I was killing V16's on my Level 14 NB in IC for lulz a couple of weeks ago...

Character level means nothing

No CP ?

MattT1988 · April 2016

If you were the one doing the ganking, then you got what you deserved.

Curtdogg47 · April 2016

When I try to gank, And the key word is TRY. I open with a focused aim from stealth. If there health drops a bunch I continue with the attack. If there health barely drops I run!!

therrieur · April 2016

xskinzcity wrote: »

My level 43 destroyed a v16 ganker in cheydinhal. Learn to play your class lmaoo. Btw shield breaker is trash. Replace with hundings.

Don't you think that's generalizing?

Sunburnt_Penguin · April 2016

Curtdogg47 wrote: »

When I try to gank, And the key word is TRY. I open with a focused aim from stealth. If there health drops a bunch I continue with the attack. If there health barely drops I run!!

I learnt this the hard way.

leem1988 · April 2016

I'm thinking about using a gank build. Do you guys average a lot of kills? Is it hard to kill decent players, or anyone who runs impen, and/or heavy armor?

EsoRecon · April 2016

brandonv516 wrote: »

Lone vet2 on his horse vs me (vet16)

Shadow cloak
Rally
Ambush
Surprise attack
Heavy attack
Executioner

He's still alive and I died.

Why must I suck so much on an easy kill lol?

Weapon damage at approx 3000
Crit at approx 50 perc
5 shield breaker
3 night mother
3 agility

3000 wep damage is quite low

Katahdin · April 2016

I killed a V16 templar on my lvl 30 NB in lvl 20 armor. Granted the templar was probably a PvEer farming chests for motifs. I was farming chests on that character as he is my highest EP.

We met at a chest location and they attacked me first. I stood there at first cause how the hell could I beat a V16 right? Well, they hit like a wet noodle....my health regen out regen their dps...lol. I'm all stam with hundings and night mother with most of the right skills unlocked, and about 380 CP at the time. I have high stam and health regen through CP and some experience in Cyrodil.

Probably would have ended differently if my opponent was a PVPer but it sure opened my eyes about who is weak and who isn't in Cyrodil. You can't assume anything.

LadyNalcarya · April 2016

Join some kind of duel guild so you can l2p 1v1.
Because otherwise you'll get screwed every time your target survives initial burst.

Suru · April 2016

Hmmm...have you tried getting a second weapon and ability bar

but also I didnt see relentless focus in your sneaky sneaky gank rotation for minor berserk buff