Is shuffle working right

coolermh · April 2016

A few days ago I shot five snipes at a guy who was in his menu and he dodged all of them without moving....

Anyone else notice shuffle is kinda broken

Shunravi · April 2016

this video may just be entirely in context...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQ6zr6kCPj8&nohtml5=False

Vaoh · April 2016

There is an exploit involving Shuffle. You can make that 20% dodge chance go higher than 20%. I was recently informed on how to perform it (and will never because it's pathetic). Did not test yet, but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

ZOS will fix it before everyone learns as it has been reported multiple times.

So yes, it is definitely broken. Believe me when I say that no one dodges 5 Snipes out of sheer luck from a 20% dodge chance.

DannyLV702 · April 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

There is an exploit involving Shuffle. You can make that 20% dodge chance go higher than 20%. I was recently informed on how to perform it (and will never because it's pathetic). Did not test yet, but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

ZOS will fix it before everyone learns as it has been reported multiple times.

So yes, it is definitely broken. Believe me when I say that no one dodges 5 Snipes out of sheer luck from a 20% dodge chance.

Teach me the exploit I want to cheat

maxjapank · April 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

Is there some way you could help us identify them without giving away the exploit? Besides just a feeling that something isn't right.

Vangy · April 2016

DannyLV702 wrote: »

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Doncellius wrote: »

There is an exploit involving Shuffle. You can make that 20% dodge chance go higher than 20%. I was recently informed on how to perform it (and will never because it's pathetic). Did not test yet, but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

ZOS will fix it before everyone learns as it has been reported multiple times.

So yes, it is definitely broken. Believe me when I say that no one dodges 5 Snipes out of sheer luck from a 20% dodge chance.

Teach me the exploit I want to cheat

Someone needs to take one for the team and post that info somewhere public. Like maybe on reddit or something. That way ZOS will pounce on it ASAP.

Brrrofski · April 2016

Doncellius wrote: »

There is an exploit involving Shuffle. You can make that 20% dodge chance go higher than 20%. I was recently informed on how to perform it (and will never because it's pathetic). Did not test yet, but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

ZOS will fix it before everyone learns as it has been reported multiple times.

So yes, it is definitely broken. Believe me when I say that no one dodges 5 Snipes out of sheer luck from a 20% dodge chance.

You do know telling everyone is the quickest way to get it fixed right?

So spill.

Certain players are just shrugging off 4 out of 5 abilities on xbox. That's the reverse of shuffle's dodge chance.

failkiwib16_ESO · April 2016

Back at early release of IC, I duelled a stamina DK that could dodge most of my attacks.

I am an obvious noob at duelling, so he didn't attack me back after first time he killed me, he just let me attack him and dodged closed to all my attacks.

He used shuffle, I bet he was wearing hist bark or some other dodge-set gear, and he rolledodged a few times. So I could hit him with 5/20 spells maybe. His dps was pathetic compared to my dps, however since he would dodge my attacks to the point where I ran out of resources, he could own me so bad...

I play a magicka templar... so I respecced my champion points and put them all into Elemental Expert (back then Thaumaturge would buff magicka dmg) and I used destro staff abilities, he could still drain me of resources by dodging most attacks.

I felt so molested and abused by that session >_>

I doubt he was using a bugged shuffle, however he was able to dodge 15/20 attacks as minimum by combining gear and skills + dodgerolling.

Vaoh · April 2016

maxjapank wrote: »

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Doncellius wrote: »

but it makes sense and also explains a lot about players using it and how to identify them immediately.

Is there some way you could help us identify them without giving away the exploit? Besides just a feeling that something isn't right.

Not really. The problem is that the exploit is not hard to perform. You don't need to work at it or do something strange for Dodge chance to increase.

EDIT: I'm gonna test myself soon and see if the strategy is real. Sounds real. Either way, ZOS will eventually fix.

OrphanHelgen · April 2016

Its kind of annoying when people are like: I know but not gonna tell you.
not that I will exploit, I didnt even use the two mundus stone bug a while back.

psychotic13 · April 2016

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Its kind of annoying when people are like: I know but not gonna tell you.
not that I will exploit, I didnt even use the two mundus stone bug a while back.

This, I don't see the point in mentioning it if you're not willing to shine a light on what's actually happening.

Solara · April 2016

i wish they would fix this, but there isn't any maintenance this week.

Jaronking · April 2016

I really don't think its a bug just RNG being on people side.

VoiDGhOs7 · April 2016

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

Vaoh · April 2016

psychotic13 wrote: »

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OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Its kind of annoying when people are like: I know but not gonna tell you.
not that I will exploit, I didnt even use the two mundus stone bug a while back.

This, I don't see the point in mentioning it if you're not willing to shine a light on what's actually happening.

I know I know, you want to exploit it while available. Not going to tell anyone yet besides a handful of testers and ZOS to get rid of it. This bug is not written anywhere online and I have only seen like 2 people on PS4 ever using it. Can't speak on how many PC players use it, but judging by how slow ZOS is to fix it I would rather not have it become public knowledge (and probably get banned from forums too lol).

psychotic13 · April 2016

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psychotic13 wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

Its kind of annoying when people are like: I know but not gonna tell you.
not that I will exploit, I didnt even use the two mundus stone bug a while back.

This, I don't see the point in mentioning it if you're not willing to shine a light on what's actually happening.

I know I know, you want to exploit it while available. Not going to tell anyone yet besides a handful of testers and ZOS to get rid of it. This bug is not written anywhere online and I have only seen like 2 people on PS4 ever using it. Can't speak on how many PC players use it, but judging by how slow ZOS is to fix it I would rather not have it become public knowledge (and probably get banned from forums too lol).

You're right in what you're saying, but now you've made everyone curious haha

Alcast · April 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

AfkNinja · April 2016

Alcast wrote: »

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VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

If it's as easy to reproduce as just using Shuffle 4 times in a row and they hadn't found it or fixed it by now that would just be embarrassing really.....like REALLY embarrassing.

Jaronking · April 2016

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

Still don't believe its bug just RNG being on some players side.

Alcast · April 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

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Alcast wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

If it's as easy to reproduce as just using Shuffle 4 times in a row and they hadn't found it or fixed it by now that would just be embarrassing really.....like REALLY embarrassing.

bro....pliis... >.> They could not reproduce the Mola Kena Proc thingy with Skill>LA>Skill....we had to send them a video on how to do it.

AfkNinja · April 2016

Alcast wrote: »

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AfkNinja wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

If it's as easy to reproduce as just using Shuffle 4 times in a row and they hadn't found it or fixed it by now that would just be embarrassing really.....like REALLY embarrassing.

bro....pliis... >.> They could not reproduce the Mola Kena Proc thingy with Skill>LA>Skill....we had to send them a video on how to do it.

Why do I still play this game....

Alcast · April 2016

AfkNinja wrote: »

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Alcast wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

If it's as easy to reproduce as just using Shuffle 4 times in a row and they hadn't found it or fixed it by now that would just be embarrassing really.....like REALLY embarrassing.

bro....pliis... >.> They could not reproduce the Mola Kena Proc thingy with Skill>LA>Skill....we had to send them a video on how to do it.

Why do I still play this game....

And guess what. It is still not fixed although they said it will be fixed with TG.
Sometimes I wonder that myself. Well, when it works its great. Sadly it merely works 10% of the time lol.

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO · April 2016

Jaronking wrote: »

Still don't believe its bug just RNG being on some players side.

I'd start the exploit investigation with this guy...

Vaoh · April 2016

Alcast wrote: »

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AfkNinja wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

AfkNinja wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »

Shuffle is bugged!

Cast it 4/5 times and dodge chance will stack that's all nothing special.

ZOS be like: We were unable to reproduce this bug, could you please send a Video to us to see how it works?

If it's as easy to reproduce as just using Shuffle 4 times in a row and they hadn't found it or fixed it by now that would just be embarrassing really.....like REALLY embarrassing.

bro....pliis... >.> They could not reproduce the Mola Kena Proc thingy with Skill>LA>Skill....we had to send them a video on how to do it.

Why do I still play this game....

And guess what. It is still not fixed although they said it will be fixed with TG.
Sometimes I wonder that myself. Well, when it works its great. Sadly it merely works 10% of the time lol.

You actually have some real influenece in ESO Alcast. A known name. They won't fix it even though YOU told them. Wow....

Jaronking · April 2016

milesrodneymcneely2_ESO wrote: »

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Jaronking wrote: »

Still don't believe its bug just RNG being on some players side.

I'd start the exploit investigation with this guy...

Dude I don't use any Exploits and will stop using shuffle if it turns out it is.My point still stands its increase your Chance to proc a Dodge so its basic RNG they just got lucky or give their first son to RNGjesus.

Panth141 · April 2016

Group of 8 DC all using shuffle... wonder why

Waffennacht · April 2016

I'm going to assume it is functioning as posted, that it stacks, why? Because several people have posted that they're gonna test it... and yet no one has posted that it does or doesn't work when they tried... usually when it works they don't post it and keep it... im on to you! Lol

Edit: And another boon to resto staff, it's undodgeable...

Panth141 · April 2016

I haven't tested, so can't definitively confirm. However I've had multiple one-vs-ones with suspicious shuffle users tonight and all I've seen is 'dodge', 'dodge', 'dodge'...

@ZOS_GinaBruno

Vaoh · April 2016

Waffennacht wrote: »

I'm going to assume it is functioning as posted, that it stacks, why? Because several people have posted that they're gonna test it... and yet no one has posted that it does or doesn't work when they tried... usually when it works they don't post it and keep it... im on to you! Lol

Edit: And another boon to resto staff, it's undodgeable...

Was going to test it, but I'm getting in my last hours of fun PvP before my 1-2 month break for Dark Souls 3

Probably not playing ESO again until Dark Brotherhood is on PTS or being shown off on ESO Live. Hitting up randoms to test an exploit (therefore teaching them the exploit) is not my idea of fun.

It is a real bug, and doesn't even need testing. Already know some players who use it/admit that Shuffle can be stacked through a certain way. Plenty of people know it exists but not how to replicate it and it should be kept as under the radar it currently is.

Lexxypwns · April 2016

Shuffle is 100% bugged in a game breaking way. Anyone who says otherwise is either ill-informed or covering up their use of it. When magika builds start running expensive stamina abilities you know it isn't performing as intended

Also, bugged shuffle + tava's = GG

Minalan · April 2016

This explains why certain people have only been killable with curse, proxy det, and heavy resto.

I mean, I can deal with it somewhat, but this is game breaking bad.