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Thieves Guild DLC Review! (video)
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mitchav66✭✭✭Good review, agree with it completely, this DLC sucks..and has caused so many more issues with the rest of the game...
I agree. The issue isn't the content however, it's how the content works with the rest of the game and in my opinion, it just doesn't. The justice system needs to be rebalanced imo, so that people who aren't as adept at sneaking like I am will not rage and make a negative review.
Just an fyi for all the other posters, I do like the stealth aspect. Hell i've played the entire metal gear series TWICE. It is just done wrong in this game in my opinion and I prefer not to do it.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
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mitchav66✭✭✭nimander99 wrote: »Hew's Bane is too complicated? Quest tracker doesn't lead you right to the place you should go? That's what's amazing about the DLC, finally you have to explore and learn an area.
Why does everything have to be handed to people on silver platter? Why does everyone need to complete everything in 1 day? You guys are ruining my genre... go play Candy Crush or something ffs
Its ok that you have to explore an area. But if you're saying that hew's bane isnt confusing to get around then I wouldn't believe you.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
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Kendaric✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
If you don't like sneaking, why play the DLC at all? Or if you want to try it out, why not create a character specifically for the DLC?
It's not like you need every skill line on every character (and the TG skill line is more fluff anyway).0 -
Elloa✭✭✭✭✭
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I didnt mean to start an argument, or upset you in any way. I wasnt accusing you of anything, and I have no problems with you or the OP. I was simply pointing out how it looked to ME a third party watching both videos. I am sorry if this offends you, but that is how it appeared to me.
Anyways good job to you both on your videos
It's okay! Sorry if I toke it badly. I had too much with some special birds coming in my videos to accuse me to be paid by Zenimax, which is ridiculous (would be nice though. I'd not say no if I had a job offer at Zenimax) and so I get a bit sensitive on that matter
Peace to you!
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Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭I agree with the OP that this DLC is the worst so far.
But that is where I stop agreeing with OP's video.
Everything else just boils down to a thing I hate most:
Players wanting every game content to be made suitable for their playstyle.
I am going through TG content super fast & easy on my magicka tank DK. I just had to gear him for thieving.
Thieving in ESO is super easy, you just DON'T WANT TO. End of story.4 -
mitchav66✭✭✭Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
If you don't like sneaking, why play the DLC at all? Or if you want to try it out, why not create a character specifically for the DLC?
It's not like you need every skill line on every character (and the TG skill line is more fluff anyway).
Didn't say i didn't like sneaking, just said my character isnt built for it. Why do i have to make a new character not to be frustrated playing this dlc?Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
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mitchav66✭✭✭I agree with the OP that this DLC is the worst so far.
But that is where I stop agreeing with OP's video.
Everything else just boils down to a thing I hate most:
Players wanting every game content to be made suitable for their playstyle.
I am going through TG content super fast & easy on my magicka tank DK. I just had to gear him for thieving.
Thieving in ESO is super easy, you just DON'T WANT TO. End of story.
Thats the thing.. It should be suitable to ALL playstyles. Not just one.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.Edited by Lysette on March 20, 2016 11:08AM2 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp1 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp
You catched the wrong person - I am not the one doing that.0 -
Mojmir✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp
You catched the wrong person - I am not the one doing that.
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mitchav66✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
I'm not claiming its a bad dlc.. Im claiming that it doesn't work with the current systems in place.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
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mitchav66✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp
You catched the wrong person - I am not the one doing that.
In essence this review was a strike against the justice system.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlmLyIuJFA0 -
Dubhliam✭✭✭✭✭
✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp
You catched the wrong person - I am not the one doing that.
In essence this review was a strike against the justice system.
I agree the Justice system is not good.
But I look at it on a completely different angle than you (and I can't find another person that agrees with you).
I think the current Justice system is just plain too easy and not punishing enough.
This is just one of the examples how thieves have it easy in the game.
I don't count you as a thief, you are obviously not one.
This version of the Justice system is obviously not working for you or your mentality, you should focus on other aspects of the game.
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martinhpb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭martinhpb16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Just me but please try in the future not to drop f bombs. I was showing this to my nephew and had to stop the video because of your profanity use. Other than that nice video what I saw of it anyways.
Show Elloa's review to your nephew, it is presented in a proper way
Main problem with this DLC is - see how fast those delve bosses go down? Yeh it looks good but unfortunately its not a single player environment so the level is all wrong.
You can always tune yourself down - reset CP - use low level gear - to buff yourself to the max and then to complain that it is too easy is not any helpful, the game does not evolve around maxed out characters but the average guy/gal.
Spoke with a level 36 player tonight I was grouped with in a delve farming boss for motif. I asked him how he was finding it in terms of mob difficulty. He replied that it was too easy.
I keep hearing what you say so I think that I'm going to take off all my cp and run with some basic white gear. Of course I cant say what will happen but me feeling is still that the difficulty level is set below "average" especially if what you are saying is to turn off CP. The "average" player has CP. Seems pretty drastic.
How is "average" guaged anyhow?Edited by martinhpb16_ESO on March 20, 2016 10:41PMAt least the spelling is difficult for you.
Hew's Bane*0 -
lihentian✭✭✭✭✭lack of content is the biggest issue with this dlc.... and buggy...and lame(assistant/skill line)0 -
rager82b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭Only thing you had to say.
PVP: Still AOE caps? Bad expansion.
PVE: 1 trial? Bad expansion.
Done. All you need to say.0 -
Volkodav✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
You can run,and if close to water,jump in.I have gotten away many times.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
You can run,and if close to water,jump in.I have gotten away many times.
Yeah, and argonian speed swimming can come in handy as well with an Argonian character.0 -
mitchav66✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
Yes I am trying to sneak in heavy armor. Here is the thing. Why should I change my play style, one that I have played through the entire game with, just to be able to play this dlc with less frustration?
Did I have to use magic when playing the mages guild? No. Did I have to be a melee fighter to do the fighters guild? I am but I didn't have to. The point is, you have to sneak to do the thieves guild. It isn't an option, you have to. And for people who aren't good at sneaking or don't have the neccesary perks to be good at it, you'll likely have a hard time enjoying this as much as someone who does.
This is one of the weirdest arguments against the TG DLC ever - you basically expect, that the DLC should cater to your inability and unwillingness to adapt your play style to the task on hand - namely being stealthy - and claim it to be a bad DLC, just because you are too damned lazy to adjust to the role of a thief. Seriously, you are really complaining about yourself here. If you cannot overcome your laziness, it is not the fault of the game - it is YOU, who is flawed here, not the DLC.
how the hell do you expect to sneak in heavy armor? i understand you want to play in your style,but no F'N way!!!
the whole point of this DLC is thievery,stealth,sneak,slight of hand,and camels.
next youd want to set up a nudist colony in my forward camp
You catched the wrong person - I am not the one doing that.
In essence this review was a strike against the justice system.
I agree the Justice system is not good.
But I look at it on a completely different angle than you (and I can't find another person that agrees with you).
I think the current Justice system is just plain too easy and not punishing enough.
This is just one of the examples how thieves have it easy in the game.
I don't count you as a thief, you are obviously not one.
This version of the Justice system is obviously not working for you or your mentality, you should focus on other aspects of the game.
The difficulty of getting away isn't whats faulty about the justice system if you've been following this thread or watched the video then you'd know what I'm talking aboutCheck out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlmLyIuJFA0 -
mitchav66✭✭✭I love this DLC. I didn't have nearly as much of a hard time as OP seems to have. OP are you trying to sneak in heavy armor? It just seems like you don't want to be a thief. Naturally, you won't like the content.
I did get irritated by unkillable guards a couple of times. Worse than that, I don't like not being able to open any doors once a guard is after you. Sometimes you can't escape. If you sneak into a home, you have no idea if you will be seen or not. If you have bad luck and there is a guard there, it can be a death trap. But that only happened to me once.
I did this content on my Templar as well. But you at least need to make an effort and put on some medium armor.
You can run,and if close to water,jump in.I have gotten away many times.
Sure you can get away... But its the bounties they'll put on you and the slowness of the meter is what is most aggravating.Check out my video on the Top 20 Things ESO NEEDS (In My Opinion)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXlmLyIuJFA0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VNqZU90IZDc