I suppose there is already IC for those who wish to PvE in a PvP environment. But I still have to vote no....there is plenty of PvE in the game for those who wish to avoid PvP entirely and I don't want any hardcore changes being made to cyrodil. It would probably just break more things

It would require ZoS to maintain a new server, that includes downtime, maintanance days and the money to do so could simply go into making things like expanding the class system a housing system with a lot of customization or simply damn bug fixes.

I've been suggesting a idea on this for a while.

I think it works better I you leave PvP Cyrodil as is tho.
Just create a PvE faction limited zone without PvP elements just as other questing zones but this Cyrodil would need to work different or have scaled PvE version

Population management and lore consistency would be out of the window.

And frankly, Cyrodiil's PvE is next to none. Nor is its layout interesting for PvE content: it's clearly balanced and designed from a PvP standpoint. Would rather have them build something new and good than do something technically tricky like separate PvP/PvE instances as well as redesign half of the content/maps to make them appropriate.

Why not take the Sanctuary buff you get in IC and make it a consumable or toggleable buff?

More likely consumable, considering I can see many ways that a buff would be exploited, but it's an idea.

Wollust wrote: »

How about removing PvE from Cyrodiil and let us PvPers have one single zone in the game just for us?

You get an agree from me; it removes any reason for PVEers to enter Cyrodiil at all. (Well, aside from Skyshards, I suppose.) No frustration from PVEers just trying to quest, and (potentially) less lag for PVPers.

On the other hand, there are a lot of delves and overworld PVE things in Cyrodiil, and I doubt they'd waste all that effort by removing them.

Only if the make the PvE version of Cyrodiil and IC not give any alliance points, alliance rank XP, TV stones or hakedjo runes. Just quests, delves, harvest nodes and fishing. Otherwise no.

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Only if the make the PvE version of Cyrodiil and IC not give any alliance points, alliance rank XP, TV stones or hakedjo runes. Just quests, delves, harvest nodes and fishing. Otherwise no.

you could still have the alliance war quests, points, ranks, bounties etc without PvP.

No. You want those skills and alliance benefits? Then go earn alliance ranks and points by fighting for your alliance. Thats what alliance ranks mean. You guys just want an easy mode for those items and skills.

PvE Cyrodil should have no alliance quests either. There won't be any scrolls and keeps to capture, camps to scout, etc because there won't be any enemy to capture them from. No, NPC enemies dont count. They are too predictable and can be learned.

The only quests in PvE Cyrodil should be the non repeatable and the repeatable that have nothing to do with the war effort.

Disclosure: I primarily play PvE but I do play some PvP. I still feel that some things should be earned the way they were meant to be earned. Alliance ranks and points are some of those things.

Katahdin wrote: »

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Only if the make the PvE version of Cyrodiil and IC not give any alliance points, alliance rank XP, TV stones or hakedjo runes. Just quests, delves, harvest nodes and fishing. Otherwise no.

you could still have the alliance war quests, points, ranks, bounties etc without PvP.

No. You want those skills and alliance benefits? Then go earn alliance ranks and points by fighting for your alliance. Thats what alliance ranks mean. You guys just want an easy mode for those items and skills.

PvE Cyrodil should have no alliance quests either. There won't be any scrolls and keeps to capture, camps to scout, etc because there won't be any enemy to capture them from. No, NPC enemies dont count. They are too predictable and can be learned.

The only quests in PvE Cyrodil should be the non repeatable and the repeatable that have nothing to do with the war effort.

Disclosure: I primarily play PvE but I do play some PvP. I still feel that some things should be earned the way they were meant to be earned. Alliance ranks and points are some of those things.

Fighting for your alliance and earning ranks/AP can be done in the same way other faction rep is earned without PVP, NPC's do count when capturing keeps, scouting camps, stealing scrolls etc.

I bet if they split Cyro into PvE and PvP campaigns, PvPers would finally get their wish of no lag.

Oh wait, they don't get PvEers to gank.

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

shadowwraith666 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Only if the make the PvE version of Cyrodiil and IC not give any alliance points, alliance rank XP, TV stones or hakedjo runes. Just quests, delves, harvest nodes and fishing. Otherwise no.

you could still have the alliance war quests, points, ranks, bounties etc without PvP.

No. You want those skills and alliance benefits? Then go earn alliance ranks and points by fighting for your alliance. Thats what alliance ranks mean. You guys just want an easy mode for those items and skills.

PvE Cyrodil should have no alliance quests either. There won't be any scrolls and keeps to capture, camps to scout, etc because there won't be any enemy to capture them from. No, NPC enemies dont count. They are too predictable and can be learned.

The only quests in PvE Cyrodil should be the non repeatable and the repeatable that have nothing to do with the war effort.

Disclosure: I primarily play PvE but I do play some PvP. I still feel that some things should be earned the way they were meant to be earned. Alliance ranks and points are some of those things.

Fighting for your alliance and earning ranks/AP can be done in the same way other faction rep is earned without PVP, NPC's do count when capturing keeps, scouting camps, stealing scrolls etc.

Again, no. Not the same thing at all. NPCS dont behave in even remotely the same way as players. Players are highly unpredictable, vary in number and in variety and can be everywhere. NPCS are scripted, have limited range, behavior can be learned, constant in number of spawns, have a set respawn etc, etc.

I am against any easy mode alliance point/rank aquisition, even though it would benefit me as a PvEer. PvE in Cyro only slightly less easy mode than non-vet PvE.

They are called "alliance points/ranks" because they are earned actually fighting for your alliance against other players from other factions. Not beating up on/tricking the scripted AI until it's dead.

Wollust wrote: »

How about removing PvE from Cyrodiil and let us PvPers have one single zone in the game just for us?

How exactly are PVPers bothered by PVE players?
I feel like the opposite is more true.

Scheneighnay wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

How about removing PvE from Cyrodiil and let us PvPers have one single zone in the game just for us?

How exactly are PVPers bothered by PVE players?
I feel like the opposite is more true.

Imagine a playground designed for football players, with a couple of kids doing other stuff, I dunno, hoola-hooping or something. The playground's large enough, they usually don't bump into each other. But it's kinda odd the hoola-hoopers are the ones saying the football players are the baddies cause they're rather rough in their play, and the football players only hope that the amount of hoola-hoopers won't increase so they can continue to play football. After all, you can hoola-hoop all over the place, but football requires a proper field.


Frankly, I imagine it's just kinda annoyance. PvP is not in a great state and every so often threads like this pop up: PvP'ers just feel threatened. They wanna play the content they paid for, not have it changed to cater to another part of the demographic or neglected. I'm a mostly PvE player fyi.


Edit: also, imagine the backlash PvP Justice got. Many PvP players were unhappy with its cancellation, while many PvE'ers were happy. It's not the same situation, since there's never been PvP in the rest of Tamriel, but still, to be competitive, PvPers are 'forced' to do PvE content just like you are 'forced' to do PvP. The PvP community could rightly ask PvE zones become PvP enabled. But they don't. There's borders in place and they respect those. It's been said: this is PvP and this is PvE. Who doesn't like PvP, doesn't play DOTA 2 - there's PvE in there mind you. I can't understand why the same can't go for Cyrodiil.

I would love one pve instance to see and finish the quests in IC. I really really want to get monster teeth but it makes me hate everything getting ganked a million times my character isnt built for pvp Or the ability to toggle a 'passive or non combative' role when queuing into cyrodil. . But you have to leave the campaign completely in order to come in and pvp that same area so you cant toggle into a battle unfairly.