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  • Ghost-Shot
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    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
  • frozywozy
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    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
    Edited by frozywozy on March 28, 2016 10:32PM
    Frozn - Stamdk - AR50
    Frosted - Magplar - AR50
    Frodn - Magden - AR50
    Warmed - Magblade - AR50
    Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
    Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
    Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
    PvP Group Builds

    “Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt
    • Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
    • Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
    • Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
    • Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
    • Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
    • Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
    • Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
    • Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
    • Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
    • Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
    • Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
    • Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
    • Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
    • Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
    • Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
    • Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
    • Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
    • Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
    • Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
    • Introduce dynamic population
    • Lower population cap by 20%
    • Add Snare Immunity potions
    • Bring resurrection sickness
    • Fix character desync
    • Fix cc breaking bug
    • Fix gap closer bug
    • Fix health desync
    • Fix combat bug
    • Fix streak bug
    • Fix server lag
  • Satiar
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.

    Why?

    Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
    Same old story.

    Why is is suddenly going to improve?
    Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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  • HoloYoitsu
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    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.

    Why?

    Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
    Same old story.

    Why is is suddenly going to improve?
    Wishful thinking.
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    Xsorus wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    Xsorus wrote: »
    Fact is I do not ever see any ping times 999+. It could easily be something with your home network. For example I knew someone having network issues come to find out his network wasnt secure. Someone was using file sharing programs to dominate all his bandwidth. It only happened when the guy was downloading so to the user it seemed like it couldnt be his network when in fact it was.

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    You could download movies all day long at my house..and this would not have an effect on me....

    I get Ping Issues out the ass because the server itself is lagging horribly..

    WTF internet is that?

    EPB.....1000 Download/1000 Upload for $69 a month in Chattanooga TN

    Technically I could get 10000 Download/10000 Upload if I really wanted the fastest option... but its like $200 a month.

    Oh and thought i'd add..I have no download caps...or upload caps..EPB doesn't think they're necessary.

    paying about 50$ /month for 40m down 4up.. but thats israel ;d
    impressing though.. u can seed torrents or u go to jail? :P
  • Poxheart
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    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.

    Why?

    Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
    Same old story.

    Why is is suddenly going to improve?

    In Frozn's world, Cyrodiil's performance will improve when population drops down to +/- 30 people per faction after all the negative Nancy's (i.e anybody who is critical of the game) have left.
    Unsubbed and no longer playing, but still checking the Alliance War forum for the lulz.

    Pox Dragon Knight
    Poxheart Nightblade
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  • frozywozy
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    Poxheart wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.

    Why?

    Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
    Same old story.

    Why is is suddenly going to improve?

    In Frozn's world, Cyrodiil's performance will improve when population drops down to +/- 30 people per faction after all the negative Nancy's (i.e anybody who is critical of the game) have left.

    Make my own words as much as you want, nobody but [snip] people running in 24men ballgroups who disagree with my opinion. I've said several times what populations should be at. They should be at what 3 bars actually is. Nothing more, nothing less. Suit yourself.

    There is a difference between being critical, pessimist and not constructive and being critical, optimist and bring suggestions/proofs on the table.


    [edited for bait]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 29, 2016 2:11PM
    Frozn - Stamdk - AR50
    Frosted - Magplar - AR50
    Frodn - Magden - AR50
    Warmed - Magblade - AR50
    Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
    Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
    Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
    PvP Group Builds

    “Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt
    • Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
    • Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
    • Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
    • Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
    • Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
    • Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
    • Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
    • Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
    • Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
    • Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
    • Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
    • Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
    • Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
    • Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
    • Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
    • Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
    • Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
    • Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
    • Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
    • Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
    • Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
    • Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
    • Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
    • Introduce dynamic population
    • Lower population cap by 20%
    • Add Snare Immunity potions
    • Bring resurrection sickness
    • Fix character desync
    • Fix cc breaking bug
    • Fix gap closer bug
    • Fix health desync
    • Fix combat bug
    • Fix streak bug
    • Fix server lag
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    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
    Who are you referring to? I moved over to BDO with a large number of people and I don't know of any that went back.

    BDO has so much more depth than ESO ever will and it actually works.
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    How can anyone place blame on the absolutely horrible performance of ESO on the players and their internet? The devs have admitted multiple times that the issues are all in the coding and servers.

    I can't believe anyone still has hope that this game will ever work properly. It's time for you guys to move on. Game is dead. RIP
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  • Soulac
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    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.

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    Doesn't look like ZOS has even the faintest clue of how loyal a community they have let down over the past two years.
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Doesn't look like ZOS has even the faintest clue of how loyal a community they have let down over the past two years.

    They live in an imaginary world where TESO has million of subscribers and nobody complains.

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    Glad to see some civil discussion on both sides. We are stronger united than divided.

    Stealing a quote from Fallout 3 "Keep fighting the good fight!"

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    What you have to do to fix the latency is roll a new character in the opposing faction.. lol....
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  • God_flakes
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    Every 3 months or so I check in here to see if people are still shaming Zos for ruining pvp a little more after each patch. It has become comedic how the comments remain the same every time. For two years.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.

    Then those people should just leave and go someplace else. I dont understand the problem. Dont like the service then dont use it. Lots of people are happily playing the game. 100,000 new copies last month alone. So sorry if I dont buy into your doom and gloom. I honestly just wish people who arent happy with the product could find something else to do. Then the people who DO enjoy the game can get some attention for once.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    Every 3 months or so I check in here to see if people are still shaming Zos for ruining pvp a little more after each patch. It has become comedic how the comments remain the same every time. For two years.

    Not as comedic as someone who comes back every three months to check on a game they hate hehe.
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    I can't believe nobody has accused you of being a dev yet. You're clearly a dev. Is this what you guys do with your time?
  • Soulac
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
    100,000 new copies last month alone.

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  • Poxheart
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    frozywozy wrote: »
    Poxheart wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »
    Ghost-Shot wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.

    I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.

    If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.

    PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.

    1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
    2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.

    For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.

    I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.

    @ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.

    Why?

    Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
    Same old story.

    Why is is suddenly going to improve?

    In Frozn's world, Cyrodiil's performance will improve when population drops down to +/- 30 people per faction after all the negative Nancy's (i.e anybody who is critical of the game) have left.

    Make my own words as much as you want, nobody but [snip] people running in 24men ballgroups who disagree with my opinion. I've said several times what populations should be at. They should be at what 3 bars actually is. Nothing more, nothing less. Suit yourself.

    There is a difference between being critical, pessimist and not constructive and being critical, optimist and bring suggestions/proofs on the table.

    I can't decipher your first sentence, but I'll posit that even if Zos hard-capped population at 3 bars there would still be performance issues in Cyrodiil. [snip]


    [edited to remove bait]
    Edited by ZOS_CoriJ on March 29, 2016 2:13PM
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
    100,000 new copies last month alone.

    PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/

    No more need to doubt.

  • AbraXuSeXile
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    Slightly off topic, Does anyone remember that youtube trailer vid of eso that is funny about lag and combat? Been trying to find it. It was slightly after patch 1.2.3
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  • GRxKnight
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    Actually frozn has a point...we could be back in the meteor spam meta that was early 1.6 and no skills working lag...i'd say that we still are in the meteor spam meta but the ping compared to the two is better....overall I'd say pvp latency has improved but not in the sense that it's good...lag is rarely an issue, it's more so what combat is like these days with all the snares and the roll of counter siege in this patch...i think that's what people are mostly upset about cause anyone who played in the extinction of dinosaurs patch knows what a contested keep fight felt like with all the meteors being rained down

    Also @Ghost-Shot @Satiar which realm are you guys looking at in CU?
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    I blame it on FCs. I'm serious.
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    Semi-retired till the lag is fixed.

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    Soulac wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
    100,000 new copies last month alone.

    PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/

    No more need to doubt.

    Thanks for the post @jamesharv2005ub17_ESO Yet of course the 'sky is falling', 'people are leaving in droves', players will still stick to their chosen belief that the game is dying. Even though last night was another example, on a Monday night, the AD leveling zones were packed again.
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  • God_flakes
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    "Packed"? What does that even mean? Do you have some super secret knowledge about how many players were in a pve zone? The argument isn't so much the game is dying, as it is the pvp portion is a laggy craptastic mess. Those poor ad noobs will soon see for themselves.
  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    God_flakes wrote: »
    "Packed"? What does that even mean? Do you have some super secret knowledge about how many players were in a pve zone? The argument isn't so much the game is dying, as it is the pvp portion is a laggy craptastic mess. Those poor ad noobs will soon see for themselves.

    Well in my opinion packed is when you walk in the bank and cant see the floor. Its been like this for quite some time on NA pc in all the starter zones.
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
    100,000 new copies last month alone.

    PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/

    No more need to doubt.

    Who gives a rats *** about how many units were sold, we all bought the game. The problem is the longevity.
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  • jamesharv2005ub17_ESO
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    Soulac wrote: »
    Soulac wrote: »
    Satiar wrote: »
    frozywozy wrote: »

    Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.

    The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.

    Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.

    Doubt.
    Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
    CU won't be any different.

    You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
    100,000 new copies last month alone.

    PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
    PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/

    No more need to doubt.

    Who gives a rats *** about how many units were sold, we all bought the game. The problem is the longevity.

    Well if you had read it I stated it sold 100,000 copies last month across all platforms. He said he doubted that. So I provided proof. Also you been here longer than I have. Thats some serious longevity there.
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