jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
Wishful thinking.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
Why?
Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
Same old story.
Why is is suddenly going to improve?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Fact is I do not ever see any ping times 999+. It could easily be something with your home network. For example I knew someone having network issues come to find out his network wasnt secure. Someone was using file sharing programs to dominate all his bandwidth. It only happened when the guy was downloading so to the user it seemed like it couldnt be his network when in fact it was.
You could download movies all day long at my house..and this would not have an effect on me....
I get Ping Issues out the ass because the server itself is lagging horribly..
WTF internet is that?
EPB.....1000 Download/1000 Upload for $69 a month in Chattanooga TN
Technically I could get 10000 Download/10000 Upload if I really wanted the fastest option... but its like $200 a month.
Oh and thought i'd add..I have no download caps...or upload caps..EPB doesn't think they're necessary.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
Why?
Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
Same old story.
Why is is suddenly going to improve?
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
Why?
Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
Same old story.
Why is is suddenly going to improve?
In Frozn's world, Cyrodiil's performance will improve when population drops down to +/- 30 people per faction after all the negative Nancy's (i.e anybody who is critical of the game) have left.
Who are you referring to? I moved over to BDO with a large number of people and I don't know of any that went back.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Lava_Croft wrote: »Doesn't look like ZOS has even the faintest clue of how loyal a community they have let down over the past two years.


jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
God_flakes wrote: »Every 3 months or so I check in here to see if people are still shaming Zos for ruining pvp a little more after each patch. It has become comedic how the comments remain the same every time. For two years.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »100,000 new copies last month alone.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »Ghost-Shot wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
No, BDO is a pay to win grinder. Niche market. That it drew so many away is not good either.
I guess I can just speak for me and mine, but we loved this game. Our guild lead waited years to play this game. We're not game hoppers, we wanted to make this game our home. But the fact remains that TWO YEARS have gone by and PvP playability has only gotten WORSE and it's gotten worse while hosting 1/10 the players it used to.
If I had the slightest hope they cared about PvP or had the ability/will to fix it id stay. But they haven't even shown us a glimmer.
PVP is going to take time to work out. Contrary to people here the lag has gotten better. 300-400ms latency to me is still unplayable. So if people are expecting a quick fix then thats going to be disappointing for them. I play with a lot of people out in cyrodill I never see 999+ latency. Personally I think its just a display error. If your latency really was that high then you would see nothing on the screen. Everything would just freeze and the game would log you out thinking you were disconnected.
1. Everything does freeze, people skip around on your screen and abilities don't fire, we all know what lag is so please don't act like you are going to enlighten all of us on how it works or what it is.
2. They have had 2 years to work out pvp and have consistently made performance worse with every update. I'll give them credit, 2.1 improved the lag over the *** show that was 1.6/2.0 but it has since gone downhill again. 2 years to resolve a problem and make a product you have already sold is never acceptable in any professional environment. The fact is they sold a product and failed to deliver what they sold for 2 years.
For the game not working you certainly have a lot of high ranking characters with a lot of PVP accomplishments... Just sayin.
I actually agree with you, even though you don't seem to have played this game when the ping would actually spike up to 1k-10k ms back in 1.6 meteor spam lag on flags. Since TG got released, my ping rarely goes above 700ms. It usually spikes that much when AD and DC are fighting each other between Roe and Ash. Otherwise, my latency got much better. Especially with 40+ players on the screen.. I still remember lagging up to 600ms with no battle happening, just having too many players in the same area. Thanks to the removal of several LoS checks and the optimisation of several large range buffs / abilities that were affecting tons of players creating load of useless calculations on the server.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it was a work in progress and only the beginning. I'm confident the latency will get only better in the weeks / months ahead.
Why?
Last night there were NO ball groups running just spread groups of people going back and forth between bleaks and Chal. Solid 700+ long.
Same old story.
Why is is suddenly going to improve?
In Frozn's world, Cyrodiil's performance will improve when population drops down to +/- 30 people per faction after all the negative Nancy's (i.e anybody who is critical of the game) have left.
Make my own words as much as you want, nobody but [snip] people running in 24men ballgroups who disagree with my opinion. I've said several times what populations should be at. They should be at what 3 bars actually is. Nothing more, nothing less. Suit yourself.
There is a difference between being critical, pessimist and not constructive and being critical, optimist and bring suggestions/proofs on the table.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »100,000 new copies last month alone.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »100,000 new copies last month alone.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/
No more need to doubt.
God_flakes wrote: »"Packed"? What does that even mean? Do you have some super secret knowledge about how many players were in a pve zone? The argument isn't so much the game is dying, as it is the pvp portion is a laggy craptastic mess. Those poor ad noobs will soon see for themselves.
jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »100,000 new copies last month alone.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/
No more need to doubt.
spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »100,000 new copies last month alone.jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »
Omg you have no idea how I've been waiting for this CU beta to come out. About freaking time. Finally the forums will get a lil bit more optimistic, realistic and grateful for the efforts made by the development team patch after patch. Will be much easier for ZOS to focus on relevant threads (such as the one you made reporting bugs with videos) rather than the million of negative threads like this one complaining but not helping at all.
The people leaving are the people who loved this game enough to stick it out through two years of nonsense and nearly unplayable lag. Them leaving is not s good thing.
Everyone was leavinbg for black desert online too remember? They all came back within a month. Same with CU. If they arent happy here I would be they wont be happy there either. Nothing is perfect. You have people who float from game to game like this and thats ok. You cant base your game on these guys tho.
Doubt.
Most people I know who started BDO stayed in BDO.
CU won't be any different.
You know why many people aren't happy in eso? Because zos doesn't seem to care and the game is in a crappy state since.. Ever.
PC: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/70799/the-elder-scrolls-online/
Xbox One: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/77052/the-elder-scrolls-online/
PS4: http://www.vgchartz.com/game/73109/the-elder-scrolls-online/
No more need to doubt.
Who gives a rats *** about how many units were sold, we all bought the game. The problem is the longevity.