High level players in lower level zones ruin the game.

TequilaFire · March 2016

Been awhile since this subject has come up, used to be a zillion threads on this.

i3ig_Gun · March 2016

Hey OP

Do you know how many HOURS I've spent in the first 2 zones helping lowbies take down world bosses, dolmens, quest bosses, and reviving them after I've let them battle it out to the death with a simple enemy?

Hundreds, just cause I was bored and wanted to spend my short playtime helping...

Running around with an inventory full of sets of gear, medium, light, and heavy with weapons just to hand them out...

try to QQ less and remember to try and see the light when your standing in the dark (IRL as well...)

SirAndy · March 2016

SeptimusDova wrote: »

Andy do you write those gif's on the fly?

@SeptimusDova

Nope, we got plenty of them on our guild website:
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newtinmpls · March 2016

Katahdin wrote: »

It comes down to common courtesy. If I'm on a character that is high above the zone, I deliberately use light attacks and let the lowbies do most of the work. I do more if it looks like the need help.

Same here.

I have a character that I've mostly leveled in IC and as I go though the zones for skill points and skyshards and questing, I have to be really careful because I'll overpower things without realizing. So I try to keep myself on "light attack only" restrictions.

Callous2208 · March 2016

I was about 100 over the Dolmen destroying achievement before that blasted eye would appear for me in Shadowfen. Good times, good times.

Acrolas · March 2016

Threads like this make me miss /letter and how I would run circles around dolmens playing my flute, which was really just my staff stabbed into my face.

Good times, good times.

Elsir · March 2016

Usually if I find myself at a dolmen in a zone I far out level, I tend to just throw Mutagen/Rapid Regen on the others doing it. In very low level zones, this simple act makes the low level participants basically invincible but doesn't affect their XP gain at all.

Tryxus · March 2016

So if I go to Glenumbra with my main, put on my Jester Costume and dance around on the fountain near the house where lvl 3 chars emerge in order to welcome them, I'm ruining the game?

Oliumzen · March 2016

I have a VR16 as well. Was grinding my level 6 char in Vivecs Antlers and along comes a vr6 sorc, streaking through everything i was running at. He tried saying if people would give him the raw hide scraps he would leave. I jumped into area chat and let him know he wasnt the only one farming the area. As i was grinding levels for my lowbie as well as mats for my VR16 i was kind of annoyed that he would streak through anything i was running towards. Once i let him know this he hung around for a little bit longer but, not much and eventually left. I understand your problem and agree its quite annoying. if they're doing something like that

CaptainBeerDude · March 2016

Resto staff + heal them. Does that work for getting you xp?

newtinmpls · March 2016

Tryxus wrote: »

So if I go to Glenumbra with my main, put on my Jester Costume and dance around on the fountain near the house where lvl 3 chars emerge in order to welcome them, I'm ruining the game?

Absolutely. That is Such a disturbing costume.

I suggest you roll up a cute buff dude, dress him up in the scanty pirate outfit, and greet newbie ladies.

Tryxus · March 2016

newtinmpls wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

So if I go to Glenumbra with my main, put on my Jester Costume and dance around on the fountain near the house where lvl 3 chars emerge in order to welcome them, I'm ruining the game?

Absolutely. That is Such a disturbing costume.

I suggest you roll up a cute buff dude, dress him up in the scanty pirate outfit, and greet newbie ladies.

Good idea

He'll be a buff Khajiit in a pirate costume, making the ladies swoon every time he says "This one", and handing out moon sugar candies

And he shall be named "Handsome-Purrs"

Elsonso · March 2016

I (foolishly) skipped a number of dolmens while I was leveling. I now go back and get them, and yeah, they are way easy. I try to do it when no one is around, but those dark anchors are big and noisy and tend to attract attention.

Danikat wrote: »

What if they added a down-levelling mechanic like Guild Wars 2 has?

In that game if you go into a low level area on a high level character you still have all your skills, equipment etc. but all your stats (including those from your equipment) are scaled down to be equal to a character at the appropriate level. The fact that you have more and better skills (plus some quirks of the scaling system I won't get into for the sake of post length) mean that you're still able to kill things more easily, but you can't go around one-shoting everything so low level players have a much better chance of gaining credit for participation.

Personally I think it's a great system but I'm aware some people don't like it (although I've never really understood why) and I don't know how easy it would be to implement. It might be something that needs to be built into the game from the start.

This has been suggested, and with battle leveling, they can do this. This would also allow them to open up the zones to all Alliances and eliminate the Cadwell zones, which are really nothing more than leveled versions of the base zones.

Volkodav · March 2016

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Abeille · March 2016

When I was doing the achievement for killing generals on my main, I tried to avoid disrupting lowbie's experience as much as I could.

I equipped a restoration staff, and stopped killing stuff in dolmens as soon as anyone showed up, healing the lowbies instead. I had a message ready at all times: "I am not here to disrupt your game, I'm just looking for generals for this achievement [linked achievement]".

Of course, if I was downscalled to the zone's level, that wouldn't be a problem.

starkerealm · March 2016

lordrichter wrote: »

This has been suggested, and with battle leveling, they can do this. This would also allow them to open up the zones to all Alliances and eliminate the Cadwell zones, which are really nothing more than leveled versions of the base zones.

To be fair, battle leveling is a bit... wonky. Dumping V16s into the pool with actual level 16s wouldn't really be as fair as it might sound, even with their stats nerfed down.

Recremen · March 2016

I had to do this 2 years ago to get the general slayer achievements, they were very possibly doing that. It sucks, but so does not being able to get the achievements in the vet zones. Hopefully the generals stopped by for them quickly and they were able to move on.

WalkingLegacy · March 2016

I hated the down leveling from GW2. I understand why they implemented it, but to do it just for dolmens would irritate the hell out of me.

xXNesTXx · March 2016

I paid 60 € when this game was launched in Ps4....and now I can't play in lower levels areas for not disturb the lower levels?? sure....

If higher levels are annoying for you, the next time, purchase the game and starts to play when the game starts.....

vontariel · March 2016

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

UrQuan · March 2016

vontariel wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

Because it's in a low-level zone. The people who are the appropriate level for the zone should be given precedence. Always. If you're not doing that, well you're not breaking any rules or doing anything ZOS will discipline you for, but you're being an enormous ***. Period.

In a scaled zone it doesn't matter. First come first serve. In a leveled zone, give consideration to those playing through at the appropriate level.

vontariel wrote: »

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

I guess the difference is that most of us are under the assumption that you should act like a decent human being who has some consideration for others. You clearly don't feel like you have any moral obligation to act like a decent person.

vontariel wrote: »

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Exactly my point. You shouldn't need someone to ask you to do the right thing. A decent human does the right thing regardless of being asked. If you're in a zone intended for low levels, then let the low levels experience it the way they're intended to. It's not rocket science.

vontariel wrote: »

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

lol and then you come up with this after going on about how it's perfectly OK for you to be a giant *** and treat other players like garbage... OK then buddy.

failkiwib16_ESO · March 2016

I remember it took me 3 weeks to get The Dremora Pirate in Grahtwood, back then the Grey Mire wayshrine did not lead up to Long Coast Dolmen, so I had to travel to Elden Root wayshrine and ride all the way down to the dolmen. And before those 3 weeks I spend 2 weeks grinding all dolmens in lower areas with a guild I was in... so I have done way more than 200 runs in Grahtwood to get that achievement.

I tried to back off a little, when I saw some lower levels try to do the dolmens - however I did participate in the fight if I saw a dolmen could take 10minutes or more, when I could finish it in 2. I let them get all the pinions though and as minimum a few hits on the bosses.

Btw. not all v16's have addons or know that they are stealing xp from low levels, when they kill enemies before them. Many of us v16's have been at endgame for so long, and not talked to or done any content or talked to non veterans, and when we level up a new char, we focus on the quests that helps us progress and grind the rest of the time. Of course not all vets do it this way, but a lot do.

rotaugen454 · March 2016

We high levels only need to get a shot in on the boss anyway. No need to ruin it for the low levels. I can get credit AND be helpful at the same time.

Jermu73 · March 2016

You know when there was bot army and farm everything that moves or not now that was something. Well atleast they didn't do dolmen's

vontariel · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

Because it's in a low-level zone. The people who are the appropriate level for the zone should be given precedence. Always. If you're not doing that, well you're not breaking any rules or doing anything ZOS will discipline you for, but you're being an enormous ***. Period.

In a scaled zone it doesn't matter. First come first serve. In a leveled zone, give consideration to those playing through at the appropriate level.

vontariel wrote: »

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

I guess the difference is that most of us are under the assumption that you should act like a decent human being who has some consideration for others. You clearly don't feel like you have any moral obligation to act like a decent person.

vontariel wrote: »

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Exactly my point. You shouldn't need someone to ask you to do the right thing. A decent human does the right thing regardless of being asked. If you're in a zone intended for low levels, then let the low levels experience it the way they're intended to. It's not rocket science.

vontariel wrote: »

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

lol and then you come up with this after going on about how it's perfectly OK for you to be a giant *** and treat other players like garbage... OK then buddy.

@UrQuan
I go with assumption that when you are referring to other human being you should treat them as you want to be treated. And decent human being does not start call other names just because he doesn't agree with him. Also when you are speaking about general politeness and in same paragraph you start to call other people names, you just sound like a hypocrite, and it does not exactly help to prove your point.

I don't agree with your point about special consideration for "optimally leveled for content" players. First of all by your logic, just because i had "right" level for zone, I`m more important than any other (lower/higher) player who happens to be there, and basically all my needs take precedence above those unlucky guys.

And one more thing:
As you said, decent human being does not have to be forced to act in decent way. Think about it.
There is no moral high ground for low level players against high level players. Or rather, no player is more important in any way than other.
Virtue and decency is when one acts from his own consideration, not when under any type of pressure.

UrQuan · March 2016

vontariel wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

Because it's in a low-level zone. The people who are the appropriate level for the zone should be given precedence. Always. If you're not doing that, well you're not breaking any rules or doing anything ZOS will discipline you for, but you're being an enormous ***. Period.

In a scaled zone it doesn't matter. First come first serve. In a leveled zone, give consideration to those playing through at the appropriate level.

vontariel wrote: »

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

I guess the difference is that most of us are under the assumption that you should act like a decent human being who has some consideration for others. You clearly don't feel like you have any moral obligation to act like a decent person.

vontariel wrote: »

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Exactly my point. You shouldn't need someone to ask you to do the right thing. A decent human does the right thing regardless of being asked. If you're in a zone intended for low levels, then let the low levels experience it the way they're intended to. It's not rocket science.

vontariel wrote: »

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

lol and then you come up with this after going on about how it's perfectly OK for you to be a giant *** and treat other players like garbage... OK then buddy.

@UrQuan
I go with assumption that when you are referring to other human being you should treat them as you want to be treated. And decent human being does not start call other names just because he doesn't agree with him. Also when you are speaking about general politeness and in same paragraph you start to call other people names, you just sound like a hypocrite, and it does not exactly help to prove your point.

I don't agree with your point about special consideration for "optimally leveled for content" players. First of all by your logic, just because i had "right" level for zone, I`m more important than any other (lower/higher) player who happens to be there, and basically all my needs take precedence above those unlucky guys.

And one more thing:
As you said, decent human being does not have to be forced to act in decent way. Think about it.
There is no moral high ground for low level players against high level players. Or rather, no player is more important in any way than other.
Virtue and decency is when one acts from his own consideration, not when under any type of pressure.

Oh please. Everything in your post is an excuse and a justification for why it's OK for you to act like a total ***. I'm not going to pussyfoot around and not call a spade a spade. Write a long post proving that you have no consideration for other people and you're going to get called on it.

Taleof2Cities · March 2016

rotaugen454 wrote: »

My VR16 sorc chases some of the achievements in low level zones. If I see other players at a dolmen (I am chasing the Molag Bal's Generals achievement), I switch to healing the others. I get a shot in at the boss (just enough to count) but help the other players instead of killing everything myself.

^This exactly.^

I do heals only as well in lower level zones where other players are present. It's just kind of an unwritten courtesy.

If you see a high level player one-shotting dolmen bosses (or anything else for that matter) ... be sure to send them a whisper. Sometimes they just need an FYI reminder that other players are around.

vontariel · March 2016

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

Because it's in a low-level zone. The people who are the appropriate level for the zone should be given precedence. Always. If you're not doing that, well you're not breaking any rules or doing anything ZOS will discipline you for, but you're being an enormous ***. Period.

In a scaled zone it doesn't matter. First come first serve. In a leveled zone, give consideration to those playing through at the appropriate level.

vontariel wrote: »

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

I guess the difference is that most of us are under the assumption that you should act like a decent human being who has some consideration for others. You clearly don't feel like you have any moral obligation to act like a decent person.

vontariel wrote: »

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Exactly my point. You shouldn't need someone to ask you to do the right thing. A decent human does the right thing regardless of being asked. If you're in a zone intended for low levels, then let the low levels experience it the way they're intended to. It's not rocket science.

vontariel wrote: »

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

lol and then you come up with this after going on about how it's perfectly OK for you to be a giant *** and treat other players like garbage... OK then buddy.

@UrQuan
I go with assumption that when you are referring to other human being you should treat them as you want to be treated. And decent human being does not start call other names just because he doesn't agree with him. Also when you are speaking about general politeness and in same paragraph you start to call other people names, you just sound like a hypocrite, and it does not exactly help to prove your point.

I don't agree with your point about special consideration for "optimally leveled for content" players. First of all by your logic, just because i had "right" level for zone, I`m more important than any other (lower/higher) player who happens to be there, and basically all my needs take precedence above those unlucky guys.

And one more thing:
As you said, decent human being does not have to be forced to act in decent way. Think about it.
There is no moral high ground for low level players against high level players. Or rather, no player is more important in any way than other.
Virtue and decency is when one acts from his own consideration, not when under any type of pressure.

Oh please. Everything in your post is an excuse and a justification for why it's OK for you to act like a total ***. I'm not going to pussyfoot around and not call a spade a spade. Write a long post proving that you have no consideration for other people and you're going to get called on it.

Don't judge others by your caliber. I don't (any many people too) need additional rules and terms to act like decent person And disagreeing with giving anyone special status or excuse for special treatment is not justification for acting like an ***.
I put it more bluntly if you need it: Every player is equal. No one is more (or less) important than others. No special treatment for anyone. No privilege just because you are <any adjective>.
And if someone will act as an ***, there will come a day when he reap what he sow.

driosketch · March 2016

Bulljoker wrote: »

he's probably trying to get achievement for bosses at Dark anchors

Which you can get by standing off to the side and tagging the general if one spawns. Same for getting clear credit, which due to what can drop in a chest, is the only reason you go to a dolman more than 5 levels under you.

UrQuan · March 2016

vontariel wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

vontariel wrote: »

Volkodav wrote: »

Oldmanlawlor wrote: »

There are in game achievements for completing all dolems.

As dolems respawn very quickly, you really have no reason to complain. Just go back to it in ten minutes, or, be greatful for the quick clear. The XP is a handful of individual mobs is nothing on the XP you get for that high level player killing the Dolmen. That player would also get no chest, but you would.

So... Yeah...

V16 players should hold back if they see a bunch of lower level players getting ready to go it.Period.Let THEM wait 10 minutes.Let the vet wait for the Dolmen to respawn.They are only one,and if they come along and take it fron a group of lower level players that's kinda rude.
Why should lower level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Just askin.

Why should the higher level players be the ones to wait for a Dolmen?
Is hlvl player time less important than low-lvl ones, and that's the reason they have to wait?
Why you think low-lvl XP is more important than hlvl achivement?

Because it's in a low-level zone. The people who are the appropriate level for the zone should be given precedence. Always. If you're not doing that, well you're not breaking any rules or doing anything ZOS will discipline you for, but you're being an enormous ***. Period.

In a scaled zone it doesn't matter. First come first serve. In a leveled zone, give consideration to those playing through at the appropriate level.

vontariel wrote: »

And even if there is a group of low-lvls, what is exact reason why hlvl should wait - argumentum ad numerum?

Sorry, but just because I can wait, does not mean that I should or especially have to wait.

I guess the difference is that most of us are under the assumption that you should act like a decent human being who has some consideration for others. You clearly don't feel like you have any moral obligation to act like a decent person.

vontariel wrote: »

If someone have asked me, i'd probably wait, or just do only minimal amount for achivement to trigger.
But it's only my own choice to be polite in that particular situation. Next time I can simply ignore request and there would be nothing wrong with it.

Exactly my point. You shouldn't need someone to ask you to do the right thing. A decent human does the right thing regardless of being asked. If you're in a zone intended for low levels, then let the low levels experience it the way they're intended to. It's not rocket science.

vontariel wrote: »

Level is just a number, what is important is human behind that character. Treat others how you'd like to be treated.

lol and then you come up with this after going on about how it's perfectly OK for you to be a giant *** and treat other players like garbage... OK then buddy.

@UrQuan
I go with assumption that when you are referring to other human being you should treat them as you want to be treated. And decent human being does not start call other names just because he doesn't agree with him. Also when you are speaking about general politeness and in same paragraph you start to call other people names, you just sound like a hypocrite, and it does not exactly help to prove your point.

I don't agree with your point about special consideration for "optimally leveled for content" players. First of all by your logic, just because i had "right" level for zone, I`m more important than any other (lower/higher) player who happens to be there, and basically all my needs take precedence above those unlucky guys.

And one more thing:
As you said, decent human being does not have to be forced to act in decent way. Think about it.
There is no moral high ground for low level players against high level players. Or rather, no player is more important in any way than other.
Virtue and decency is when one acts from his own consideration, not when under any type of pressure.

Oh please. Everything in your post is an excuse and a justification for why it's OK for you to act like a total ***. I'm not going to pussyfoot around and not call a spade a spade. Write a long post proving that you have no consideration for other people and you're going to get called on it.

Don't judge others by your caliber. I don't (any many people too) need additional rules and terms to act like decent person

Apparently you do need additional rules and terms to act like a decent person, because you spent an entire long post justifying why it's OK for you to act like a selfish *** rather than treating other players with respect. And then you had the gall to finish it off with a hypocritical "treat others the way you want to be treated".

vontariel wrote: »

And disagreeing with giving anyone special status or excuse for special treatment is not justification for acting like an ***.

There are lots of ways for high level players to get their achievements without interfering with players who are at the level those areas are intended for. You choosing to disrupt their gameplay and make sure that they don't have any fun rather than show them some basic respect is the definition of acting like a ***. And no matter how much you try to justify it as "oh I just don't think they need special treatment just because the zone is intended for them and not for me" you're still just justifying being a selfish ***.

vontariel wrote: »

I put it more bluntly if you need it: Every player is equal. No one is more (or less) important than others. No special treatment for anyone. No privilege just because you are <any adjective>.
And if someone will act as an ***, there will come a day when he reap what he sow.

Yes, and you're being called on it right now.