Would you support the servers going down for a couple weeks for hardware upgrades/bug fixes?

zyk · March 2016

No

Doncellius wrote: »

@zyk

Netcode = How the Client-side (you) and Server-side (ZOS) communicate with each other.

It used to be perfectly fine, allowing huge battles and everything to happen without gamebreaking lag and a lot of bugs. When that patch came out performance totally died, and most agree the Netcode has been tampered with in a really sloppy manner.

Reworking netcode to communicate efficiently is the only way Cyrodiil server can improve. Going back to working efficiently, which it no longer can.

Taking down the servers would allow ZOS to solely work on Cyrodill Performance aka netcode (like a 14-day maintenance) and fix it.

Sigh. I know what netcode is. And in fact, it's not even the netcode that needs to be improved. The lag we experience is primarily server processing lag. But let's not argue that. PLEASE. let's just call it netcode. Whatever.

I don't know how to explain this any more clearly. Taking down the servers for an extended period of time is in no way a necessary nor beneficial step in the process of improving any part of the codebase of ESO. Client/Server/Netcode/Whatever. All of that can be improved while the current version of the software continues to operate.

When the software is successfully improved, it is then deployed the same way all patches are; varying according to their magnitude. No software or hardware update will ever require ESO to be shutdown for an extended period of time.

Malmai · March 2016

Yes

Zenimax stop ignoring LAG and do something about it! We can't be optimistic if all we get is "radio silence".

@ZOS_GinaBruno , @ZOS_JessicaFolsom , @ZOS_RichLambert , @ZOS_BrianWheeler

Mojmir · March 2016

Yes

Kammakazi wrote: »

Yes.

It would allow people to:
Be more productive

Go outside

Talk to their SO

Expand their game library

SO- sanctum ophidia? Yea maybe i do need to go out more

R1ckyDaMan · March 2016

No

With this teams record the servers would re-open with double the bugs and loads more lag!

Vaoh · March 2016

Yes

@zyk You can argue it wouldn't work any way you want man. PvPers have noticed the painful effects of when a single patched caused these issues. Horrible designer decisions (ex: AoE Caps) and ruined netcode cause unbareable lag.

Not sure why you wouldn't like ZOS to take down the servers for a bit so they can put other things aside and focus on this problem. I'm confident they can make this happen.

Remember, that is what the poll is representative of. We are assuming ZOS could actually improve/fix Cyrodiil Performance.

zyk · March 2016

No

Doncellius wrote: »

Not sure why you wouldn't like ZOS to take down the servers for a bit so they can put other things aside and focus on this problem. I'm confident they can make this happen.

Because it can't possibly help!!!! GAH.

*head explodes*

Edit: This poll might as well ask "If blowing up the moon would improve performance should zos do it?" It's just as relevant a question.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Csj7vMKy4EI

Thornen · March 2016

No

It doesn't take any half competent company more than 24hrs max on average to do hardware upgrades. A few weeks is just as stupid as this straw poll.

crislevin · March 2016

No

They made hundreds of millions of dollars, they don't need couple of weeks. Your assumptions are false.

Sausage · March 2016

No

I think forum shutdown for 2 week or 2 month would be much better idea, even 2 days would do it for some imho.

Garldeen · March 2016

The negative pr of doing this would kill the game regarding future sales

Tandor · March 2016

No

I haven't personally encountered any issues at all but even if there are some that require hardware upgrades, it's quite normal for that to be completed in a day or two at most. There's no justification in taking servers down for a couple of weeks.

Oldmanlawlor · March 2016

No

If the servers went down for a 'couple of weeks', could you imagine the money they would have to compensate players with active ESO plus? But anyway, I doubt they would legally be able to just shut the game down for a while seeing as we actually paid for it. It's not quite the same as dropping your car back to the garage for a repair.

If the game was unavailable for more than two or three days and it was ZOS's 'fault' (I use the world 'fault' loosely) a vast amount of players would stop playing.

babylon · March 2016

No

Must be a lot of people who don't have a sub voting here.

Moonshadow66 · March 2016

Yes

If it helps, then yes, I'd definitely support it.

acw37162 · March 2016

No

You don't have to take down the game for weeks, to replace hardware upgrade software.

The most you would need would be two to four days and that would only be in the care of a catastrophic failure which they did not have contingency plans.

Depending on how many servers need to be replaced/upgraded with proper planning and personnel could be worked out in about a months worth of normal Maintence schedules with extra days down time.

If you wanted to loose 15 - 35 % of the player base, yeah shut the fame down for two to three weeks.

Lord knows I would have moved on by then and I used to play every day, with the servers working even that is dwindling.

Toxic_Hemlock · March 2016

No

^ sorry, but they have a PTS for this (and other) reasons. If they need to make adjustments to make the game playable for the average person they need to make changes there and then implement them on live if possible.

nemo284b16_ESO · March 2016

No

People would move on to other games in the meanwhile and only the die hard fans would return when it was back online. Imagine the financial lost on that. I doubt the game would survive such a thing.

DannyLV702 · March 2016

No

Few days maybe.

Anzriel · March 2016

Yes

I said yes under a few circumstances:
1. It actually fixes lag (it wouldn't)
2. Subs were frozen so we still got our game time
3. Significant bug improvements not just small piddly things
4. The optimization isn't just Cyrodiil and is game-wide.

That being said that's all pretty much never going to happen, so under dream circumstances yes, in reality this will never happen.

anitajoneb17_ESO · March 2016

You could do *anything* with "what if"...

And this is not realistic anyway : several weeks of downtime would mean people would play something else during that time and potentially get "hooked" by that other game and never come back to ESO.
MMOs rely partly on our "addictive" behaviour : forced "withdrawal" would be suicidal for the game.

Lolssi · March 2016

No

What issues? Don't have any..with ESO I mean.

Samphaa · March 2016

No

I think they'd feel rushed to try and fix too much and probably end up breaking more things without having it tested properly. There's so many thousands of combinations in eso, it's incredibly complex, I don't think we'll ever get to a stage where everything is perfect, and even if we did, another patch brings more complexity and loads more work to integrate that with what already exists.

Docmandu · March 2016

No

Stupid question as anyone with some technical knowledge would know that wouldn't be required even if hardware was the issue.

NativeJoe · March 2016

Yes

Considering What the world looks like to me routinely...and how completing the new trial on normal was HORRIBLE... (Not because of how difficult it was, but because we had people dropping like flies because of crashes every single moment of the fight)

Literally~ Take a look.
https://www.twitch.tv/trixytricks/v/54541744
http://i.imgur.com/S5I4v79.png
http://i.imgur.com/530g6jv.png
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http://i.imgur.com/kXIk97Q.png
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http://i.imgur.com/w1dTAg5.png
http://i.imgur.com/MhYMNUZ.png
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http://i.imgur.com/0en8lVu.png
http://i.imgur.com/IGOZZMw.png
http://i.imgur.com/0zBIZvD.png

And it doesn't stop there. I don't have Wayshrines in pvp (cannot teleport from keep to keep), the server instability is ridicules... I mean I literally was on stage 5 round 9 and crashed. there went my score <.< ...was enough to make me throw my keyboard. completing the new trial is nearly impossible with these glitches. now that they made new "unpopular CP-less campaigns everyone is shoved together on the other servers and we have a situation where ping is almost always 300-900) and afk guilds are literally showing up to undermine the spirit of pvp ( 40 players get on alts and sit in highrock to make sure we don't have pop cap numbers while we're zerged down outside)

in short... I'm almost done with this game. I can't pve, I can't pvp. what am I supposed to do?

Vifen · March 2016

No

ZOS_PaulSage wrote: »

Hello everyone,

Our Cyrodiil performance is something we are very aware of. Performance drags when there are numerous players in the same place at the same time. This is why performance in Cyrodiil is fine for much of the day, but gets worse during more popular times. We are currently investigating ways in which we can reduce the spike of performance loss. We added in some features for Update 6 which we hoped would help, but ultimately did not. This is not a situation where we can just add more hardware. Player population in a given area hurts the performance and the more people that are in one area, the more performance is going to be hurt.

Here, Paul Sage on
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/157157/update-on-cyrodiil-performance/p20

" This is not a situation where we can just add more hardware."

Volkodav · March 2016

No

Not unless I was compensated for my sub time down.It costs money.My game is fine.I have no real problems.
So,nope.

Volkodav · March 2016

No

Wolfshead wrote: »

@Valkas
@Judas Helviaryn

I just make sure that people are aware if this that was all

Honestly it is sad that ESO do have this problems for game is really nice to bad people cant enjoy game for those problem ESO have

I'm a long time player and I enjoy the he-ll out of this game just as it is.So,dont think "people" cant play it.Some have problems,but there is a whole lot of us who are fine with it.

ContraTempo · March 2016

No

It's like suggesting that we all quit using our PCs for a couple of weeks so Microsoft can fix their bugs.

myrrrorb14_ESO · March 2016

No

Even assuming it would fix all the problems, I say no. I start getting the Shakes after 16 hours and after that long of a break I will have moved on to my next addiction.

But hardware isn't the problem and even if it was it doesn't take that long. I assume their coding is messed up and would need to be rebuilt from the ground up. Nobody has time and ZOS does not have the resources for that.

medusasfolly · March 2016

No

In this day and age, there should be no reason what so ever to go offline for 2 weeks to fix problems. If it's bugs, the developers can develop while current version is up and running. If it's servers, then they should be spinning up new a new environment and then migrating the system over when they figure out what the problem is. I can't imagine anyone keeping their IT job if they actually did something like this.