Would you support the servers going down for a couple weeks for hardware upgrades/bug fixes?

Valkas

Title.

*Assuming that hardware WOULD help the problem, along with halting DB for however long it takes to fix current issues*

Molag_Crow

Yes

Definitely, but I think they wouldn't dare do it because the average player would be outraged, despite it being for their own good.

Reapor

No

if i got my eso sub paused till they came back up

Valkas

Yes

Exactly, this game can be so amazing! Just needs some TLC

Kammakazi

Yes

Yes.

It would allow people to:

1. Be more productive
2. Go outside
3. Talk to their SO
4. Expand their game library

Judas Helviaryn

No

Unless it's to fix some truly game breaking problems like the ever-present lag in Cyrodiil, (which seems way too complex to be fixed in two weeks), any minor bugs or problems, and quite a few major ones, can be played through until patch day. There's no need to drop the playerbase on its head for an extended amount of time if even the smallest fraction (of paying customers) is against it.

I'm no market analyst, but even 20% of the current population is a huge chunk of revenue to potentially throw away for one bug-fixing session.

Valkas

Yes

Of course Judas, I'm voting yes assuming that a hardware upgrade and a couple weeks, along with the removal of AoE caps, even testing that on PTS before the downtime, would fix the lag

zyk

No

ZOS has already explained throwing more hardware at performance issues won't fix them. And taking down the servers doesn't help engineers fix bugs.

I don't know why some people seem to think taking the game offline for a while will help anything. Do you think it needs a rest?

Valkas

Yes

I think that hardware can play a huge role. And perhaps if that is true, they can work on the lag, bugs, and other performance issues and stop working on the DB update until the current issues are mostly resolved, assuming that they are not doing so already.

mr1sho

Yes

This needs to be done this game servers are running on a hamster wheel

Wolfshead

Well i have hade many of those problem you guys are talk about but after i purchase new computer which i would have done anyway in about 4 months for my old one was over 10 year old most off my problem with same problem you guys talk about lag and loading just went away.

Thing is that ZoS have change the Recommended System Requirements so if i was you i would check up if my system still can run ESO

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3313

Valkas

Yes

@Wolfshead I wish that was the problem, I'm running 2 980's and a skylake at 4.4ghz, 16gb ram...etc..

Judas Helviaryn

No

Wolfshead wrote: »

Well i have hade many of those problem you guys are talk about but after i purchase new computer which i would have done anyway in about 4 months for my old one was over 10 year old most off my problem with same problem you guys talk about lag and loading just went away.

Thing is that ZoS have change the Recommended System Requirements so if i was you i would check up if my system still can run ESO

https://help.elderscrollsonline.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/3313

I have had the same performance network-wise on my 2012 rig as I do on my 2006 rig. Your hardware does not affect lag (network lag, the only kind of lag). We're all well aware of the requirement changes.

Vaoh

Yes

No one on the forums has absolute 100% faith in ZOS anymore regarding these issues. However, I am sure most have some faith left. If they pulled the servers down for a few weeks saying they would fix it, I would have complete faith/respect in them for doing so.

I believe the lag and many bugs lay within the horrific mess of Net Code that they neglected when implementing the Anti-Bot aka "Lighting" Patch.

Fix Cyrodiil = get hundreds of thousands of new players when word quickly gets out, and make more money than you ever would today by not pissing people off.

Wolfshead

@Valkas
@Judas Helviaryn

I just make sure that people are aware if this that was all

Honestly it is sad that ESO do have this problems for game is really nice to bad people cant enjoy game for those problem ESO have

Valkas

Yes

Doncellius wrote: »

No one on the forums has absolute 100% faith in ZOS anymore regarding these issues. However, I am sure most have some faith left. If they pulled the servers down for a few weeks saying they would fix it, I would have complete faith/respect in them for doing so.

I believe the lag and many bugs lay within the horrific mess of Net Code that they neglected when implementing the Anti-Bot aka "Lighting" Patch.

Fix Cyrodiil = get hundreds of thousands of new players when word quickly gets out, and make more money than you ever would today by not pissing people off.

I 100% agree with you. If that were to happen and word got out, ZOS would gain a ton of faith and respect from the playerbase and potential buyers!

zyk

No

Doncellius wrote: »

No one on the forums has absolute 100% faith in ZOS anymore regarding these issues. However, I am sure most have some faith left. If they pulled the servers down for a few weeks saying they would fix it, I would have complete faith/respect in them for doing so.

I believe the lag and many bugs lay within the horrific mess of Net Code that they neglected when implementing the Anti-Bot aka "Lighting" Patch.

Fix Cyrodiil = get hundreds of thousands of new players when word quickly gets out, and make more money than you ever would today by not pissing people off.

How would taking the servers down help at all? Why would this give you faith? It makes no sense at all.

Vanady

No

How should I survive that? XD

Probably It wouldn't even help.

olsborg

Yes

Well im already on the fence wether to just uninstall the game or not, so 2 weeks off for a more or less flawless gaming experience would be all good imo.

jbcrocks

Yes

I doubt they would.

phairdon

Yes

Kammakazi wrote: »

Yes.

It would allow people to:

1. Be more productive
2. Go outside
3. Talk to their SO
4. Expand their game library

What's this outside you speak of?

JadeNaria

Yes

My Better Business Bureau complaint stated that exact solution, so yes. That is of course right after this company removed my thread.

Vaoh

Yes

@zyk Really? You could start by attempting to read the poll. It would tell you why taking the servers down gives me/others faith....

Taking down the servers would imply that they would fix their Netcode, the source of the lag and only reason it even exists without 200+ player battles. I would love for them to do this and solely work on fixing ESO so the PvP is returned to the days of no lag. Hundreds of thousands of players would come back when word gets out IF they are smart enough to do this! You simply don't sell your game on the premise of massive, flawless PvP only to purposely screw it up then IGNORE it.

This practise makes it possible for guilds of 500 members to only have 12 online players at a time...

Ruben

No

Neither downtime nor new hardware can fix people doing things to create lag like extremely big zerg balls in a single spot or skill spamming just for the purpose of creating lag (does anyone remember how Meteor became the most used ultimate in PvP when people realized it lagged the server?).

The problem is people, not hardware.

zyk

No

Doncellius wrote: »

@zyk Really? You could start by attempting to read the poll. It would tell you why taking the servers down gives me/others faith....

Taking down the servers would imply that they would fix their Netcode, the source of the lag and only reason it even exists without 200+ player battles. I would love for them to do this and solely work on fixing ESO so the PvP is returned to the days of no lag. Hundreds of thousands of players would come back when word gets out IF they are smart enough to do this! You simply don't sell your game on the premise of massive, flawless PvP only to purposely screw it up then IGNORE it.

Do you not understand that the improving the netcode is completely unrelated to whether or not the current version of the game is operating? There is no conceivable scenario in which taking down the servers for an extended period of time can be beneficial in any way.

No amount of editing the original post changes this.

When/if ZOS improves Cyrodiil server performance, it will take as long as any other patch to implement.

Vaoh

Yes

@Ruben Right now it only takes 6-8 people who know what they're doing to lag the ENTIRE server. Would you not like it better if it instead took 60+?

Here I was thinking this would be a good thing, that everyone wants PvP lag fixed...silly me lol.

Ruben

No

Doncellius wrote: »

@Ruben Right now it only takes 6-8 people who know what they're doing to lag the ENTIRE server. Would you not like it better if it instead took 60+?

Here I was thinking this would be a good thing, that everyone wants PvP lag fixed...silly me lol.

Throwing hardware at a problem is almost never the best (or even correct) solution.

FriedEggSandwich

No

A couple of weeks?! Nope. 3 days at the most. I don't believe the main issue is hardware anyway, I think it's very poorly optimised software.

Sugaroverdose

No

Valkas wrote: »

Title.

*Assuming that hardware WOULD help the problem, along with halting DB for however long it takes to fix current issues*

With the money what ZOS does get from this game, they don't need to shutoff servers, replace pieces etc.
Moreover, time to time they claim that they use "private cloud", so replacing servers node by node should not require any downtime.

But i agree to suffer from "new physics engine" bugs which @ZOS_BrianWheeler mentioned, than from actual lags and bugs related to them.

Vaoh

Yes

@zyk

Netcode = How the Client-side (you) and Server-side (ZOS) communicate with each other.

It used to be perfectly fine, allowing huge battles and everything to happen without gamebreaking lag and a lot of bugs. When that patch came out performance totally died, and most agree the Netcode has been tampered with in a really sloppy manner.

Reworking netcode to communicate efficiently is the only way Cyrodiil server can improve. Going back to working efficiently, which it no longer can.

Taking down the servers would allow ZOS to solely work on Cyrodill Performance aka netcode (like a 14-day maintenance) and fix it.

Vaoh

Yes

@Ruben People balling up is due to ZOS implemting AoE Caps. It is a buff that says "stack as close as possible for 75+% decreased damage taken.

Removing AoE caps would cause less lag. However, it is underlying issues that cause lag, not just player activity.

It would be pretty difficult with the severely decreased server populations to cause lag if ZOS's Cyrodiil servers worked as efficiently as they used to.... before the Lighting Patch turned into a mess.