lolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »

Let me show you my magicka nb as example, then you can see, where you have differences.

Naked, with 64 attribute points in magicka, 484cp, altmer racials and blue health + magicka bufffood:
25.365 magicka, 15683 hp, 750 magicka reg, 0 spell damage
Add 5 piece julianus, 3 piece will power, 2 piece kena, 2 piece torugs pact, all arcane / divines v16 with legendary magicka / spell damage enchantments, heavy chest, medium head, rest light, all armour related passives skilled:
38322 magicka, 16632 hp, 871 magicka reg, 2851 spell damage
Add usuall skillbar: 2 asassination skills, inner light, 1 siphoning skill, 1 shadow skill:
43278 magicka, 17094 hp, 883 magicka reg, 2851 spell damage
Add spell power potion, molag kena proc, agressive warhorn:
46582 magicka, 18662 hp, 1004 magicka reg, 4026 spell damage

I hope this helps. If you want me to split it up even more, just ask.

Posted this on another thread some time ago, but it might help you aswell to get your desired numbers.

If you have your cp in thaumaturge, you should change them to elemental expert. Before the patch thaumaturge increased magic damage, now elemental expert does the job.

I currently have 43486 magicka on my magblade.

1. Character attributes: 64 points into magicka.
2. Jewelry attributes: 3x VR16 Arcane jewelry
3. Armor enchantments: 7x VR16 Kuta max magicka enchantments
4. Set bonuses: 967 from VR16 gold Julianos, 1400 from VR16 purple Willpower
5. Undaunted bonus: 6% max magicka from 5/1/1 gear and max Undaunted passives.
6. Mages Guild bonus: 7% max magicka from slotting Inner Light (5% from skill, 2% from MG passive).
7. Class bonus: 8% max magicka from slotting Siphoning skill.
8. Racial bonus: 10% max magicka from Breton passives.
9. CP bonus: 19% max magicka from the number of allocated blue points (I'm at CP cap, so that's 167^0.58).
10. Food: 4936 (not affected by any % bonuses).

mages guild... read the passives there and a siphoning ability... it is always about the passives dude

Autolycus wrote: »

Baranthus wrote: »

40k magicka pool? OH REALLY. Shut up.

Ok just kidding but seriously how do you do it? I'm on PC - dunno if that makes a difference? I'm super proud that I finally have all gold gear - it's taken me from beta until now lol. But I'm running 5 piece Julianos, 1 Kena shoulder, Torugs hat and detro/restro staves. Proper will power neclace with gold spell damage enchant. Crappy willpower rings (basic enchants).

I don't do pledges very often so I don't have the undaunted armour passive yet.

Another thing - until the TG update, I could get 21.5k Assassins will and 19.5k Impale. Those scores have now dropped to 18.6(ish)k and 16.5k respectively - even though my gear has gotten better. Could it be because of the changes to CP? infact what should I put my CP into? I have 330 in total (110 each, obvs).

I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out so if anyone can help, please do

Having Arcane jewelry will make a noticeable difference.

How are your attributes allocated? You should have the vast majority of your points into magicka, with only as many points into health as you need to avoid getting 1shot (usually the benchmark is around 17-18k max health in pve for a dps).

Run Inner Light on both of your bars for the 7% max magicka (2% from mage guild passive, 5% from Inner morph).

Considering your destro/resto setup, here's the bar I recommend:
Bar 1 - Inner Light, Crippling Grasp, Swallow Soul, Impale, Merciless Resolve | Ice Comet
Bar 2 - Inner Light, Sap Essence, Twisting Path, <your choice>, Siphoning Attacks | Soul Harvest or DB of Smiting

Are you using vr15 max health, max magicka food? How many CP do you have allocated?

Your mundus is good. Is all of your gear divines? In some cases it is optimal to have one or two infused pieces, but only if they are on either pants, chest or helm.

As a point of reference, I'd like to give you the average numbers I see for Assassin's Will and Impale too, since you're already using these as a benchmark. Without any buffs (only food) I have almost 2900 SP (I think it's like 2890 ish) and 41k max magicka. I play a Breton NB, except my primary role is tank, so I have like 30 points into health still. Basically what that means is you can get to 40k without being a magicka race. Fully buffed with kena, SPC and major sorcery, I have 4100 SD, and still 41k max magicka. The average crit on my Assassin's Will is 35k (but on one rare occurrence I hit 63k with empower & war horn, all procs all buffs). Impale consistently crits for 30k during burn phase.

For PvP do you run impen or divines or what? Teach me the path to gloriousness.

LBxFinalDeath wrote: »

If you run sets that give extra magicka its extremely easy tbh...and you'll fly past 40K.

If you maximize spell damage but want that high of a magicka pool?

Breton+Inner Light+Blue food+NB passives being taken advantage of.

Run magicka enchantments on all your gear with the gear also being divines (to get more spell dmg)

Oh and willpower jewelry with spell dmg enchants.

Oh and dual wield.

Fully buffed you'll have more than 4100 spell dmg by quite a bit.

You'll be shy of 3K by 30 points of spell damage or so unbuffed which Is sort of mid-maxed for unbuffed spell dmg I think for a Magblade.

Or well thats how I run it and I'm relatively new to being a Magblade despite being a Breton NB since I started playing.

Only ever really have a problem if I run into a bonified tank DK thats stacked into magicka dmg reduction, other than that I can blow 'em up rather easily and if they survive a few concealed blades'll finish them.

Throw crippling on them and fear every chance you get, easy kill

Slot a Siphoning ability and use Magelight. It's possible with any race then.

Junkogen wrote: »

Autolycus wrote: »

Baranthus wrote: »

40k magicka pool? OH REALLY. Shut up.

Ok just kidding but seriously how do you do it? I'm on PC - dunno if that makes a difference? I'm super proud that I finally have all gold gear - it's taken me from beta until now lol. But I'm running 5 piece Julianos, 1 Kena shoulder, Torugs hat and detro/restro staves. Proper will power neclace with gold spell damage enchant. Crappy willpower rings (basic enchants).

I don't do pledges very often so I don't have the undaunted armour passive yet.

Another thing - until the TG update, I could get 21.5k Assassins will and 19.5k Impale. Those scores have now dropped to 18.6(ish)k and 16.5k respectively - even though my gear has gotten better. Could it be because of the changes to CP? infact what should I put my CP into? I have 330 in total (110 each, obvs).

I'm pulling my hair out trying to figure it out so if anyone can help, please do

Having Arcane jewelry will make a noticeable difference.

How are your attributes allocated? You should have the vast majority of your points into magicka, with only as many points into health as you need to avoid getting 1shot (usually the benchmark is around 17-18k max health in pve for a dps).

Run Inner Light on both of your bars for the 7% max magicka (2% from mage guild passive, 5% from Inner morph).

Considering your destro/resto setup, here's the bar I recommend:
Bar 1 - Inner Light, Crippling Grasp, Swallow Soul, Impale, Merciless Resolve | Ice Comet
Bar 2 - Inner Light, Sap Essence, Twisting Path, <your choice>, Siphoning Attacks | Soul Harvest or DB of Smiting

Are you using vr15 max health, max magicka food? How many CP do you have allocated?

Your mundus is good. Is all of your gear divines? In some cases it is optimal to have one or two infused pieces, but only if they are on either pants, chest or helm.

As a point of reference, I'd like to give you the average numbers I see for Assassin's Will and Impale too, since you're already using these as a benchmark. Without any buffs (only food) I have almost 2900 SP (I think it's like 2890 ish) and 41k max magicka. I play a Breton NB, except my primary role is tank, so I have like 30 points into health still. Basically what that means is you can get to 40k without being a magicka race. Fully buffed with kena, SPC and major sorcery, I have 4100 SD, and still 41k max magicka. The average crit on my Assassin's Will is 35k (but on one rare occurrence I hit 63k with empower & war horn, all procs all buffs). Impale consistently crits for 30k during burn phase.

For PvP do you run impen or divines or what? Teach me the path to gloriousness.

I wouldn't necessarily use the term "gloriousness"... I do pretty well in pvp but I try not to boast about it, because there are lots of players whom I'm sure could take me to task. Those numbers aren't for Cyrodiil btw, those were PvE quotes, but I'm happy to share my setup. My gear is 5 Julianos (legendary, all divines), 2 Molag Kena (I think one is Infused b/c RNG), 3 Willpower, and vMA Destro. On my off-bar I use a legendary Master's resto, for lack of a better option atm. I don't bother with Impen... I've found my setup to be sufficiently survivable so I prefer not to change from divines + shadow.

It seems to work pretty well; I "gank bait" people a lot. Most of the time I keep my double-take active and as soon as someone tries to gank I concealed weapon + dawnbreaker. It usually tears gankers apart. The best part about having such high SD is that concealed weapon makes for an incredibly effective close-range damage option, and is particularly useful in duels against DKs who use Reflective Scales. Every time I see those flappy wings go up, I quickly close distance into melee and do something like Sap + Soul Harvest + Concealed Weapon, and it's proven to be quite effective, even against tanks.

I also don't run max magicka food in Cyrodiil, instead I prefer Orzorga's for max health + recoveries, so I end up with something like 38k magicka. I don't change up my gear for pvp vs. pve. I've found that whenever I try to make a new build or gear setup for pvp specifically, I end up making a mess of it. I play much better in pvp with my pve gear. Usually in this setup I can get a 5:1 K/D or better. Lately the lag and frames in Cyrodiil has been absolutely horrendous, so I've been playing it less (because I can barely move, constantly getting d/c'd). In an hour or two I can usually make 100+ kills with <20 deaths.

For pvp:
Bar 1 (vMA Destro): Fear, Cripple, Swallow Soul, Impale, Merciless Resolve, Soul Harvest
Bar 2 (Master's Resto): Double Take, Sap, Concealed Weapon, Healing Ward, Agony, DB of Smiting

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Only way to reach the 4k Sd mark is with alchemist.

Not necessarily. I have 4.1k SD (without SPC) using the setup I described above. I wouldn't get rid of julianos for alchemist (despite how awesome it is) because I don't feel it's optimal. In order to build for alchemist and have the same stats as Julianos, you have to use potion cooldown glyphs on all 3 jewelry pieces and compensate for the loss of SD still with weapon enchants (which don't exist for SD). With Julianos you can put SD glyphs on all three jewelry pieces and get higher total SD. Alchemist is an awesome set and is great for pvp, but I still believe Julianos is better.