Marktoneth3 wrote: »

But then again we have Dragon knight.

Mythical Beast, Real Powers

Drusus Ovicula, Proctor of the Imperial Library wrote:

In the generations since the fall of the Akaviri Potentates, a new martial tradition has arisen in Tamriel, one which bears all the hallmarks of a coherent magical discipline, though it is said to be descended from the powers of the legendary Dragons and those mortals who fought them. I refer, of course, to the so-called "Dragon Knights."

Whether or not their abilities originated from Dragons—and you must give me leave to doubt it, for no Dragons have been seen in Tamriel for thousands of years, if they ever existed at all—the powers which a skilled Dragon Knight can deploy are undeniable. There are several right here in the Imperial City, members of the Tower Guard, and they have demonstrated some of their effects at my request.

One of these Dragon Knights, a sergeant in the Guard, showed me how he could wreathe himself in flame without being burned (though I could feel the heat from several paces away). He then cast a loop of flaming chain around a target dummy and drew it to him, where it was quickly immolated. Finally, one of his subordinates burned another target dummy by literally breathing fire upon it!

I was impressed. It was almost enough to make one believe in Dragons.

Because they're too big to fit in the bank.

Xendyn wrote: »

Because they're too big to fit in the bank.

That's it! We need bigger banks!

Oh wait, I forgot I'm against dragons in ESO...Um nevermind

Look here Dragons are not animals like Dogs or Cats, they are technically people despite their bestial appearance, they are Aedra and were once worshipped as Gods and they are most likely more intelligent then you as well so thus you would actually be there pet not the other way around, also they don't fit in ESO's timeline., fact is this to understand the nature of the Dov you must learn first that a Dragon will only bow before another of their own kind (Dragonborn's are actual Dragons BTW they are just oddly shaped) The Vestige however is no dragon.

"But then again we have Dragon knight."

Dragon Knights are not Dragons, they are regular mundane people PRETENDING/IMMITATING Dragons using a combat style based on Akaviri techniques.

Benie wrote: »

Ffastyl wrote: »

Whether or not their abilities originated from Dragons—and you must give me leave to doubt it, for no Dragons have been seen in Tamriel for thousands of years, if they ever existed at all

There are mentions of "The Dragon Wars" ingame. The very war we saw ending in Skyrim.
Also if dragons never existed in Tamriel, how do you explain the burial grounds in Eastmarch (and even one exactly where 1,000 years in the future, Alduin raises up that dragon) that's outside of Kynesgrove?

Dragon Wars ended thousands years before Soulburst.

When will people understand that ESO is not a dragon game, no you will never ride a dragon here nor will you have one as a pet. If you want epic dragons it's ok, but it's simply not the right game for you. Get over it, please.

Valar morgulis?

Because ignoring the fact that most are dead or in hiding, Dragons were almost god like beings with great intelligence. Both revered and feared equally.

I doubt one would want to be a pet to a mortal.

Doncellius wrote: »

@TX12001rwb17_ESO Dragons.... are people? And Dragonborns... are Dragons? Whaaaaa..!!!?
***mind blown
Please, don't let your pro-Skyrim bias get in the way of the actual lore. You spread a large amout of false info on a different lore thread already when you can literally look up everything on readily available Wikis. Don't do it here too

Dragons are considered lesser Aedra (similar to Dremora/Golden Saints being lesser Daedra) They are powerful and intelligent, not Gods though. Rumors spread by some in-game NPCs tell you what they think, not what is necessarily accurate. Don't believe every rumor you hear in TES unless it comes from M'aiq....

A dragon will bow down to those who are stronger than themselves, not just other dragons. Remember that Odahviing was not too willing at first to do whatever the Dragonborn wanted.

Dragonborns are NOT Dragons! Did you even play Skyrim? They have the blood and soul of a Dragon, but are still human. Tiber Septim, Saint Alessia, and Miraak were all Dragonborn. Mortals, not Dragons.

What scares me is you were given an insightful for your post! Hopefully it was for your section on Dragonknights, which was correct

The Dragonborn is infact a Dragon, basically one that is forced into a Human or Elven body but they are still a Dragon as their soul is a fragment of AKA-TUSK and I said the Dragons WERE WORSHIPPED BY MORTALS(meaning once upon a time) as Gods, Alduin himself is infact an actual God, he is the Nordic version of Akatosh who is the Imperial version of Auriel who is the elven version of Alduin.

BTW..those big winged lizards that you see in Skyrim are just the Wyvern form "Dragons" take,, I don't think you have come to the realization that the word "Dragon" in ES means much more then you think it does

How do I explain.....Its a bit like the word "Vampire" and how a vampire is a creature that feeds off of something weather it be Blood, Dirt, Grass, a Gods energy, but their are many vampires ranging from Blood Vampires to Physic Vampires to Ash Vampires (To make this clear so you do not get confused, THEIR IS NO CONNECTION between any of these creatures with the word vampire in their name, Vampire simply means they are a creature that feeds on something) Ash Vampires do not drink blood nor do they come from Molag Bal and they have no relation to Blood Vampires whatsoever, The only similarity they have with Blood Vampires is that they also feed off of something but unlike Blood Vampires the Ash Vampire feeds not on blood but off of the Essence of the Heart of Lorkhan (Seriously why did you think they were called Vampires at all) or like how some hold a theory that the Tscesci are reffered to as being vampires because they feed off of the "culture" of others, that is the "true" meaning of the word vampire, in reality the Blood Vampire should actually be called a Nosferatu or Sanguivore, the Nosferatu is just 1 Type of Vampire just as a Werebear is just 1 Type of Lycanthrope, The word Dragon has a meaning as deep as this, it doesn't just mean Big Fire Breathing Lizard, a Dragon is something that is a shard of the Original Time Spirit and can take many forms, the Dragonborn is a Dragon but one that takes the form not of a Wyvern but of a Man or Woman...Yes ES lore is very weird.

Doncellius wrote: »

@TX12001rwb17_ESO One of the longest run-on sentences I've ever scene about the Vampires... But you did teach me one thing: You'll never understand the lore of this series with the Skyrim-fanboy blindfold on.

Look. At. The. Wiki. You don't even need to play the games! You've made it painfully clear you only played Skyrim/ESO.

I understand your giant sentence that jumps between a ton of random lore-related topics, but it's irrelevant (Wyverns, Vampire variations, next you'll say apples and oranges are the same thing). I'll say in this thread what you were told by myself and others in the lorethread.

Dragonborn are mortals, blessed with the blood and soul of a dragon.
Dragons oppressed humans before The Dragon War. Dragons were looked at as Gods, with Alduin as their leader.

Alduin was the strongest Dragon (he brought together the Dragons into a civilization rather than a scattered, feral race) and is not a God. Sorry You can be lead to believe he is a God by playing too much Skyrim and being blinded by an incorrect sources of Nordic lore, slightly altered as the stories moved from one person to the next overtime. He is a SELF-Proclaimed God and he is as powerful as he is cocky and arrogant.

Edit: At the very least tell me your source so I can show you what's wrong with your information. Maybe that's how it'll get through to you.

You do realize the Wiki which you keep mentioning is fan-made right? for all you know I could of written it, the person who posted before you could of written it, If that's your source then I have bad news for you, maybe you should try the USEP instead at least that has some shred of accuracy, or maybe you could try TESlore Reddit or the Imperial Library but the Wiki? Your joking right> your trying to dispute what I have mentioned like you know ES lore but your stating that is your Source? Lets have a little test shall we...Do you know who the Underking or the Ash-king is? Do you know who Emperor Zero is? what about Vehk or Seht., who is Al-Esh? can you answer any of them without looking it up? , I can memorize a large portion of ES lore, I don't even have to look it up and Unlike some people Skyrim and ESO aint't my only ES games, I have also played Morrowind, Obliivon and Daggerfall, I do also have Arena but have never played it.

Now lets make 1 thing clear, Alduin is a God alright, he is no mere dragon why do you think you cannot absorb him? to show you what Alduin is capable of why don't you read this and it proves my point...now according to this he created Mehrunes Dagon by Cursing the Lepar Demon King and if he created a daedric prince then if not a god then what is he? and if you cannot believe he is a god because the Dragonborn defeated him then think again becausethe Nerevarine defeated gods as well anyway all Dragons are shards of AKA incase you didn't know, even Akatosh, Auriel, Alduin, Paarthurnax, Durnerviir, Odavhviing, The Mortal Talos, Miraak and the Last Dragonborn.

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/fight-one-eating-birth-dagon

This here is a link to some lore written by Michael Kirkbride, Now if you try to dispute the link I posted then do know you will be trying to dispute the person who wrote a large portion of ES lore as he wrote all that and it even says his name as being Author at the top.