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So i'm noticing people aren't stacking as much as they use to...
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭There are stacks of dead bodies that were standing to close to each other everywhere. Stacking is still a thing, it's just bodies now that are stacking.
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✭✭Can we have 1.5 back now, please?
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No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?
Its easy to explain.
Groups of 6+ get a 50% damage reduction due to the wonderful AOE Cap, This mean VD effectivly increases their damage output even more then it was putting small groups at even more oif a disadvantage then they already were.
All the top PVP large raid guilds will all be fitted in it(or the majority will be, with some healers probably wearing Phoenix and whatnot) Why wouldn't they, the set gives them a MASSIVE DPS out put just for simply killing someone. Even hard hitting DPS sets like Valkyn Skoria and Nereienth have an RNG chance, not a 100% guaranteed one.
VD hurts small scale PVP because it flatout punishes small group players. Say im running with just myself and one other friend who is a healer and she gets killed by someone wearing VD and im standing in range to receive heals while fighting outnumbered, when he/she gets killed i should be punished and take 20K damage(or whatever number it us) because Im the zerg right?
its really ridiclious, give it a few days/weeks you will see it for yourself. When the zerg kills your buddy and he blows up and kills you, it was bad enough you were already outnumbered 15-2 but now your also punished even in an outnumbered situation.....Edited by RinaldoGandolphi on March 17, 2016 2:58PMRinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »You'll still get some stacks....But people aren't huddling next to one another as much it seems.
They still do when they enter chokes/breaches and flip flags. Which my VD set loves.
What I love most tough are big groups who are repairing inner keeps thinking they are safe, no heals, no shields
Please make some vids. @Master_Kas
Haha one short vid is uploading atm xDD But it seems now when I'm looking for stacked zergs I don't find as many :'(EU | PC0 -
ToRelax✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi
No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?
Its easy to explain.
Groups of 6+ get a 50% damage reduction due to the wonderful AOE Cap, This mean VD effectivly increases their damage output even more then it was putting small groups at even more oif a disadvantage then they already were.
All the top PVP large raid guilds will all be fitted in it(or the majority will be, with some healers probably wearing Phoenix and whatnot) Why wouldn't they, the set gives them a MASSIVE DPS out put just for simply killing someone. Even hard hitting DPS sets like Valkyn Skoria and Nereienth have an RNG chance, not a 100% guaranteed one.
VD hurts small scale PVP because it flatout punishes small group players. Say im running with just myself and one other friend who is a healer and she gets killed by someone wearing VD and im standing in range to receive heals while fighting outnumbered, when he/she gets killed i should be punished and take 20K damage(or whatever number it us) because Im the zerg right?
its really ridiclious, give it a few days/weeks you will see it for yourself. When the zerg kills your buddy and he blows up and kills you, it was bad enough you were already outnumbered 15-2 but now your also punished even in an outnumbered situation.....
If the enemy brought your duo already to your limit, you would have died once one of you died most likely anyway. But most of all, the range is really small, you don't get hit unless you stack up. It's as simple as that.small scalers> 2-10meteor, they all dead, thanks to wonderful vicious death. easy?
i am embarrassed of myself that i started using meteor since its the most effective way to kill those near unkillable people. adding into some of my templar skills those small scalers have no chance. atm i play my own style of templar so i am not completely cookie cutter but if i did, it would become totally lame way to win before stronk people.
The small scalers in your example die either to Meteors or because they made a mistake in stacking up within VD range. Meteor doesn't have a reliable counter, VD has.Edited by ToRelax on March 17, 2016 3:27PMDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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booksmcread✭✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
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RoamingRiverElk✭✭✭✭✭@RinaldoGandolphi
No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?
Because magicka DK + magicka templar groups are slow, they can't spread fast and kite. They also rely more on stacking aoes together instead of mostly doing singletarget damage, which forces them to overlap more. Five people will already be hit pretty hard by the bombing if the don't happen to be blocking, I believe? They also don't really have shields on top of their HP, and they cannot dodge roll much since their stamina goes to blocking too. They also pretty much need 1h+shield on one of their bars, and I think a lot of people will choose either 1H+shield or resto for the second bar instead of destro. With slow moving classes, you also can't switch who is 'in front' taking more damage than the others as easily, so you want to stay closer to the group for the time when incoming singletarget damage is starting to become too much or you're running out of stamina.
But even against a single target, these burst builds will still do a ton of damage, and the burst can pretty much come out of nowhere. Did you see how far Sypher was when he activated Prox Det on his nightblade when he was going to that resource where he oneshot like five people? He moved fast cloaked and started his rotation very far from where he was eight seconds later. And these burst builds will now become pretty common, because so many like the playstyle. Because it's cool to burst people down and think you're really awesome. Kind of like the camo hunter stuff Except this time these builds are also done by people who one would consider skilled, because they're so done with 'zergs'.
These high damage builds hurt slow small groups because they likely can't spread as fast and it's a lot of damage on top of all the other damage they're already getting pounded with. Then when one of them dies... Tons of insta extra damage.
Well, that's my theory anyway. I don't think I've been killed by Vicious Death yet. I've been playing magicka sorc, with which I can reposition myself incredibly easily compared to magicka dk or magicka templar.Edited by RoamingRiverElk on March 17, 2016 4:01PMDalris Aalr - Magicka (Stamina) DK | Dalfish - Magicka Sorc | Dal Aalr - Magicka Warden | Dalrish - Mag/Stam NB | Irana Aalr - PvE Templar0 -
jbcrocks✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »You'll still get some stacks....But people aren't huddling next to one another as much it seems.
They still do when they enter chokes/breaches and flip flags. Which my VD set loves.
What I love most tough are big groups who are repairing inner keeps thinking they are safe, no heals, no shields
Please make some vids. @Master_Kas
Haha one short vid is uploading atm xDD But it seems now when I'm looking for stacked zergs I don't find as many :'(
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✭✭Died to VD two times only.. Needless to say we were heavily outnumbered and the guy running VD was a NB Emperor.
I the last two days it helped our small group more than it did damage us and I had a lot more fun as well.
Just seeing all these huge groups getting destroyed at the choke points. Omnomnom AP.
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✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi
No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?
Because magicka DK + magicka templar groups are slow, they can't spread fast and kite. They also rely more on stacking aoes together instead of mostly doing singletarget damage, which forces them to overlap more. Five people will already be hit pretty hard by the bombing if the don't happen to be blocking, I believe? They also don't really have shields on top of their HP, and they cannot dodge roll much since their stamina goes to blocking too. They also pretty much need 1h+shield on one of their bars, and I think a lot of people will choose either 1H+shield or resto for the second bar instead of destro. With slow moving classes, you also can't switch who is 'in front' taking more damage than the others as easily, so you want to stay closer to the group for the time when incoming singletarget damage is starting to become too much or you're running out of stamina.
But even against a single target, these burst builds will still do a ton of damage, and the burst can pretty much come out of nowhere. Did you see how far Sypher was when he activated Prox Det on his nightblade when he was going to that resource where he oneshot like five people? He moved fast cloaked and started his rotation very far from where he was eight seconds later. And these burst builds will now become pretty common, because so many like the playstyle. Because it's cool to burst people down and think you're really awesome. Kind of like the camo hunter stuff Except this time these builds are also done by people who one would consider skilled, because they're so done with 'zergs'.
These high damage builds hurt slow small groups because they likely can't spread as fast and it's a lot of damage on top of all the other damage they're already getting pounded with. Then when one of them dies... Tons of insta extra damage.
Well, that's my theory anyway. I don't think I've been killed by Vicious Death yet. I've been playing magicka sorc, with which I can reposition myself incredibly easily compared to magicka dk or magicka templar.
As far as I can see it would be a rare occasion that a small group - wether the individual members can reposition fast or not - would stack up in such a small range in the first place. Seriously, when would we ever do that? Even when taking a flag we have enough room to be in no danger from Vicious Death procs. You may get two of them with Proximity Detonation, but not one with VD (waiting for someone to show me the exception exists and try to use it as counterargument now).Edited by ToRelax on March 17, 2016 6:10PMDAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭RoamingRiverElk wrote: »RinaldoGandolphi
No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?
Because magicka DK + magicka templar groups are slow, they can't spread fast and kite. They also rely more on stacking aoes together instead of mostly doing singletarget damage, which forces them to overlap more. Five people will already be hit pretty hard by the bombing if the don't happen to be blocking, I believe? They also don't really have shields on top of their HP, and they cannot dodge roll much since their stamina goes to blocking too. They also pretty much need 1h+shield on one of their bars, and I think a lot of people will choose either 1H+shield or resto for the second bar instead of destro. With slow moving classes, you also can't switch who is 'in front' taking more damage than the others as easily, so you want to stay closer to the group for the time when incoming singletarget damage is starting to become too much or you're running out of stamina.
But even against a single target, these burst builds will still do a ton of damage, and the burst can pretty much come out of nowhere. Did you see how far Sypher was when he activated Prox Det on his nightblade when he was going to that resource where he oneshot like five people? He moved fast cloaked and started his rotation very far from where he was eight seconds later. And these burst builds will now become pretty common, because so many like the playstyle. Because it's cool to burst people down and think you're really awesome. Kind of like the camo hunter stuff Except this time these builds are also done by people who one would consider skilled, because they're so done with 'zergs'.
These high damage builds hurt slow small groups because they likely can't spread as fast and it's a lot of damage on top of all the other damage they're already getting pounded with. Then when one of them dies... Tons of insta extra damage.
Well, that's my theory anyway. I don't think I've been killed by Vicious Death yet. I've been playing magicka sorc, with which I can reposition myself incredibly easily compared to magicka dk or magicka templar.
As far as I can see it would be a rare occasion that a small group - wether the individual members can reposition fast or not - would stack up in such a small range in the first place. Seriously, when would we ever do that? Even when taking a flag we have enough room to be in no danger from Vicious Death procs. You may get two of them with Proximity Detonation, but not one with VD (waiting for someone to show me the exception exists and try to use it as counterargument now).
Bombing a choke point or ult dumping on an opposing group would be the only time i know if when a small group would condense close together...but for offensive purposes not defensiveMember of Victorem, RÁGE ; Decibel Alumni (RIP)
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✭✭✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
I wanted to bold this part.....Because i'm confused exactly how you think this is going to hurt Smaller Scale players.....
So the giant zerg....Will have more VD procs and Prox Dets to kill Small groups they already ran over in the first place?
Lets make no mistake..These groups already killed smaller groups with ease...Changing the Delivery of that changes nothing....However the ability to blow up these larger groups with ease is new.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭According to xsours the zergs of 5 already have VDMember of Victorem, RÁGE ; Decibel Alumni (RIP)
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✭✭Edited by Ghost-Shot on March 18, 2016 1:59PM0 -
GRxKnight✭✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »
@Ghost-Shot I mean in DAOC 4 is a group, 5 is a zerg...it must carry over from there to this game since zos used a bunch of DAOC ideas and implemented them into eso...right @XsorusMember of Victorem, RÁGE ; Decibel Alumni (RIP)
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✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.Edited by frozywozy on March 18, 2016 7:19PMFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
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“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost12 -
zyk✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I disagree that build diversity is at an all time low. I think we've barely begin to scratch the surface of new builds. VD had a lot of hype with a delayed entrance and those factors shaped this week in PVP. Players will adapt and VD will eventually become less interesting and effective. I hope.
For the record, I don't agree with how ZOS is encouraging players to spread out. But isn't that normal? This is a game played by at least tens of thousands of players. I doubt it is "perfect" for any of us, and each of us would make different decisions if given the opportunity. This is all highly subjective.
IMO, ZOS is overlooking the true problem: competitive balance. Most complaints about blobs weren't really about blobs. They are players frustrated by the lack of competitive balance. If you take AEs from the game, guilds like VE and Haxus are going to figure out the new meta and will still crush more casual and less hardcore players.
What we need are tiered campaigns. We need competitive campaigns with rewards that attract the best players and mechanics encourage them to face each other on the battlefield. We need environments where casual players can have fun fighting right-sized competition.
This is true of any competitive environment. Look at any established sport or passtime with competitive leagues. Players are highly segmented based on their ability and level of interest. This is normal in other genres of PVP games.
In ESO, the mechanics and rewards encourage the best players to constantly seek out the weakest opponents. This is toxic and will eventually kill a game by discouraging new players and boring the experienced.Edited by zyk on March 18, 2016 7:59PM3 -
Satiar✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭I disagree that build diversity is at an all time low. I think we've barely begin to scratch the surface of new builds. VD had a lot of hype with a delayed entrance and those factors shaped this week in PVP. Players will adapt and VD will eventually become less interesting and effective. I hope.
For the record, I don't agree with how ZOS is encouraging players to spread out. But isn't that normal? This is a game played by at least tens of thousands of players. I doubt it is "perfect" for any of us, and each of us would make different decisions if given the opportunity. This is all highly subjective.
IMO, ZOS is overlooking the true problem: competitive balance. Most complaints about blobs weren't really about blobs. They are players frustrated by the lack of competitive balance. If you take AEs from the game, guilds like VE and Haxus are going to figure out the new meta and will still crush more casual and less hardcore players.
What we need are tiered campaigns. We need competitive campaigns with rewards that attract the best players and mechanics encourage them to face each other on the battlefield. We need environments where casual players can have fun fighting right-sized competition.
This is true of any competitive environment. Look at any established sport or passtime with competitive leagues. Players are highly segmented based on their ability and level of interest. This is normal in other genres of PVP games.
In ESO, the mechanics and rewards encourage the best players to constantly seek out the weakest opponents. This is toxic and will eventually kill a game by discouraging new players and boring the experienced.
The last paragraph I especially agree with.
It is difficult to obtain "competitive fights". You range between farming randoms and attacking places you can't take just to get a decent challenge. Best fights I've had so far this patch was vs a 20 man Haxus group that got the better of us, but I haven't seen even half that many of them since. So it's back to the choice between farming Chalman and attacking Arius even though I know I can't take it.
Maybe it's just a symptom of the game, that there aren't enough competitive guilds left to fight, so it's just good guilds farming randoms.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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frozywozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.Edited by frozywozy on March 18, 2016 8:35PMFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
PvP Group Builds
“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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Ghost-Shot✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I disagree that build diversity is at an all time low. I think we've barely begin to scratch the surface of new builds. VD had a lot of hype with a delayed entrance and those factors shaped this week in PVP. Players will adapt and VD will eventually become less interesting and effective. I hope.
For the record, I don't agree with how ZOS is encouraging players to spread out. But isn't that normal? This is a game played by at least tens of thousands of players. I doubt it is "perfect" for any of us, and each of us would make different decisions if given the opportunity. This is all highly subjective.
IMO, ZOS is overlooking the true problem: competitive balance. Most complaints about blobs weren't really about blobs. They are players frustrated by the lack of competitive balance. If you take AEs from the game, guilds like VE and Haxus are going to figure out the new meta and will still crush more casual and less hardcore players.
What we need are tiered campaigns. We need competitive campaigns with rewards that attract the best players and mechanics encourage them to face each other on the battlefield. We need environments where casual players can have fun fighting right-sized competition.
This is true of any competitive environment. Look at any established sport or passtime with competitive leagues. Players are highly segmented based on their ability and level of interest. This is normal in other genres of PVP games.
In ESO, the mechanics and rewards encourage the best players to constantly seek out the weakest opponents. This is toxic and will eventually kill a game by discouraging new players and boring the experienced.
This is what kills me with ZOS, solo/small group players and guild players like myself are largely in agreement, Viscous Death needs to go, Proxy Det needs to go, and most importantly AoE caps need to go. Playing in a ball is stupid but effective, sure VD might discourage it a bit but for the better groups out here, its not really an issue and is something we will abuse like we do with prox det. Inevitably you will be caught off guard from time to time and get rekt with it by a few players but for the most part its not that big of a concern.1 -
HoloYoitsu✭✭✭✭✭
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No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk 6 -
Xsorus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Ghost-Shot wrote: »
@Ghost-Shot I mean in DAOC 4 is a group, 5 is a zerg...it must carry over from there to this game since zos used a bunch of DAOC ideas and implemented them into eso...right @Xsorus
Group size was 8 in DAOC.
Though if you're talking about Stealther Meta in the game you'd be correcthttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
ESO and GW2 PvP videos0 -
frozywozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.Frozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
PvP Group Builds
“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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HoloYoitsu✭✭✭✭✭
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I don't respond to salty "1v1 me bro" calls in game, forum ones aren't very compelling either. For what it's worth, I have yet to see you fight an actual 1v1 without a group of crit rushers behind you.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.2 -
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✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
I don't respond to salty "1v1 me bro" calls in game, forum ones aren't very compelling either. For what it's worth, I have yet to see you fight an actual 1v1 without a group of crit rushers behind you.HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.
lolFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
PvP Group Builds
“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.
But all you do is zerg surf Frozn. You even put me on ignore today because I called you out on it. Absolute hypocrite.3 -
frozywozy✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.
But all you do is zerg surf Frozn. You even put me on ignore today because I called you out on it. Absolute hypocrite.
First of, I haven't put you on ignore, I simply said I was going to ignore anything else you were going to say, since you were trying to make me look bad for absolutely no reason. I have better to do and I know what I'm worth for. Nothing to prouve to anybody, but when people such as @HoloYoitsu thinks all I do is zerging, I would be glad to offer them a real fight.
Now if he decides to decline it with the typical "I don't accept 1v1 me bro" challenges, that just prouves who has the bigger ...* and I don't need to say anything else. lolFrozn - Stamdk - AR50
Frosted - Magplar - AR50
Frodn - Magden - AR50
Warmed - Magblade - AR50
Mmfrozy - Magsorc - AR44
Necrozn - Magcro - AR32
Twitch.TV/FrozyTV
PvP Group Builds
“Small minds discuss people, average minds discuss events, and great minds discuss ideas.” -Eleanor Roosevelt- Fix Volendrung (spawn location - weapon white on the map causing the wielder to keep it forever - usable with emperorship)
- Remove / Change CPs System, remove current CP/noCP campaigns and introduce one 30days with lock, one with no locks
- Fix crashes when approaching a keep under attack because of bad / wrong rendering prioritization system
- Change emperorship to value faction score points and not alliance points - see this and this
- Fix long loading screens (mostly caused by players joining group out of rendering range)
- Add 2 more quickslots to the wheel or add a different wheel for sieges weaponry only
- Fix Balista Bolts not dealing damage on walls or doors if deployed at a certain place
- Release bigger battlegrounds with 8 to 16 players per team and only two teams
- Fix the permanent block animation - see examples : link1 link2 link3 link4 link5
- Gives players 10 minutes to get back into Cyrodiil after relogging / crashing
- Add a function to ignore the Claiming system of useless rewards
- Improve the Mailing System / Rewards of the Worthy stacking
- Assign specific group sizes to specific campaigns (24-16-8)
- Make forward camps impossible to place near objectives
- Make snares only available from ground effects abilities
- Change emperorship to last minimum 24hours
- Fix body sliding after cc breaking too quickly
- Remove Block Casting through Battle Spirit
- Fix the speed drop while jumping - see video
- Fix loading screens when keeps upgrade
- Fix Rams going crazy (spinning around)
- Bring back dynamic ulti regeneration
- Fix speed bug (abilities locked)
- Introduce dynamic population
- Lower population cap by 20%
- Add Snare Immunity potions
- Bring resurrection sickness
- Fix character desync
- Fix cc breaking bug
- Fix gap closer bug
- Fix health desync
- Fix combat bug
- Fix streak bug
- Fix server lag
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✭✭✭99.9% certain HoloYoitsu is AOE BBQ.
Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
Knights Paravant -- Co-GM and Raid Lead -- AD Greyhost2 -
Elong✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
No offense, but from what I've actually seen of you in game, your rotation is more like this...RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....
If you dislike the prox/vd/meteor/st playstyle, try any bombard build or msg me ingame @frozywozy. i've been having a ton of fun wrecking some of those groups.
He's not wrong though.
If you want DPS you go magica. VD and Proxy is too good. We haven't had a combo this imbalanced since 1.1 DKs.
If you want to stay stamina you bombard. But even than you're not really doing much on your own, you're hoping magica DPS will come in and kill the people you're rooting.
Build diversity is at an ALL TIME low. Burst is at an all time high. And the silly thing is it hasn't even stopped the "ball groups" you relentlessly hate on. They're all running the "anti ball group" sets, they're getting stupid numbers of kills. But the game is overall much worse for it.
I actually kill a ton of people. Since TG I have been running a build with 2.9k stam recovery, 2.7k weapon damage, 50% weapon critical on bow bar on top of 5pc marskman. 26k stam, 24k health, 12k magicka, 7pc impen, 20k spell resistances, 19k physical resistances.
My rotation is Hardened Armor into Shuffle into Rally into Caltrops into Vigor into Stampede into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam into Burning Breath into Shifting Standard into Arrow Barrage into Bombard spam. gg
I've been killed only once so far by VD from stealth, while repairing a wall inside a keep with no buffs on. My build allow me to deal most of my damage from range staying out of the proxs and vicious death procs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FPELc1wEvk
I've no idea who you are but if you ever wanna 1v1, let me know. Otherwise keep running your mouth while zerging me down 24v1 and I'll keep escaping as long as require until you disengage to chase someone else.
But all you do is zerg surf Frozn. You even put me on ignore today because I called you out on it. Absolute hypocrite.
First of, I haven't put you on ignore, I simply said I was going to ignore anything else you were going to say, since you were trying to make me look bad for absolutely no reason. I have better to do and I know what I'm worth for. Nothing to prouve to anybody, but when people such as @HoloYoitsu thinks all I do is zerging, I would be glad to offer them a real fight.
Now if he decides to decline it with the typical "I don't accept 1v1 me bro" challenges, that just prouves who has the bigger ...* and I don't need to say anything else. lol
I'm not trying to make you look bad, you're a competent player and a decent guy Frozn, you just carry a slightly holier than thou attitude towards other factions when we're all guilty of causing lag and balling up.3