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So i'm noticing people aren't stacking as much as they use to...
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You'll still get some stacks....But people aren't huddling next to one another as much it seems.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXpX7JMwRXtczc5GTrIYRIw
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✭✭✭✭✭It's that DAOC spec.
The hilarious part is you're not completely wrong on that assessment.
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✭✭You'll still get some stacks....But people aren't huddling next to one another as much it seems.
They still do when they enter chokes/breaches and flip flags. Which my VD set loves.
What I love most tough are big groups who are repairing inner keeps thinking they are safe, no heals, no shields
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I was told I would rage quit because 'skill will actually matter.' But here I am getting more kills than ever!
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yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
Edit : was some pugs around us too aswell , they died just the same
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✭✭✭✭✭I find that i die more when i have vicious death equipped vs my magnus set simply cause i'm willing to go balls deep just to get off a big kill on a stack....and then i have like no recovery lol
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✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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WTB Trap Card.Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
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When I play in a small group what makes it easy is you're not a big target. You have an easier time getting in position to get your burst in. Not quite anymore, but at least I play a NB!Edited by Satiar on March 17, 2016 1:12AMVehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
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✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
Perhaps you could try practicing it on someone other than me in the future please!!! lol
Last time only 8 people got it off, I need more efficiency !Vehemence -- Commander and Raid Lead -- Tri-faction PvP
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✭✭HoloYoitsu wrote: »
^ same, still seeing tons of juicy stacks.
I've never been so glad to see zergs. lolololDarkonflare15 wrote: »
Yeah pretty much the same thing would happen without Aoe caps just more frequently since you do even need the set to cause that much damage.
They would need to remove aoe caps and proxy and VD. The game would be much better off with all 3 gone.Edited by KenaPKK on March 17, 2016 2:13AMKena
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It was 10.Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
Perhaps you could try practicing it on someone other than me in the future please!!! lol
Last time only 8 people got it off, I need more efficiency !1 -
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✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »
yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
Perhaps you could try practicing it on someone other than me in the future please!!! lol
Last time only 8 people got it off, I need more efficiency !
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yeah it's bad.
I die more than I used to because this meta is just burst burst burst but I'm killing crazy numbers too.
It's not a very good patch.
How you like them synced meteors ?
Had a raid and pugs dropping more than 17 meteors on us today when we was 10 ppl, all at the same moment. Basiclly sounded like a machine gun of meteors. xD RIPz
It's working a bit too well.
It's going to take time to get everyone on the same page RE timing and distance, etc., but it's BiS as far as I'm concerned and needs a counter other than Block.
Perhaps you could try practicing it on someone other than me in the future please!!! lol
Last time only 8 people got it off, I need more efficiency !
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✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »You'll still get some stacks....But people aren't huddling next to one another as much it seems.
They still do when they enter chokes/breaches and flip flags. Which my VD set loves.
What I love most tough are big groups who are repairing inner keeps thinking they are safe, no heals, no shields
Please make some vids. @Master_Kas
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What I did see last night was this game being in the worst state its ever been.
this whole Vicious Death Proxy thing is just a complete joke.
Vicious Death and the handling of Proxy was just another in a long line of middle fingers given by ZOS to their solo and small group player base. The siege changes and forward camps are good, it gives outnumbered defenders atleast a chance.
This VD Proxy nonsense however....i wanted smaller group to have a chance, but not like this....this nonsense punishes small groups far more then many of you realize...just wait till those zerg balls all have it in a couple of days...they will have VD and Proxy too but they will have far more of them then you do.
Un-Reflectable Meteor is OK on its own and would have been OK had they not brought in these stupid sets like VD and literally handing every scrub on the planet Proxy Det...however when all 3 are combined as a sum of all parts, you have reduced Cyrodiil into nothing but wear 5 VD, and:
Cast Meteor
cast CC/AOECC of your choice,
let Proxy go off
profit
This update right here tells you that ZOS has abandoned PVP, that this is their answer to lag and such...what an embarrassment. They have single handily ruined their own game it just hasn't sunk in yet for many, but it will in very due time it will. Within 3 weeks everyone will be wearing the same exact gear doing the same exact thing, welcome to the homogenization of PVP.
The irony is folks like Sypher and such simply don't get it. Instead of "punishing" ball groups(which in reality are just players who want to play together) why not create small scale pvp content in the game like say...i dunno the Justice System you promised us, or some sort of arena or small scale instanced PVP or small scale objectives to fill the needs of players like Sypher instead of changing the entire meta to benefit a small percentage of the games pop and spitting in everyone else face.
I advocated for better siege and some skill changes To make defending an objective when outnumbered not an act of futility I never once wanted one shot garbage like VD or Proxy put into the game to punish people who ya know...group with their friends because its an MMO...
All that needed to be done was the changes to siege and the removal of AOE caps. Nothing else needed to be done, instead ZOS gave up on PVP, left the AOE caps in, and introduced a set and skills that will solely punish and one shot small groups of 6 or less people because ya gotta punish that zerg lol
In a few weeks you will see the lagest mass exodus from this game that hasn't been seen since july of 2014, and the majority of those people will not return for DB just like the majority of those 770,00+ subs that left didn't return either forcing ZOS into B2P because they simply don't get it....
If you would have brought the ideas of the VD set and the Proxy Det skill to a group of paid game testers(yes professional people that test games as a career) they would have immediately told ZOS the stuff was stupid OP and would be a huge mistake to put in the game, but they are testing the game with bots and listening to player bias so why should the community expect anything different.......its unreal...ZOS had success handed to them on a silver platter back in 2014 and they straight up blew it...
Yes im voicing my displeasure for all the small scale and "gasp" normal players who got railroaded this update. They didn't fix the lag, all they done was give us more stupidly broken OP nonsense and more bugs....but hey....gotta sell those boxes right? ....Rinaldo Gandolphi-Breton Sorcerer Daggerfall Covenant
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No one says VD is a good solution. Now could you kindly explain to me how this set is hurting small groups though?DAGON - ALTADOON - CHIM - GHARTOK
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kuro-dono✭✭✭✭small scalers> 2-10meteor, they all dead, thanks to wonderful vicious death. easy?
i am embarrassed of myself that i started using meteor since its the most effective way to kill those near unkillable people. adding into some of my templar skills those small scalers have no chance. atm i play my own style of templar so i am not completely cookie cutter but if i did, it would become totally lame way to win before stronk people.Edited by kuro-dono on March 17, 2016 1:32PM0
