Elder Scrolls 6 - an ESO DLC???

JD2013 · March 2016

The Elder Scrolls VI might not even be in any stage of development.

Bethesda are apparently currently working on some new IP's and Fallout 4 DLC. Whilst the Fallout 4 DLC is likely being worked on by a smaller team, they are a small studio with the capability to work only on one game at any given time properly.

Todd Howard has also spoken out against multiplayer in his single player games.

If we are going to get another Elder Scrolls main series game, don't expect it for a long long time, and certainly don't expect it to have multiplayer in it.

DaveMoeDee · March 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Faasnu wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?

I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.

I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.

Like Fallout 4?

I doubt it has co-op. Not worth the development complications.

Just curious, what open world RPGs have co-op? I can't think of any. DA:I had a completely separate MP mode like ME3.

The_Lex · March 2016

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Faasnu wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?

I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.

I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.

Like Fallout 4?

I doubt it has co-op. Not worth the development complications.

Just curious, what open world RPGs have co-op? I can't think of any. DA:I had a completely separate MP mode like ME3.

You might be right, but FO4 didn't have an FO MMO that preceded it. If TES6 is in development (which may not be the case), Todd Howard said that they are working on projects that are crazy different than what Beth is used to. This could mean a completely different IP, or it could mean a current IP with a different approach, like a single player TES with a co-op mode. When ESO launched, the official Beth forum was buzzing with, "we wanted co-op not an MMO . . .blah blah."

Make no mistake, I'm not advocating for co-op. I just think it's more likely than not.

DaveMoeDee · March 2016

kalimar44 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.

Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.

Fact Is:

1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media

This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.

in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.

When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.

In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.

As Pete Hines said in an interview:

https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/

“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.

“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.

“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”

Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.

ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American media company that develops and publishes video games through its subsidiaries. ZeniMax is known as the owner of id Software (developer of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein), Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4), Arkane Studios (developer of Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Dishonored), MachineGames (developer of Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood), Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within) and ZeniMax Online Studios. ZeniMax Media Inc. is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.

Zenimax owns Bethesda not the other way around bud zenimax was founded in 1999 and Bethesda was created as a subsidiary of zenimax in 2002 so you are wrong in that aspect

EDIT: so Bethesda couldn't possibly create zenimax seeing as zenimax came out 3 years before Bethesda.

also ZOS is another subsidiary of zenimax media to manage ESO.

You are completely wrong. Look at this>>>>>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks

The previous poster wasn't completely wrong. Partly wrong. Bethesda was founded in 1986 based on your link.

Does that mean the Bethesda was acquired by ZeniMax and became a subsidiary?

Samadhi · March 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Faasnu wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?

I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.

I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.

Like Fallout 4?

I doubt it has co-op. Not worth the development complications.

Just curious, what open world RPGs have co-op? I can't think of any. DA:I had a completely separate MP mode like ME3.

You might be right, but FO4 didn't have an FO MMO that preceded it. If TES6 is in development (which may not be the case), Todd Howard said that they are working on projects that are crazy different than what Beth is used to. This could mean a completely different IP, or it could mean a current IP with a different approach, like a single player TES with a co-op mode. When ESO launched, the official Beth forum was buzzing with, "we wanted co-op not an MMO . . .blah blah."

Make no mistake, I'm not advocating for co-op. I just think it's more likely than not.

Followed almost every interview with Todd Howard in the wake of Fallout 4.

There was mention that Bethesda puts multiplayer into the earliest forms of all their games, then ends up dumping it because the game works better without it.
There was also mention of plans to work on a new IP before moving back to Elder Scrolls.

More recently, he has alluded to working on three major projects, with something entirely different in the pipeline.
Do not personally presume all three projects are the something new, just that he is excited about the new project that is likel next in line.

Also kind of think that the Montréal studio they recently expanded to is working predominately on the Elder Scrolls Legends card game, because the head of that studio has a history of specializing in mobile and console games.

If the card game pans out similar to Fallout Shelter, that would make me suspect that Elder Scrolls 6 is their third project in the works, and the aforementioned other two are the "something different" he hints at.
Even with Elder Scrolls Online being active, cannot see them dropping a name-sake card game unless they were trying to use it to generate hype for the next single player title.

thessera · March 2016

To be honest ESO does not feel like an Elder Scroll game at all , because there are several breaks in the concept which makes the story/lore unimaginable : compared to the "original" TES elder scroll games.

You cannot compare the game experience on a RPG to an MMORPG,
Since the experience is so different. i feel a RPG allow you to get much deeper into the story ( like a movie)
while MMORPG is more about competition and team work.

RazielSR · March 2016

The amount of madness in this forum is starting to frighten me.

How a person can imagine so wrong things as the op,feel that is ok and even post it to share it...is beyond my imagination.

DaveMoeDee · March 2016

The_Patriarch wrote: »

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

The_Patriarch wrote: »

Faasnu wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

So you think Elder Scrolls 6 should be single player only?

I would say yes, definitely. I can't imagine being bothered by other players in a true TES game. I'm having a silly fun in ESO, but it's not even comparable to how much I enjoy single player TES games. No farming, no grinding, no leaderboards, etc. Just peace and quiet, me and NPCs.

I agree; however, I am almost certain there will be a co-op mode this time around.

Like Fallout 4?

I doubt it has co-op. Not worth the development complications.

Just curious, what open world RPGs have co-op? I can't think of any. DA:I had a completely separate MP mode like ME3.

You might be right, but FO4 didn't have an FO MMO that preceded it. If TES6 is in development (which may not be the case), Todd Howard said that they are working on projects that are crazy different than what Beth is used to. This could mean a completely different IP, or it could mean a current IP with a different approach, like a single player TES with a co-op mode. When ESO launched, the official Beth forum was buzzing with, "we wanted co-op not an MMO . . .blah blah."

Make no mistake, I'm not advocating for co-op. I just think it's more likely than not.

I think having an MMO for the IP makes the MP less likely, not more likely.

Lightninvash · March 2016

DaveMoeDee wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

Lightninvash wrote: »

I think eso6 is gna be a major expansion of eso kind of like what destiny did they made a new game as an expansion to build on the previous game. that added new weapons new storyline armor etc. because with tes games they would literally be gimping the eso long term if they come our with more single player tes games. so I think it will probably be a full game expansion instead of a single player game.

Won't happen, everyone has this convulted Idea that Zenimax Owns Bethesda and ZOS somehow has owenrship or pecking order rights over Bethesda and thats imply not true at all...infact nothing could be farther from the truth.

Fact Is:

1. Zenimax Media was created by Bethesda founders Christopher Weaver and Robert Altman.
2. Weaver made Altman CEO of Zenimax Media

This means Zenimax Media is actually nothing more then Bethesda Corporate and was created to manage the IP, acquiring new stuff, and the corporate day to day stuff so Bethesda could focus on developing games...in other words Zenimax Media handles the business, taxes, etc side of the company so Bethesda can make products.

in reality ZOS is a studio hired by Bethesda Corporate(Zenimax Media) to make an MMO for them with one of their IP.

When ESO announced their B2P go look at the videos, go see who was watching over Firor's shoulder during that interview...Pete Hines VP of Bethesda...Bethesda has always been calling the shots from day one, ZOS and that studio are simply employees of Bethesda.

In business its quite common for larger companies to create corporate entities under a different name to pool certain resources under in order to make managing all the companies resources easier.

As Pete Hines said in an interview:

https://www.vg247.com/2013/06/13/todd-howards-next-game-looking-awesome-dont-expect-news-on-it-anytime-soon/

“Zenimax Online Studio is an MMO shop,” said Hines. “They’re making an Elder Scrolls MMO and that is 100% unrelated to [the single-player series]. Todd Howard, at this point, has earned the right to do what the hell he wants; nobody gets to tell him different and nobody gets to dictate to him what he gets to do.

“You’re laughing because you know it’s true. He gets to do whatever he wants. Him and his team are moving forward with the stuff that they want to work on and where they want to go next in making games. I get to see it and it’s already really awesome, but it’s probably helpful to note that anyone who thinks that what he’s working on next is going to be talked about soon doesn’t understand game development.

“Give these guys time and space: expect it never and be surprised if it’s any time before then.”

Simply put, Since the co-founder of Bethesda is the CEO of Zenimax Media, Zenimax Media is simply another name for Bethesda Corporate, if and when TES6 comes out is whenever Bethesda feels like releasing it, i do know Bethesda is using ESO as a time filler for the new IP Bethesda has been working on since 2014 so take that for what you will.

ZeniMax Media Inc. is an American media company that develops and publishes video games through its subsidiaries. ZeniMax is known as the owner of id Software (developer of Doom, Quake and Wolfenstein), Bethesda Game Studios (developer of The Elder Scrolls, Fallout 3 and Fallout 4), Arkane Studios (developer of Arx Fatalis, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic and Dishonored), MachineGames (developer of Wolfenstein: The New Order and Wolfenstein: The Old Blood), Tango Gameworks (developer of The Evil Within) and ZeniMax Online Studios. ZeniMax Media Inc. is headquartered in Rockville, Maryland, with offices in North America, Europe, Asia and Australia.

Zenimax owns Bethesda not the other way around bud zenimax was founded in 1999 and Bethesda was created as a subsidiary of zenimax in 2002 so you are wrong in that aspect

EDIT: so Bethesda couldn't possibly create zenimax seeing as zenimax came out 3 years before Bethesda.

also ZOS is another subsidiary of zenimax media to manage ESO.

You are completely wrong. Look at this>>>>>>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks

The previous poster wasn't completely wrong. Partly wrong. Bethesda was founded in 1986 based on your link.

Does that mean the Bethesda was acquired by ZeniMax and became a subsidiary?

I was referring to Bethesda game studios which was founded in 2002 which is as I see it now(blonde moment) is a subsidiary of Bethesda softworks. which looks like zenimax bought out Bethesda softworks (from what I can see) and made Bethesda a subsidiary of zenimax studios.

failkiwib16_ESO · March 2016

I am not against MMO's and multiplayer games, but it is just not my preference. Had I known how endgame in ESO would be, when I played the beta, I would never have purchased the game... I really enjoy the little community I'm in, and I love my guild and friends, and I like doing content with them - and that is what's keeping me in ESO, not the game itself.

If the next TES game is an MMO, I will not even try it.

The_Lex · March 2016

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

If the next TES game is an MMO, I will not even try it.

I'm with you. I want to wander where ever the setting is by myself, taking in the immersive beauty of a TES single player game.

DaveMoeDee · March 2016

failkiwib16_ESO wrote: »

I am not against MMO's and multiplayer games, but it is just not my preference. Had I known how endgame in ESO would be, when I played the beta, I would never have purchased the game... I really enjoy the little community I'm in, and I love my guild and friends, and I like doing content with them - and that is what's keeping me in ESO, not the game itself.

If the next TES game is an MMO, I will not even try it.

It definitely will not be an MMO. The fact that Skyrim was way more popular than ESO makes would make that a sketchy business decision. The strict classes is also the wrong vibe for TES6.

TES6 will likely have a leveling system similar to the other TES games. Every character will have access to everything.

Waffennacht · March 2016

I had heard that tes6 is completely dependent on how popular eso remains. I had heard if eso remains popular then there will not be a tes 6 just more dlcs.

nine9six · March 2016

lol @ these threads.

Hope499 · March 2016

istateres wrote: »

I know, couldn't be the truth; but . . . .

A) Elder Scrolls 6 must have at least cooporative play. Just PvE is not going to be acceptable! ?

Tell that to every other ESO game ever made, including Skyrim and all is sales.

CP5 · March 2016

nine9six wrote: »

lol @ these threads.

I don't get it, I mean, seriously where do these ideas come from?

nine9six · March 2016

CP5 wrote: »

nine9six wrote: »

lol @ these threads.

I don't get it, I mean, seriously where do these ideas come from?

Skooma-induced "visions".

istateres · March 2016

Interesting,

RazielSR wrote: »

The amount of madness in this forum is starting to frighten me.

How a person can imagine so wrong things as the op,feel that is ok and even post it to share it...is beyond my imagination.

Sheogorath made me do it???

Moonshadow66 · March 2016

I truly hope that the next TES game will be a single player game (and I'm pretty sure it will). ESO is ok as an MMO, but it still doesn't feel like I'm playing a TES game, though. I miss the single player ones. I could start them right away if I'd want to, but after playing them for so many years and literally thousands of hours, I need something new.

WalkingLegacy · March 2016

istateres wrote: »

Interesting,

RazielSR wrote: »

The amount of madness in this forum is starting to frighten me.

How a person can imagine so wrong things as the op,feel that is ok and even post it to share it...is beyond my imagination.

Sheogorath made me do it???

Sheogorath,

That crazy damn uncle of everyone.

dodgehopper_ESO · March 2016

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.

So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV

I agree that it isn't TES 6 but I think that adding Thieves Guild has gone a long way toward making it feel more like a TES game. My only wish is that they would add more factions, including some heroic factions moving forward. The Fighters Guild is about as close as you can get to a 'Heroic' faction right now since they are charged with fighting Molag Bal by Meridia (I'm still not sure I trust Meridia, considering some of the story in TES:4 Oblivion and related lorebooks). That being said the Fighters Guild is definitely a 'gray area' since they are swords for hire, mercenaries with no true loyalty or cause, apart from being paid by Meridia. I'm fine with this as a plot point but I'd like to see the more conan-esque elements of this guild show up in the future. Additionally, I really think this game lacks in having a Heroic faction to join. We need something like the Imperial Legion or Twin Lamps in Morrowind. We need something like the Dawnguard. I'd love to see a faction we can join that gives the character with a sense of heroism a good feeling. As it stands the story in my own headspace regarding these villain factions is that my character's actions (when a villain) are alternate realities thanks in part to dragon break or meridia machination, however you look at it.

istateres · March 2016

Hope499 wrote: »

istateres wrote: »

I know, couldn't be the truth; but . . . .

A) Elder Scrolls 6 must have at least cooporative play. Just PvE is not going to be acceptable! ?

Tell that to every other ESO game ever made, including Skyrim and all is sales.

Sure, but what percent of Skyrim players WANTED to play with their friends??? Be honest, it is/was a large percent.

I believe Elder Scrolls 6 will have some type of cooporative play. If you don't, fine.

WalkingLegacy · March 2016

dodgehopper_ESO wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.

So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV

I agree that it isn't TES 6 but I think that adding Thieves Guild has gone a long way toward making it feel more like a TES game. My only wish is that they would add more factions, including some heroic factions moving forward. The Fighters Guild is about as close as you can get to a 'Heroic' faction right now since they are charged with fighting Molag Bal by Meridia (I'm still not sure I trust Meridia, considering some of the story in TES:4 Oblivion and related lorebooks). That being said the Fighters Guild is definitely a 'gray area' since they are swords for hire, mercenaries with no true loyalty or cause, apart from being paid by Meridia. I'm fine with this as a plot point but I'd like to see the more conan-esque elements of this guild show up in the future. Additionally, I really think this game lacks in having a Heroic faction to join. We need something like the Imperial Legion or Twin Lamps in Morrowind. We need something like the Dawnguard. I'd love to see a faction we can join that gives the character with a sense of heroism a good feeling. As it stands the story in my own headspace regarding these villain factions is that my character's actions (when a villain) are alternate realities thanks in part to dragon break or meridia machination, however you look at it.

I sort of agree but their DLC are a forced progression for your character.

In TES my fighters wouldn't be in the Thieves guild or Dark Brotherhood. I would roll an alt.

Rolling an alt in ESO isn't practical nor fun.

Morimizo · March 2016

skillastat wrote: »

Start your game, click on Credits.

See what are those first words ?
"BASED on The Elder Scrolls"

That's right, ESO is based on the franchise. Please let the Single Player TES Games out of this.

Please.

TRUTH.

RinaldoGandolphi · March 2016

Lightninvash wrote: »

bro 1st line Bethesda Softworks, LLC is an American video game publisher. A subsidiary of ZeniMax Media. it sais right there it is a subsidiary.

A subsidiary, subsidiary company or daughter company is a company that is owned or controlled by another company, which is called the parent company, parent, or holding company.
@kalimar44

Again your wrong

Bethesda Softworks was founded in 1986 and TES:Arena came out in 1994

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bethesda_Softworks

Founded in 1986 by Christopher Weaver in Bethesda, Maryland, and moved to Rockville, Maryland in 1990, the company has a long history of PC and console games. In 2001 Bethesda Softworks became a publisher only and the newly formed Bethesda Game Studios became the developer of their games.

Zenimax Media WAS CREATED BY BETHESDA in May 1999

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZeniMax_Media

ZeniMax Media was Co-founded in May 1999 by Bethesda Softworks founder Christopher Weaver and DC lawyer Robert A. Altman.[7] Weaver brought Altman on board as CEO, contributing his stock in Bethesda Softworks so that the new shell company, named ZeniMax Media, would be able to obtain funding.

There was no buy out or anything Bethesda created Zenimax to essentially be Bethesda Corporate and put Bethesda co-founder Altman as CEO of Zenimax, they then restructured their company and Split Bethesda's into two smaller units...Bethesda Game Studios as the dev, and Bethesda Softworks as the publisher, Prior to this Bethesda did both in one house...its just standard corporate restructuring as they grew in capital.

No one bought Bethesda, Bethesda created Zenimax in 1999 Bethesda existed in 1986. For legal, tax, and other purposes it made sense for Bethesda to create Zenimax Corporate to deal with the corporate side of things and to split the publisher and game dev because they were growing and acquiring more capital and more IP, as they later ended up buying Is Software.Zenimax and Bethesda even share the same building.

I know it can be confusing, but Zenimax is just Bethesda Corporate, it was created by the Co-Founders of Bethesda and later allowed them to split the company into different parts and later add another studio like ZOS. So now you have:

Zenimax does the corporate stuff
ZOS does the MMO
Bethesda Game studios devs their games
Bethesda Softworks publishes them.

they are all in rality simply run by Behtesda Corporate, but Zenimax honestly sounds like a better name

Tholian1 · March 2016

istateres wrote: »

WalkingLegacy wrote: »

ESO doesn't have the same feel or charm as a real TES game.

So no, ESO is not TESVI with multiplayer. ESO was also in development in 2007, same year as TESV

What does ESO need to capture the PVE charm of a TES game?

As an MMO, it can't capture the charm of a single player TES game. You are the one and only hero in the TES games, unlike the one of many that really doesn't matter in ESO. The single player games also allow you to become attached to your character, and ESO destroys that by upending the skills at the core of that character every few months making them feel disposable and unimportant.

Glorious_One wrote: »

TES 6 better not be ruined by some multiplayer garbage. It isnt a multiplayer franchise, it isnt gta it isnt dark souls, so no I do not want any type of multiplayer in the next TES game. It is glorious and awesome in the format it currently has.

My fear is that they will attempt some multiplayer garbage like Fable did.

Reznique · March 2016

TES and Fallout series were always focused on single player. Thats why they are good.

ESO is not part of TES series at all.

And making a potentially good game (TES 6) on this deformed multiplatform MMO engine would kill everything.

RDMyers65b14_ESO · March 2016

ESO is set in the second era. TES 6 will likely be in the forth if not the fifth era. It will not be a sequel to ESO.

Lenikus · March 2016

Skyrim was the last (single player) title from the Elder Scrolls Franchise.
Elder Scrolls Online is the last title. period.

"ES VI - Argonia" or any similar hype is nothing but a wet dream from some players.
(it couldn't even BE in deep argonian territory because if so, only argonians would be able to play)

If they ever make an Elder Scrolls 6, it'll be in 8 or maybe 9 years from now. And likely feature either the sands of Alik'r, or heck, even Elseweyr

Sausage · March 2016

I hope for single playing game, and most importantly somekind of cross-promotion for ESO.