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Radiant Destruction
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
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Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
You can be a templar and purge the skill. Which is what everyone who is defending radiant oppression is saying to do. Be a templar or die. GREAT sense of balancing from this community. And the vet6 who doesn't know anything is the reason why the game isn't balanced FeelsGoodMan
Or use the other 15+ counters.
Enlighten me on the 15+ counters, if you do not mind. I'm a v6 templar. I don't know what i am talking about. Enlighten me oh great master of every class and their abilities.
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Templar
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Nightblade
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sorcerer
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Dragonknight
Find them.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual3 -
Parafrost✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Yep. 3 and a half months Rank 22 in pvp atm. Kind of slacking on my pvp game trying to level my templar.0 -
DisgracefulMind✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭DisgracefulMind wrote: »
Yep. 3 and a half months Rank 22 in pvp atm. Kind of slacking on my pvp game trying to level my templar.
lolUnfortunate magicka warden main.
PC/NA Server
Fairweather Friends
Retired to baby bgs forever. Leave me alone.4 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
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Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
You can be a templar and purge the skill. Which is what everyone who is defending radiant oppression is saying to do. Be a templar or die. GREAT sense of balancing from this community. And the vet6 who doesn't know anything is the reason why the game isn't balanced FeelsGoodMan
Actually I was fine with the RD ticks being dodgeable. The problem was that the Templar got locked into the channel cast for the full 3 second channel without doing any damage at all. That was lame.
I am totally cool with being able to dodge 1 seconds worth of ticks by dodging. Timed right it could be 2/4 ticks dodged.
That 20% chance to dodge 1 second of the 2.9 second duration wont really help, setting up a barrier or purge for a stam build is helpful but you will lose out on a necessary ability. Blocking helps but that reduces your stamina. Yes only terrible players use the skill at 100% hp. That is quite obvious. This is just giving terrible players the incentive to be able to kill with a execute ability. Do I want templars to be useless? No. All i'm trying to say is that if a skill is blatantly broken, then there should be some adjustments to it, whether it was reverted back to working as a execute or complete nerf of the ability. TBH, the skill did seem useless, only because some templars use it at 100% to I guess mark a target? Is whatever though, i'm have a v6 templar and a v16 stam dk, i don't know what i'm talking about it seems.
I wasn't talking about Elude or any other "20% dodge chance" skill. I was talking about roll dodge.0 -
Parafrost✭✭✭
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
You can be a templar and purge the skill. Which is what everyone who is defending radiant oppression is saying to do. Be a templar or die. GREAT sense of balancing from this community. And the vet6 who doesn't know anything is the reason why the game isn't balanced FeelsGoodMan
Actually I was fine with the RD ticks being dodgeable. The problem was that the Templar got locked into the channel cast for the full 3 second channel without doing any damage at all. That was lame.
I am totally cool with being able to dodge 1 seconds worth of ticks by dodging. Timed right it could be 2/4 ticks dodged.
That 20% chance to dodge 1 second of the 2.9 second duration wont really help, setting up a barrier or purge for a stam build is helpful but you will lose out on a necessary ability. Blocking helps but that reduces your stamina. Yes only terrible players use the skill at 100% hp. That is quite obvious. This is just giving terrible players the incentive to be able to kill with a execute ability. Do I want templars to be useless? No. All i'm trying to say is that if a skill is blatantly broken, then there should be some adjustments to it, whether it was reverted back to working as a execute or complete nerf of the ability. TBH, the skill did seem useless, only because some templars use it at 100% to I guess mark a target? Is whatever though, i'm have a v6 templar and a v16 stam dk, i don't know what i'm talking about it seems.
I wasn't talking about Elude or any other "20% dodge chance" skill. I was talking about roll dodge.
Oh ok.0 -
KennanTheCold✭✭✭Mrs_Quietus wrote: »Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD
Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow
#bringbackblindingflashes
Not sure if anyone else said this, but you forgot one @Mrs_Quietus, Explosive charge is also an interrupt iirc.
Overall good summary glad your on team templar.Kennan Freesword
Adielle Freesword
Kennan Freesword Jr
Noble Freesword
Tara Freesword
Bruce Freesword3 -
myrrrorb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
You can be a templar and purge the skill. Which is what everyone who is defending radiant oppression is saying to do. Be a templar or die. GREAT sense of balancing from this community. And the vet6 who doesn't know anything is the reason why the game isn't balanced FeelsGoodMan
Or use the other 15+ counters.
Enlighten me on the 15+ counters, if you do not mind. I'm a v6 templar. I don't know what i am talking about. Enlighten me oh great master of every class and their abilities.
I pretty sure you're trolling at this point. But, I'll feed the troll.
Just scroll up dude. 15+ counters was listed as while back.0 -
Parafrost✭✭✭myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
Jules, I love you.
These templars see proof of it and are literally still defending it. "Oh, must be his super high stats, yeah!" "Staged fight!!" You know, you guys aren't making too good of a name for yourselves with the elitist attitudes.
So let's see.
Fight took 6 seconds. Total health was 21,754. That would be 21754/6 = 3625 DPS.
So spamming RD from full health will net you 3625 dps. Or around 7000 dps in PvE?
Thanks for proving that only terrible players will spam RD from 100% health.
Honestly, if you can't be bothered to read previous posts then I wouldn't be posting anything else. My problem is multiple radiants at once. Take that video with blab and Jules, for example. Now multiply how fast Jules died by 2 or maybe even 3. You have no chance whatsoever. One on one radiant isn't a problem(kinda like WB), which I've stated multiple times in my previous posts if you cared enough. Obviously you do care enough, because you decided to refute my statement without prior knowledge of what I'm on about.
The same is true of multiple people targeting you with any skill, snipe, WB, ambush spam etc.
In the words of The Emperor, "You will die".
Except I have a chance by dodging/reflecting them.
You can be a templar and purge the skill. Which is what everyone who is defending radiant oppression is saying to do. Be a templar or die. GREAT sense of balancing from this community. And the vet6 who doesn't know anything is the reason why the game isn't balanced FeelsGoodMan
Or use the other 15+ counters.
Enlighten me on the 15+ counters, if you do not mind. I'm a v6 templar. I don't know what i am talking about. Enlighten me oh great master of every class and their abilities.
I pretty sure you're trolling at this point. But, I'll feed the troll.
Just scroll up dude. 15+ counters was listed as while back.
Didn't look that far back tbh.0 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭AddictionX wrote: »No, i took it the way i took it ...but thanks for telling me how i took it?(which by the way was not the way i took it lol) I guess standing up for my opinion makes me a tough guy ok lol anyways back to the topic.
Hell yea it's lol worthy
and ill legit agree to it give those beams to everyone and the range for the same channeled time.
I'm not upset about templars and their abilities, its one skill and it happens to belong to templars that is all... lets stop the false accusations and im not really upset about the skill either... but thanks again for telling me im upset!
Glad to see the cp thing is being brought into it the thread peoples are making progress
"literally any class can completely nullify the damage" ~Great I'll call your bluff please show it with viable photos, stats, and videos! Many thanks!
Damage shield, Heal through it, Block, Purge it, Interrupt it.
[snip]
Take yourself up on your own challenge. If you want a ranged, undodgeable execute roll a Templar. I want to see your videos of how well you play it. I doubt it would go well, when you don't even understand the basics of the game claiming you can't counter such an ability.
[edited for flamming]
I think the people complaining mostly is because of those who hides in zergs with 3-4 templars spamming jesusbeam at max range, where you can't interupt it, or block (since then OOS) or dodgeroll it.
Don't think anyone complains about it when there is equal numbers or 1v1's.
Yes 3-4 snipes when you are outnumbered will kill you aswell, or 3 crystal frags. But atleast those you can dodge from range.EU | PC2 -
Parafrost✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »AddictionX wrote: »No, i took it the way i took it ...but thanks for telling me how i took it?(which by the way was not the way i took it lol) I guess standing up for my opinion makes me a tough guy ok lol anyways back to the topic.
Hell yea it's lol worthy and ill legit agree to it give those beams to everyone and the range for the same channeled time.
I'm not upset about templars and their abilities, its one skill and it happens to belong to templars that is all... lets stop the false accusations and im not really upset about the skill either... but thanks again for telling me im upset!
Glad to see the cp thing is being brought into it the thread peoples are making progress
"literally any class can completely nullify the damage" ~Great I'll call your bluff please show it with viable photos, stats, and videos! Many thanks!
Damage shield, Heal through it, Block, Purge it, Interrupt it.
[snip]
Take yourself up on your own challenge. If you want a ranged, undodgeable execute roll a Templar. I want to see your videos of how well you play it. I doubt it would go well, when you don't even understand the basics of the game claiming you can't counter such an ability.
[edited for flamming]
I think the people complaining mostly is because of those who hides in zergs with 3-4 templars spamming jesusbeam at max range, where you can't interupt it, or block (since then OOS) or dodgeroll it.
Don't think anyone complains about it when there is equal numbers or 1v1's.
Yes 3-4 snipes when you are outnumbered will kill you aswell, or 3 crystal frags. But atleast those you can dodge from range.
Yes. It irritates me when I get Xv1ed and 2 templars are there spamming Radiant on me at 100%...0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭KennanTheCold wrote: »Mrs_Quietus wrote: »Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD
Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow
#bringbackblindingflashes
Not sure if anyone else said this, but you forgot one @Mrs_Quietus, Explosive charge is also an interrupt iirc.
Overall good summary glad your on team templar.
Toppling charge is there. But explosive charge has an AOE interrupt
.
Shame it doesn't work...
Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual1 -
Jules✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭For whoever wanted comparisons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player 4 -
Parafrost✭✭✭For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
damn. Seems like Radiant isn't broken i guess Kappa0 -
Master_Kas✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »AddictionX wrote: »No, i took it the way i took it ...but thanks for telling me how i took it?(which by the way was not the way i took it lol) I guess standing up for my opinion makes me a tough guy ok lol anyways back to the topic.
Hell yea it's lol worthy and ill legit agree to it give those beams to everyone and the range for the same channeled time.
I'm not upset about templars and their abilities, its one skill and it happens to belong to templars that is all... lets stop the false accusations and im not really upset about the skill either... but thanks again for telling me im upset!
Glad to see the cp thing is being brought into it the thread peoples are making progress
"literally any class can completely nullify the damage" ~Great I'll call your bluff please show it with viable photos, stats, and videos! Many thanks!
Damage shield, Heal through it, Block, Purge it, Interrupt it.
[snip]
Take yourself up on your own challenge. If you want a ranged, undodgeable execute roll a Templar. I want to see your videos of how well you play it. I doubt it would go well, when you don't even understand the basics of the game claiming you can't counter such an ability.
[edited for flamming]
I think the people complaining mostly is because of those who hides in zergs with 3-4 templars spamming jesusbeam at max range, where you can't interupt it, or block (since then OOS) or dodgeroll it.
Don't think anyone complains about it when there is equal numbers or 1v1's.
Yes 3-4 snipes when you are outnumbered will kill you aswell, or 3 crystal frags. But atleast those you can dodge from range.
Yes. It irritates me when I get Xv1ed and 2 templars are there spamming Radiant on me at 100%...
That's probably what most people are annoyed at. I rarley see peopel spam killersblade/executioner/mages fury when people are at almost or full health. Only jesusbeam :PEU | PC2 -
Parafrost✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »Master_Kas wrote: »AddictionX wrote: »No, i took it the way i took it ...but thanks for telling me how i took it?(which by the way was not the way i took it lol) I guess standing up for my opinion makes me a tough guy ok lol anyways back to the topic.
Hell yea it's lol worthy and ill legit agree to it give those beams to everyone and the range for the same channeled time.
I'm not upset about templars and their abilities, its one skill and it happens to belong to templars that is all... lets stop the false accusations and im not really upset about the skill either... but thanks again for telling me im upset!
Glad to see the cp thing is being brought into it the thread peoples are making progress
"literally any class can completely nullify the damage" ~Great I'll call your bluff please show it with viable photos, stats, and videos! Many thanks!
Damage shield, Heal through it, Block, Purge it, Interrupt it.
[snip]
Take yourself up on your own challenge. If you want a ranged, undodgeable execute roll a Templar. I want to see your videos of how well you play it. I doubt it would go well, when you don't even understand the basics of the game claiming you can't counter such an ability.
[edited for flamming]
I think the people complaining mostly is because of those who hides in zergs with 3-4 templars spamming jesusbeam at max range, where you can't interupt it, or block (since then OOS) or dodgeroll it.
Don't think anyone complains about it when there is equal numbers or 1v1's.
Yes 3-4 snipes when you are outnumbered will kill you aswell, or 3 crystal frags. But atleast those you can dodge from range.
Yes. It irritates me when I get Xv1ed and 2 templars are there spamming Radiant on me at 100%...
That's probably what most people are annoyed at. I rarley see peopel spam killersblade/executioner/mages fury when people are at almost or full health. Only jesusbeam :P
And then they expect everyone to be a vampire/use support skills or block when fighting a group... or basically not be a dk at that point because wrecking blow has a instant cast against a 2.9 second radiant destruction and I'm not getting ganged by x number of ppl trying to kill the person that's using RD on me That *** has diminishing returns and isnt apart of my build that I want to run. No one even uses radiant(atleast for the 13 templar fights i was in). Its mostly proxy det, entropy, top charge then dawnbreaker and some jabs as a finisher added with Purifying light as a dot or start off with dark flare. Pre-fight, they spam Dark Flare.0 -
Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
More like it lol.
Combat Time count in order of appearance:
1) stamina classes: 11 seconds
2) stamina nightblades:13 seconds
3) magicka sorcs: 15 seconds
4) magicka templar: 6-8 seconds (Rd beam for 6 and 8 for SE buff animation)
Stats and gear for all parties?
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- Guild-lead for MV
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✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »Thanks for your feedback on this ability, everyone. We did take a look at this ability just to make sure it was working properly and as intended, and it is. There are some circumstances where it can feasibly hit pretty hard, but that's ok in our eyes and we don't currently have plans to change its functionality. It's also worth noting that the way our Death Recap UI works is it combines all tickets of one channel together into one entry, so it may appear as though Radiant Destruction has some outrageous damage at first.
For those who missed the memo, I thought I'd repost. This is from page 4 in this thread.2 -
staracino_ESO✭✭✭✭For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I know you are trying to prove a point here... but if you don't weave in any attacks with the others you are not comparing them properly. Radiant cannot weave anything in, while all of those others can, which greatly reduces their kill time.6 -
AddictionX✭✭✭✭staracino_ESO wrote: »For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
I know you are trying to prove a point here... but if you don't weave in any attacks with the others you are not comparing them properly. Radiant cannot weave anything in, while all of those others can, which greatly reduces their kill time.
That would make sense if they started designing skills depending on how well you can weave them but they don't.... which i think is part of the problem with this balance thing across the board. The player also did cancel the said skill with a block in it so I don't see a problem with it, which is faster than if you weaved a light attack. Also its undodgable and has very generous range.
It did not start hitting for 9k-ish until 9 percent hp- executioner.
It did not start hitting for 9k-ish until 23 percent hp- killers blade.
It did not start to hit for 6k-ish until 25 percent hp- mages fury.
From the beginning RD hit for 2.6k and criting 3.8k ending with two ticks of 7k and 10k at low hp.
Not to mention the amount of "hits" they took from each said skill.
While weaving is here to stay they never said it was intended, thats why alot of skills perform the way they do cause it was not taken into consideration.... I think Darkbrother hood will better address it though as they look at the stamina skillsEdited by AddictionX on March 15, 2016 11:57AM1 -
staracino_ESO✭✭✭✭I am not 100% sure, we would need a green post to confirm it, but I think they ARE designing abilities with weaving in mind. Otherwise certain builds would be leagues ahead of others in terms of PvE dps when they incorporated weaving into their rotations.
Canceling instant skills with quick animations versus weaving are two completely separate things, since one of them makes a fast skill slightly faster, while the other adds quite a bit of damage into the process.0 -
Parafrost✭✭✭staracino_ESO wrote: »I am not 100% sure, we would need a green post to confirm it, but I think they ARE designing abilities with weaving in mind. Otherwise certain builds would be leagues ahead of others in terms of PvE dps when they incorporated weaving into their rotations.
Canceling instant skills with quick animations versus weaving are two completely separate things, since one of them makes a fast skill slightly faster, while the other adds quite a bit of damage into the process.
weaving is adding extra damage o.o. That might be false calculations too since you are using light attacks/medium attacks to count as the damage of executioner/killers blade/endless fury. I think jules intention was to test the raw damage of the skill without weaving but animation canceling. ani canceling actually cuts down the time of executioner by a considerable amount especially for me in pvp. by the time i do 1 regular executioner, i can do 2 with block canceling.1 -
Hektik_V✭✭✭✭✭staracino_ESO wrote: »I am not 100% sure, we would need a green post to confirm it, but I think they ARE designing abilities with weaving in mind. Otherwise certain builds would be leagues ahead of others in terms of PvE dps when they incorporated weaving into their rotations.
Canceling instant skills with quick animations versus weaving are two completely separate things, since one of them makes a fast skill slightly faster, while the other adds quite a bit of damage into the process.
weaving is adding extra damage o.o. That might be false calculations too since you are using light attacks/medium attacks to count as the damage of executioner/killers blade/endless fury. I think jules intention was to test the raw damage of the skill without weaving but animation canceling. ani canceling actually cuts down the time of executioner by a considerable amount especially for me in pvp. by the time i do 1 regular executioner, i can do 2 with block canceling.
Go back to leveling young buck4 -
Parafrost✭✭✭staracino_ESO wrote: »I am not 100% sure, we would need a green post to confirm it, but I think they ARE designing abilities with weaving in mind. Otherwise certain builds would be leagues ahead of others in terms of PvE dps when they incorporated weaving into their rotations.
Canceling instant skills with quick animations versus weaving are two completely separate things, since one of them makes a fast skill slightly faster, while the other adds quite a bit of damage into the process.
weaving is adding extra damage o.o. That might be false calculations too since you are using light attacks/medium attacks to count as the damage of executioner/killers blade/endless fury. I think jules intention was to test the raw damage of the skill without weaving but animation canceling. ani canceling actually cuts down the time of executioner by a considerable amount especially for me in pvp. by the time i do 1 regular executioner, i can do 2 with block canceling.
Go back to leveling young buck
I have a v16 ._...0 -
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✭✭✭✭For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
More like it lol.
Combat Time count in order of appearance:
1) stamina classes: 11 seconds
2) stamina nightblades:13 seconds
3) magicka sorcs: 15 seconds
4) magicka templar: 6-8 seconds (Rd beam for 6 and 8 for SE buff animation)
Stats and gear for all parties?
Stats and gear would divulge that the test wasn't actually a test and artificially proved only the results she wanted to find. There's more accurate criticism in the thread she made, but a run down:- no LA weaves with the other executes, something you can't do with RD
- no consideration of the easier and more abundant counters RD suffers from that the others do not
She was looking for a nerf to the skill, and then posts a pic of her NB with ~4k mregen, ~47k magicka, ~3.5k spell damage, ~50% crit - because balance yo, it's what we're after
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Minno✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭For whoever wanted comparisonshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em46ajNfuTU&feature=youtube_gdata_player
More like it lol.
Combat Time count in order of appearance:
1) stamina classes: 11 seconds
2) stamina nightblades:13 seconds
3) magicka sorcs: 15 seconds
4) magicka templar: 6-8 seconds (Rd beam for 6 and 8 for SE buff animation)
Stats and gear for all parties?
Stats and gear would divulge that the test wasn't actually a test and artificially proved only the results she wanted to find. There's more accurate criticism in the thread she made, but a run down:- no LA weaves with the other executes, something you can't do with RD
- no consideration of the easier and more abundant counters RD suffers from that the others do not
She was looking for a nerf to the skill, and then posts a pic of her NB with ~4k mregen, ~47k magicka, ~3.5k spell damage, ~50% crit - because balance yo, it's what we're after .
Partly why I keep pushing for that info.
Maybe I'm just to used to seeing Asayre's threads with detailed stats, situations, mob defenses, etc in regards to skill assessment.
But that's the way I want to see "nerf threads" resolved; match the numbers to the practicalities because the two are not separate from each other.Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
- Guild-lead for MV
- Filthy Casual1 -
Mrs_Quietus✭✭✭Mrs_Quietus wrote: »Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD
Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow
#bringbackblindingflashes
Just reposting, looks like some didn't read the whole post....I do agree that it does too much dmg before execute range. This is for people saying there are no counters to it. I also agree that its nigh impossible to get away from when outnumbered.
Believe me, I would rather have Blinding Flashes back, buff the damage(or add knock back) to Radial/Empowering/Cresent Sweep to compete with DB/DragonLeap/Meteor and not get hate whispers for "cheesing" or "exploiting" non Class ulitmates, and delete RD from the game.
#bringbackblindingflashesEdited by Mrs_Quietus on March 15, 2016 4:22PMAldmeri Dominion HeisenZerg & Fantasia
Templar *Lyric Quietus*
Night Blade *E'ryyn Quietus*
Sorcerer *Kira Quietus*
Daggerfall Covenant K Hole GM
Templar Healer *Lyryc*
Templar DPS *Lyrikida*
Night Blade *Lyric Amaryllis*
DragonKnight *Lyric Enya*
#bringbackblindingflashes
#AwaitingCU
Youtube Channel:
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Mrs_Quietus✭✭✭KennanTheCold wrote: »Mrs_Quietus wrote: »Magic, Stamina, Distance, and Close up ways to counter RD
Bash
Block
Don't roll
Don't mist form
Stonefist
Crushing Shock
Deepbreath
Flame Reach
WB
Magnum Shot
Javelin
Power Bash
Cloak
Purge
Purify
Crystal Frag
Familiar Explosion
Prison
Silver Shards(if vamp)
Dawnbreaker(if vamp)
Turn Undead(if vamp)
Fear
Meteor
Fire Rune
Drain(vamp)
LOS
Howl(WW)
Dragonleap
Soul Tether
Incapacitating Strike
Agony
Petrify
Any Shield(Hardened, Rock, Blazing, Magic Harness, Healing Ward)
Toppling(when it works)
Luminous Shards
Streak
Venom Arrow
#bringbackblindingflashes
Not sure if anyone else said this, but you forgot one @Mrs_Quietus, Explosive charge is also an interrupt iirc.
Overall good summary glad your on team templar.
Toppling charge is there. But explosive charge has an AOE interrupt.
Shame it doesn't work...
If my toppling/explosive was reliable, i wouldn't use RD to be honest.Aldmeri Dominion HeisenZerg & Fantasia
Templar *Lyric Quietus*
Night Blade *E'ryyn Quietus*
Sorcerer *Kira Quietus*
Daggerfall Covenant K Hole GM
Templar Healer *Lyryc*
Templar DPS *Lyrikida*
Night Blade *Lyric Amaryllis*
DragonKnight *Lyric Enya*
#bringbackblindingflashes
#AwaitingCU
Youtube Channel:
*Mr. & Mrs. Quietus*
https://youtube.com/channel/UC-P7vLjk9QC8q98rWiSY-Rg0
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