blabafat wrote: »

Idinuse wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

Right right right

You guys are right. I was at a fully buffed radiant with the amount of magicka I had, and it's at execute range. Just like @eserras7b16_ESO stated, it doesn't matter how much the tick was at that point.

Agreed. My mistake.

Yet, providing no constructive criticism on my opinion and simply saying "seriously blab?" or "stfu blab" doesn't progress the conversation.

You guys are right about it not mattering how much it hit for if the person is at execute range. However, I still believe that the damage this skill does while not on execute range is too high. Other executioner abilities(I'm comparing because everyone else did) don't hit nearly as hard when used at full health. I realize this is a channeled, so it will naturally do more damage to make up for the cast time. However, if it's appropriate to compare my radiant tick to an executioner, then it's appropriate to compare the full health damage of each ability.

Having one OP ability doesn't make a class balanced. To balance a class, you don't make 1 thing OP and say that it's leveled now.

Funny thing blaba, I've never ever seen you call for any sort of bug fix or point at broken and non synergizing passives for Templars. Just that your Templar is strong, Templars are doing fine and nerf heals (later tuned to be a LoS fix call for BoL in particular) and now a nerf (call it toning down as much as you want) to the only execute mag Templars have, which for everyone else that isn't you does pretty much what a channeled execute is expected to do. Execute.

I'm glad that your particular build works so good for you with your CPs, just don't ruin it for the rest of us that are not quite there yet, and may even strive for another build that isn't yours exactly.

Numerous posts I've given suggestions as to what should be changed. I've talked about synergy from our passives on multiple posts.

@Dredlord
Everyone here has a bias. A lot of the people arguing against me are magicka templars. I'm arguing against radiant as a magicka templar, and then there are players in this thread who don't play magicka templar and think the skull is op.

Everyone has a subjective point of view. Majority of templars will defend it. Majority of non templars will argue against it

As a Stamplar I would rather have blinding flashes

@blabafat Admitted he made a mistake, can we all stop bashing him now?

This not the time to divide ourselves my Templar brethren !

We don't want to get too proficient at this tactic or the nerf bat will targ.... wait we're Templars. We're always getting nerfed.

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Puffy: Can you point out which calculations he made at all? Seriously. Point out where he was wrong in terms of calculations. The only "calculation" he did was rounding down the 17,851 tick to 17k.
I agree that if he was going to propose a nerf to an ability he should have provided more data and context, but this was an extreme example intended to draw attention to an ability that he objectively thinks is overpowered.

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Just like overhealing is wasted healing, almost that entire tick was wasted damage. ZoS could improve the issue by always displaying the effective damage so that people that are ignorant of game mechanics don't post irrelevant videos.

Does radiant destruction still tick every half second? If so, even 3k (in PvP) per tick is 2x too high for the non-execute range. I typically can do a bit more damage in 3sec by spamming executioner in execute range, but with a 5m tether I have much less time on target than with any of my casters.

I do find it fairly funny that many of the people that were complaining about Templar healing (BoL) are now complaining about Templar DPS. People should be careful what they ask for...

Templars are turning on their own now

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I think most Templars would give up RD if it were replaced with an equally good positional skill, defensive skill or something. But the idea needs to be fully formed before coming on this forum otherwise it is just asking for trouble, lol.

Quit bashing blabafat!! He said he got it wrong. Move on now. Nothing to see here.

Wreuntzylla wrote: »

Just like overhealing is wasted healing, almost that entire tick was wasted damage. ZoS could improve the issue by always displaying the effective damage so that people that are ignorant of game mechanics don't post irrelevant videos.

So if my executioner hit you while you were at 2% for 149,000 damage (500 effective damage), that wouldn't raise any concern out of you knowing that the ability scales in power starting at 50% health? You wouldn't think the scaling might be excessive from 50%-25% at all? Damage that high indicates high scaling/damage in general. [snip]


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They've wasted over a year trying to find a balanced place for Radiant Destruction but it's clear it doesn't work. Either it's too weak or it's too strong. Why not just give us back our AOE CC blinding flashes and let us have dmg somewhere else. We NEED a AOE CC, badly!

AfkNinja wrote: »

They've wasted over a year trying to find a balanced place for Radiant Destruction but it's clear it doesn't work. Either it's too weak or it's too strong. Why not just give us back our AOE CC blinding flashes and let us have dmg somewhere else. We NEED a AOE CC, badly!

I agree with this, there just isn't a balance point for that ability, and I would love for blinding flashes to come back, also 80% health and stam regen from radiant aura low key.

I'll take the win here. Seriously, Templars have been underpowered for, what, 6 straight months? Completing the kill 20
Templars can take a few days (weeks?) while kill 20 anything else can take under 10 minutes.

Personally other than my 2 month Stamplar experiment (caused by the original RO nerf breaking my build) I've been a magicka Templar the whole time. If now my style of sitting in the 2nd row of a PVP battle spamming RO becomes the FOTM than so be it. I've been hit with enough wrecking blows, fears, and crystal frags in Cyrodiil to last a lifetime. I'll take the win and enjoy my time in Tamriel at the OP'd class while I can.

With that said, can someone please explain HOW it was buffed? If my console Templar currently does 9k (it's like 8894 but I'm not in front of my tv) base damage, what will that number look like? A few months back it was way over 10k ... might have even been 12k ... as a VR10 before getting nerfed down to the 6k tickle range.

The answer to this question will probably let you know if it's actually OP'd or not.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

I'll take the win here. Seriously, Templars have been underpowered for, what, 6 straight months? Completing the kill 20
Templars can take a few days (weeks?) while kill 20 anything else can take under 10 minutes.

Personally other than my 2 month Stamplar experiment (caused by the original RO nerf breaking my build) I've been a magicka Templar the whole time. If now my style of sitting in the 2nd row of a PVP battle spamming RO becomes the FOTM than so be it. I've been hit with enough wrecking blows, fears, and crystal frags in Cyrodiil to last a lifetime. I'll take the win and enjoy my time in Tamriel at the OP'd class while I can.

With that said, can someone please explain HOW it was buffed? If my console Templar currently does 9k (it's like 8894 but I'm not in front of my tv) base damage, what will that number look like? A few months back it was way over 10k ... might have even been 12k ... as a VR10 before getting nerfed down to the 6k tickle range.

The answer to this question will probably let you know if it's actually OP'd or not.

Theres maybe, MAYBE a 10-15% damage buff given the additional CP available between thaumateurge and elementalist. If you have maxed out CP