Uhh..Radiant Destruction NEEDS TO BE TONED DOWN

Akinos

Radburn wrote: »

Akinos wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

you know this video isn't a great example blab, your radiant hit after your prox det did, meaning he was on 1% so he was taking an amazing amount of execute damage + your current max magic

It's sad that everybody is crying nerf already. RD has been this way. And only only does that kinda of damage on players with EXTREMELY low health. Such low health that anything would of killed them at that point. People are only looking at the fat 17k tick on somebody with 1% hp and disregarding everything else involved in such numbers.

This!

The 17K you are seeing is the full 330% increase to damage + critical damage + 20% increase using radiant oppression. You only get that kind of damage at the very lowest portion of health, I would say less than 10%. For execute phases on bosses we're talking 1, maybe 2 full cast before the target is dead. In Pvp for it to tick at 17k it would mean the player's health is so low he is already dead.

There's no doubt it is dangerous now with the Cp changes and not being able to dodge roll out of it. People need to recondition their brains and realize Templars are no longer guaranteed kills, we bite back now.

True that, stam builds are raging because channeled skills are the only reliable way to damage them through their shuffle+dodgeroll+vigor spam.

vyndral13preub18_ESO

Tomato wrote: »

All you see today is Proxy Det and radiant destruction spammed at 90%

And yet here we are with a nerf radiant thread and not a nerf proxy thread. It is almost like those other classes only want skills they dont have nerfed...

TheDarkShadow

If someone in pvp was hit that hard by Radiant destruction, it's mean they are already dead and even a fart in their general direction could do the killing blow.

SirDopey

Well, first, lets address the issue of my Stam NB being able to do 27K Wrecking Blows on players with 100% health. Once we've dealt with that issue, then let us tone down radiant.....

AriBoh

vyndral13preub18_ESO wrote: »

Tomato wrote: »

All you see today is Proxy Det and radiant destruction spammed at 90%

And yet here we are with a nerf radiant thread and not a nerf proxy thread. It is almost like those other classes only want skills they dont have nerfed...

QFT

Rudyard

The last glimpse of the enemy health bar prior to the proxy det is 9837 health. The proxy det hits for 9391, leaving him with 446 health when your radiant hits. And as others have pointed out, that's at max execute and is buffed by you having 90% magicka.

GazettE

Delete this thread plsssssss

Zheg

If you're going to make a case for damage tweaks blab, you should use a better example. You picked someone in perfect execute range, you were at almost full magicka, you crit, and they probably weren't wearing much/any impen.

How much do you think a buffed Executioner crit would do in that scenario?

babylon

Forum for PVP whining here ---> PvP Combat & Skills

Riga_Mortis

So sick of these please nerf threads

SemiD4rkness

The "Top 1%" are the ones who cry the most .....
Are you even serious? @blabafat
Never seen a good player saying "my 22k shields are OP pls nerf" or "My leap hits too hard nerf pls" ... You have got to be kidding me.

Dread_Guy

@SemiD4rkness ZoS doesn't listen to templars anyways so we're fine

Elektrakosh

That's the best thing I have ever saw! Is about time Templars had something devastating.

No nerfs please.

failkiwib16_ESO

Sorry, but have you read the tooltip of Radiant Destruction?

The damage goes up the more full your magicka pool is. Your execute is good, because your regen is probably high enough for you to maintain it.... Due to pve-gear, I use the other morph that gives way less damage, because my magicka is never 90% full when I execute, so I might as well gain heals from it -.-

Cinbri

Finishing someone when he is on 3%hp and say it is OP is awesome.

Kaliki

@blablafat: Are you serious?
I am sure that you're aware of the state of Templars. I could understand if you compared this tick to other fully buffed executes at extremely low health but simply crying nerf ...

Templars damn well need to wreck face as this is all we have. No cloak, no streak.
Plus it ticks only once per second now. It can be countered by everyone who doesnt die the first tick.

Nifty2g

Lets not all bash Blab i think he just made a little mistake

Troneon

danno8 wrote: »

blabafat wrote: »

This is ridiculous. 17K tick on a player, and I don't stack full damage. A friend of mine got a 19k tick. PER TICK? That's absurd, and it's like 1.6 all over again. Radiant destruction shouldn't be dodgeable, but the damage needs to be toned down FOR SURE.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfGHuM3ZKoU

Dude. You have Major Sorcery up, Minor Sorcery up, the guys is at 1% health and it is an execute skill.

It damn well should hit for 17k if you are specced for high dps in that scenario.

THIS ^^....

It's already been nerfed a number of times now...for all you know that guys could of had a crap build too...with low spell resistance or not many champion points?

PainfulFAFA

Nifty2g wrote: »

you know this video isn't a great example blab, your radiant hit after your prox det did, meaning he was on 1% so he was taking an amazing amount of execute damage + your current max magic

This.
The other guy from that other thread was complaining about a 22k jesus beam when his kill recap clearly shows he had his spell resistance reduced by Pierce Armor.

olsborg

Agree with OP, radiant destruction is too much, its unblockable, undodgeable and it hits like 5x endless fury's at once.

Joy_Division

No it doesn't. It only ticked that high because your opponent had less than 2% health.

Look at your video.

After your last biting jabs hit, Crypta had 9837 health.

Then your prox det exploded.

For 9391 damage.

Which meant Crypta had 446 health. 446 out of 24000. That's 1.8%.

You never liked this skill and always claimed it was OP before ZoS bugged it out. This video is confirmation bias. This is not a fair representation of what it does when fights are in the balance. Youare selectively picking the absolute best possible circumstance and equating it as a common standard.

Edit: See others have pointed this out. Didn't mean to pile on but I do wish people would in general be more cognizant of mitigating factors in the videos/screenshots they post when they ask ZoS to nerf something.

Iyas

Joy_Division wrote: »

No it doesn't. It only ticked that high because your opponent had less than 2% health.

Look at your video.

After your last biting jabs hit, Crypta had 9837 health.

Then your prox det exploded.

For 9391 damage.

Which meant Crypta had 446 health. 446 out of 24000. That's 1.8%.

You never liked this skill and always claimed it was OP before ZoS bugged it out. This video is confirmation bias. This is not a fair representation of what it does when fights are in the balance. Youare selectively picking the absolute best possible circumstance and equating it as a common standard.

Edit: See others have pointed this out. Didn't mean to pile on but I do wish people would in general be more cognizant of mitigating factors in the videos/screenshots they post when they ask ZoS to nerf something.

Sry have to agree here

SemiD4rkness

olsborg wrote: »

Agree with OP, radiant destruction is too much, its unblockable, undodgeable and it hits like 5x endless fury's at once.

V16 Altmer Sorceror, magicka.
V16 Imperial Nightblade, stamina

Where's the LOL button?

Lava_Croft

Don't think the guys hiding in zergs doing nothing but spamming Jesus Beam like your thread too much...

Bigevilpeter

Oh come on leave freaking templars alone, ZOS will look for any excuse to nerf them.

So what if Jesus beam is too strong, we have no survivability/mobility etc, this just make up for it.

KingYogi415

Yah and lets buff sorcs while we are at it because blalance right?

Itoq

Channeled beams like RD and Soul Strike are annoying for some reason.

Top that with that Templar skills haven't been hard hitting skills near on level with skills from other classes and weapons.

And you get people annoyed at a skill like RD.

RD is also not a fun to cast/slot skill - at least for me. I wish the designers would put Templar strengths into something more interesting than RD.

mistermutiny89

My idea on Radiant morphs?

Keep the magicka morph that self heals then make a stamina morph that snares the target whilst channeling.

Remove radiant destruction. Sorted.

You crying nerfs on Templars is a bit uncouth though blab. Pull yourself together.

DEATHquidox

Ra'Shtar wrote: »

Well he was in execute range and it was a crit, his bad for not using impen.

Edit: I have seen far more op things like a crystal frag hitting for 23k in PvP

Crystal frags is also the only damaging ability that sorcs have basically what so ever

Mr_Nobody

The high damage ticks only happen when the receiving end is *very* low hp, meaning there is no real difference if the hit was 5k or 20k.

If you start channeling on a person below 50%, lets say that's 13k hp, ticks usually go like 4k, 6k and then boom whatever insane amount. The guy may see huge numbers in his death recap.

If a person is not blocking, 1 darkflare into jesus beam usually does it. This is what was in 1.6 also.

I like it ~