donJay wrote: »

Great video. Can't wait to see this in action

Gonna be great with a few tweaks

@frozywozy keep forgetting to do it...

I have been running essentially the same setup for a few weeks now.

I still suffers from DK problems: you have to block, you can't really maneuver, damage is low compared to NB or any stamina build. Very hard.to play solo with this.

Strength of the build is the synergy of DK skills: it's still the best designed class. Group play is really strong.

i do fine against average sorcs and NBs with this build. I feel like this build is trying to make the best of the *** situation we have been put in.

Bfish22090 wrote: »

nice build
im working on one now with
5 light armor armor master
2 magnus s/b
maelstrom resto
2 blood spawn 1 heavy 1 medium
3 willpower 1 block reduction 2 spell damage

i was torn between kags and armor master, but being really tank helps alot

i was actually thinking about a build just like that in 1.7 but didnt bother to test it out. Using harness to proc the armour master. Let me know how it goes !

Ishammael wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

Bfish22090 wrote: »

nice build
im working on one now with
5 light armor armor master
2 magnus s/b
maelstrom resto
2 blood spawn 1 heavy 1 medium
3 willpower 1 block reduction 2 spell damage

i was torn between kags and armor master, but being really tank helps alot

i was actually thinking about a build just like that in 1.7 but didnt bother to test it out. Using harness to proc the armour master. Let me know how it goes !

I thought about this build, too. Not sure if the armor bonus is worth the amount of damage you give up.

Not quite sure, just haveing volatile / bloodspawn and the CP passive that gives you resist based of your equiped shield which you probably will unlock anyways from all the block cost reduction you throw in should put you arround 30k ish spell resist in light armour.

So first thoughts from this build:

Holy hell am I slow.

If you don't get the rotation/buffs going properly, you are super squishy.
Even with block cost enchants, your stam still melts away.

But, when its all going well vs groups of 4-8, pinning them and getting 1-2 others to hit them is fun and effective.
And I've found the talons/petrify/whip combo to be effective 1on1.
With some tweaks, and maybe switching for heavy Kags, this has some promise.

DKsUnite wrote: »

i do fine against average sorcs and NBs with this build. I feel like this build is trying to make the best of the *** situation we have been put in.

Core problem right there. If you ask me, you should have a fair chance against good and very good sorcs/nbs as well.

Ishammael wrote: »

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

i do fine against average sorcs and NBs with this build. I feel like this build is trying to make the best of the *** situation we have been put in.

Core problem right there. If you ask me, you should have a fair chance against good and very good sorcs/nbs as well.

In a 1v1/duel scenerio -- sure, you'll do fine against NBs and Sorcs.
Open world? Way too hard given DK limitations, which is what I think Leo is talking about.

Yes, indeed. If you're equally skilled on sorc/nb as you're on mag DK, you're always better with them, in every situation.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Don't you struggle without a gap closer though? Don't most people just cloak/streak or roll dodge then sprint away?

yup.

r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »

DKsUnite wrote: »

i do fine against average sorcs and NBs with this build. I feel like this build is trying to make the best of the *** situation we have been put in.

Core problem right there. If you ask me, you should have a fair chance against good and very good sorcs/nbs as well.

The guy was just saying that he has problem with average Sorcs and NBs so I was saying I do fine against them. I do fine against any sorc or NB. Might not win all of them but who does?

Fyaal wrote: »

So first thoughts from this build:

Holy hell am I slow.

If you don't get the rotation/buffs going properly, you are super squishy.
Even with block cost enchants, your stam still melts away.

But, when its all going well vs groups of 4-8, pinning them and getting 1-2 others to hit them is fun and effective.
And I've found the talons/petrify/whip combo to be effective 1on1.
With some tweaks, and maybe switching for heavy Kags, this has some promise.

Yeh you really need to play this perfectly to get it to work. I'm still trying to think of ways to get the dmg high enough with heavy coz that's the main reason I don't run it.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Don't you struggle without a gap closer though? Don't most people just cloak/streak or roll dodge then sprint away?

Not really. In a couple of 1v1 I have noticed I couldn't quite finish them off because of no gap closer but usually it's no issue. If you time your CCs you can keep them near you. Invasion is too much stam to burn and chains has no CC so it's a wasted slot so not really an option to run a gap closer.

I think he means going extra magicka over going for the extra 2pc spell damage.

DKsUnite wrote: »

@Fyaal Btw are you using choking or burning talons? I swapped to choking like after the first night and it makes a big difference

I know... But the dmg on burning is pretty good.

I'm using burning right now. Ill try swapping and see if theres a big difference.