Poll: DO YOU WANT A FREE RESPEC?

CirithValaria · March 2016

Yes

jbcrocks wrote: »

CirithValaria wrote: »

MMORPG: Will players be getting a free respec of their abilities with the Thieves Guild patch?
MattFiror: No, it’s not a good idea to make everyone respec their entire character whenever a DLC is released. Until we have the ability to respec just one skill line at a time, we won’t be doing any more forced respecs. We do have plans for this, and we’ll get it in as soon as we can.

They should at least do optional ones..

Indeed they should, I do have the money for these but I lack the will to pay it.
The thing ZOS has always failed to deliver no matter subject is - options and variety.
Its always "yes or no"....only the extremities, wheres the middle way.. the golden mean that usually makes vast majority happy?

The fact that we need to dig their response for this subject from 3rd party interview and not on forums - makes me sometimes feel: "whats the point on these forums".
Anyways...this matter seems affecting me stronger than it should, I'm still so deeply disappointed about grouping tool battle-leveling changes that everything seem dark - I apologize!

Tdroid · March 2016

Yes

Of course. Abilities changed and that has always warranted a free respec in ESOs past. Seems fair to me, since the changes to the character isn't on us when ZOS changes the abilies.

GnGEmpire · March 2016

Yes

There's only 1 explanation as to why there wasn't a free respec

ZOS F'ed up badly, so bad they don't seem to have commented on this topic yet, which is a F up in teself

GaldorP · March 2016

No

Only if it's not automatic (forced).

I have 8 vet chars with around 200 skill points each, some of them with very unique builds that I haven't played for months. It would take me a long time to remember all builds and ridistribute all the skill points. If I want to change a build I can always just do a remorph which costs almost nothing.

I think the best solution for everyone would be to make skill respecs cost 1 gold per skill point for a few days or give each character a temporary free respec item by mail that will only work until next week's maintenance.

Kathrein · March 2016

Yes

yes i do, i have 8 veteran character, too much money to respec them all

Tandor · March 2016

No

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

Kilnerdyne · March 2016

Yes

Shunravi wrote: »

nemisan wrote: »

We, as a gaming population, whined about the free respecs with updates, zos stopped them: end of story

Very few people were involved in this massive change.

Reevster · March 2016

No

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Reevster wrote: »

No , go out and earn it.

No, you go out and start using your brain.
How the hell should anyone who has multiple characters, even 8 or more, "earn" it? Can we play all characters simultaneously in order to "earn" enough gold to respec every single one of them???

Maybe you have too many chars? Get a life lol.

jbcrocks · March 2016

Yes

Tandor wrote: »

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

I don't think it's pointless since they have given us optional respecs before.

MacCait · March 2016

Yes

I was just naturally expecting a free respec... I didn't realise there was a possibility we might not get one

Animal_Mother · March 2016

Yes

I don't think anyone here is asking for forced respecs; we want the option to respec.

Forced respecs were done at various times in the past and due to the immersive ui, players may not know their abilities were reset until engaging in combat. But the option or low cost respecs would have been an excellent idea for this DLC, considering the changes to abilities and Champion Point systems.

I believe I spent 16-17k respeccing my mains abilities and Champion Points. I'm not doing this for the alts.

Come to think of it, I haven't seen a low cost or free respec since ZOS added the option to the Crown $tore.

Tandor · March 2016

No

jbcrocks wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

I don't think it's pointless since they have given us optional respecs before.

I meant it's pointless in that everyone is going to say "yes". There are already countless other threads on which people can post their opinions, with no real additional benefit in running a one-sided poll with a guaranteed outcome.

mattymaats · March 2016

Yes

Tandor wrote: »

jbcrocks wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

I don't think it's pointless since they have given us optional respecs before.

I meant it's pointless in that everyone is going to say "yes". There are already countless other threads on which people can post their opinions, with no real additional benefit in running a one-sided poll with a guaranteed outcome.

Yet you still voted

jbcrocks · March 2016

Yes

Tandor wrote: »

jbcrocks wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

I don't think it's pointless since they have given us optional respecs before.

I meant it's pointless in that everyone is going to say "yes". There are already countless other threads on which people can post their opinions, with no real additional benefit in running a one-sided poll with a guaranteed outcome.

We're letting zos know our stand on this. Doing something is better than doing nothing about it.

Saltypretzels · March 2016

Yes

Ridiculous that they did this to us.

Ourorboros · March 2016

Yes

Supposedly free respecs were nerfed due to complaints from players unhappy about having to redo their skills. I thought it would be worthwhile to complain to Customer Support about haveing to pay for respecs when the reason is because of changes to the game. I got an eye-opening response from CS.

First, there is this piece of BS from Matt Frior:

MMORPG: Will players be getting a free respec of their abilities with the Thieves Guild patch?
MF: No, it’s not a good idea to make everyone respec their entire character whenever a DLC is released. Until we have the ability to respec just one skill line at a time, we won’t be doing any more forced respecs. We do have plans for this, and we’ll get it in as soon as we can.

Promises, promises!

And then there is the real reason for no more free respec:

While I am unable to reimburse you the gold for redistributing your skills and points, I want to make sure you're aware you can purchase scrolls for skill and attribute respecification in the Crown Store.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Outrageous. :'(

Mirelurk · March 2016

Yes

Yup, ZOS not even bothering to hide it.

Shameful.

Benie · March 2016

Doesn't really matter

When the Imperial City patch hit and I saw my skills reset, I was rather annoyed. But I never complained on the forum.
Thought "Alright.. fine. I'll try to make this work".

A warning (or an optional thing) before resetting specs, would be nice. Instead of "Yo, patch has hit! We've reset the skills of all of your chars for free! Please clap."

newtinmpls · March 2016

Doesn't really matter

Tandor wrote: »

It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

heck no, as an altoholic myself (and I play two accounts - yes I have it bad - I love free respecs. I don't try to do all my characters skills at once, just slowly build back and then I note 'oh, never did add in such and so skill' so it ends up being very organic pleasant thing.

Rva_Kun · March 2016

Doesn't really matter

I'd prefer Undaunted Vendor Monday through Tuesday instead.

Benie · March 2016

Doesn't really matter

Ourorboros wrote: »

And then there is the real reason for no more free respec:

While I am unable to reimburse you the gold for redistributing your skills and points, I want to make sure you're aware you can purchase scrolls for skill and attribute respecification in the Crown Store.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Outrageous. :'(

Corporate greed of the video game industry in a nutshell.

jbcrocks · March 2016

Yes

newtinmpls wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

heck no, as an altoholic myself (and I play two accounts - yes I have it bad - I love free respecs. I don't try to do all my characters skills at once, just slowly build back and then I note 'oh, never did add in such and so skill' so it ends up being very organic pleasant thing.

So basically you want a free respec but you might be annoyed that you'll make a mistake?

jbcrocks · March 2016

Yes

Rva_Kun wrote: »

I'd prefer Undaunted Vendor Monday through Tuesday instead.

No thanks! Only free on weekends coz of work

Rva_Kun · March 2016

Doesn't really matter

jbcrocks wrote: »

Rva_Kun wrote: »

I'd prefer Undaunted Vendor Monday through Tuesday instead.

No thanks! Only free on weekends coz of work

ROFL.

jbcrocks · March 2016

Yes

Benie wrote: »

Ourorboros wrote: »

And then there is the real reason for no more free respec:

While I am unable to reimburse you the gold for redistributing your skills and points, I want to make sure you're aware you can purchase scrolls for skill and attribute respecification in the Crown Store.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

Outrageous. :'(

Corporate greed of the video game industry in a nutshell.

I don't think so because we were given an option before to redo our spec but now they just took it away from us and now I paid 136k gold already..

CaptainBeerDude · March 2016

Yes

Given a choice between a forced respec or no respec after skill balancing, I would rather have the forced respec.

Tandor · March 2016

No

mattymaats wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

jbcrocks wrote: »

Tandor wrote: »

I can think of few more pointless polls, asking people if they would like a free respec is like asking them if they wish they'd been the $1m winner, or asking turkeys if they'd like Christmas to be cancelled.

An optional respec would be fine, but I'm not in favour of forced respecs on logging in especially with a major event like a DLC which is likely to attract a lot of former players back who won't have seen the advance warning and will be immediately put off by the need to rebuild a character they haven't played for a while. It's also a complete pain for we altoholics!

I don't think it's pointless since they have given us optional respecs before.

I meant it's pointless in that everyone is going to say "yes". There are already countless other threads on which people can post their opinions, with no real additional benefit in running a one-sided poll with a guaranteed outcome.

Yet you still voted

That's because regardless of the merits or otherwise of the poll I had an opinion on it.

filthymushroom · March 2016

Yes

lordrichter wrote: »

The problem with the forced respec, like they have done in the past, is that it catches a segment of the player base unaware. They spend time downloading some big huge patch, instead of playing the game, then they log in and have to reassign points, instead of playing the game. People caught unaware may not remember what they had points in. They did not take screen captures or prepare in any way. They are forced to deal with it, even if they could have played for a couple of hours and put off dealing with the changes until later.

It is quite possible that a very large number of currently active players fit into this demographic.

Until ZOS can implement a method where the players can respec on their own terms, they should stay away from the forced respec.

Fortunately, they have indicated that they are working on this.

Allthough I do want it, I get your point and think you are right. ZOS should definately give the player a choice to respec. Or just make the first respec after the patch for free. I also tend to spend quite some cash on respecs after a new DLC/Patch.

charley222 · March 2016

Yes

i play poe and most other game after big patch the skill are reset free. so why not eso maybe because the game store

, i have np too pay for my reset if nothing is change in the game and i make a mistake , but not because developer dont know how too balance the game and change mind every 3 or 4 month this is a joke and have no ending

for player , i think now my reset is 14 k not sure thank you peace

Joy_Division · March 2016

Yes

Jimmy wrote: »

The solution is simple. The complaining happened from the "Forced" respec when you logged in and had all your points given back to you. So they stopped doing that. The solution to satisfy both parties, simply make respec's at the respec shrine cost 1 gold for a duration of 1 week after a major patch update. Then no more complaining from the complainers and it gives people the opportunity to test out and try the changes in skills.

Is this a joke?

Did people really complain about not wasting money?