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Will this game make it past the dark brother hood in its current state?
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Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO will easily make it 10 yrs imo. Many other mmos have done this even wit very little population on the servers. Inb4 ESO will be available for the next console generation probably within 5 yrs ish with paid for character transfer to continue playing ur characters on the new hardware. Jus sayin.
10 years is a long time, there are not that many MMOs out there which made it that long. And with 4 DLCs per year this would be 40 DLCs - there is not really that much space in Tamriel, they would have to expand it to outside Tamriel or DLCs would have to get increasingly smaller over time. ESO is not a sandbox, but a themepark MMO, it has to provide content, content is not player-made nor player-driven, all premade storytelling, no room for players to craft their own stories like in EVE online.
So I do not hope for 10 years - maybe 3 of new content and another 3 to go until it will run out - that is my guess.
I think there is enough space in Tamriel, actually, especially if we get some pretty tiny zones here and there like Hew's Bane.
Check this map out:
There are 31 regions that are not within the ones on release plus craglorn, which are the yellow ones.
One of them, Gilane, is not going to be released all at once, as we know that Hew's Bane is part of it. Cut a few other zones in half like that and I think we can have enough zones for 40 DLCs.
And even if we don't cut some zones in half, there are the Oblivion realms too. We have at least 15 to be released if only the Daedric Princes' ones are introduced. So, enough for at least 46 DLCs without expanding to Akavir or Pyandonea for example.Edited by Abeille on March 6, 2016 10:07PMJust so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.2 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭...You forget about that we - the pve and TES fan crowd - do not have any lag at all. That is purely a pvp problem and due to you guys creating zergs. Without you there is no lag problem at all, all running nicely.
I cut this quote chain down because I only responding to the no lag outside of pvp.
That is so far from the truth, that I'm not sure we are playing the same game. There is terrible lag all across the game. Trials, 4 player dungeons, and solo be it Maelstrom Arena or just open world. If you don't like PVP that's fine, but spreading blatant falsehoods like this are not helping anything.
Seriously, I have not experienced any lag in ESO yet - do you want me to say, I would have lag while I experience none? Maybe your expectations are different from mine, to me 100 latency is not lag - you might say it is.
I would want you not to apply your personal expeirence as a universal truth. In Maelstrom Arena for instance. There are several documented examples of lag from both NA and EU players. So I don't believe you can dismiss that and state there is no lag in ESO outside of PVP just because you've not experienced any. I'm inclined to believe it's that you do not spend much time running trials or dungeons more that anything else.
'Of course I don't, I am a casual player with not that much time to play and not even 3 months in the game. But with that I am like most in ESO, I guess, most people have a job and not the time to play excessively. I even think that most are playing solo, because for casual players it is hard to find groups in the short amount of time they have to play. And there is no lag in solo play, so most will experience ESO as lag free. Mr. Firor said, that ESO is an expanded RPG online, not a typical MMO and so is the player base, mainly RPG players who group sometimes but play mainly solo - and they do not have lag issues.Edited by Lysette on March 6, 2016 10:08PM1 -
Elsonso✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭lordrichter wrote: »...You forget about that we - the pve and TES fan crowd - do not have any lag at all. That is purely a pvp problem and due to you guys creating zergs. Without you there is no lag problem at all, all running nicely.
I cut this quote chain down because I only responding to the no lag outside of pvp.
That is so far from the truth, that I'm not sure we are playing the same game. There is terrible lag all across the game. Trials, 4 player dungeons, and solo be it Maelstrom Arena or just open world. If you don't like PVP that's fine, but spreading blatant falsehoods like this are not helping anything.
I haven't personally encountered any open world lag in almost 2 years. I know that those who do group dungeons and trials occasionally mention it, but it is far from being as commonplace as in PvP - yet we are in any event told that the PvP campaigns are full so it doesn't seem to deter people. It exists, and it needs fixing, certainly, but it is not a critical issue for most players, especially outside of PvP. I agree that spreading blatant falsehoods doesn't help anything, but nor does exaggerating the extent and severity of an acknowledged problem.
The falsehood I was addressing was that lag only happens in PVP. That's not true. 'Terrible' is subjective, but when enemies mobs stand in place for a few seconds while the game catches up to the fact they're dead, or when a player sees a resource node and cannot interact with it because it's already been taken. I consider that to be terrible lag.
I don't think the resource node is lag.
It takes a bit for the nodes to disappear because the game hasn't caught up that it's been gathered already. Not sure what else to call that, if not lag.
Yeah, I have not seen anything like that. I often get "out of range" errors with dead mobs, and sometimes LOD is messed up on the chest and they will disappear as I approach, but never what you said. I see PVE lag daily, so it is not that I deny lag, but what I see is relatively small lag in the current combat state. Monsters will die before I can see that they are dead. What I see are abilities that do not fire, which means that the monster is dead already.
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Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO will easily make it 10 yrs imo. Many other mmos have done this even wit very little population on the servers. Inb4 ESO will be available for the next console generation probably within 5 yrs ish with paid for character transfer to continue playing ur characters on the new hardware. Jus sayin.
10 years is a long time, there are not that many MMOs out there which made it that long. And with 4 DLCs per year this would be 40 DLCs - there is not really that much space in Tamriel, they would have to expand it to outside Tamriel or DLCs would have to get increasingly smaller over time. ESO is not a sandbox, but a themepark MMO, it has to provide content, content is not player-made nor player-driven, all premade storytelling, no room for players to craft their own stories like in EVE online.
So I do not hope for 10 years - maybe 3 of new content and another 3 to go until it will run out - that is my guess.
I think there is enough space in Tamriel, actually, especially if we get some pretty tiny zones here and there like Hew's Bane.
Check this map out:
There are 31 regions that are not within the ones on release plus craglorn, which are the yellow ones.
One of them, Gilane, is not going to be released all at once, as we know that Hew's Bane is part of it. Cut a few other zones in half like that and I think we can have enough zones for 40 DLCs.
And even if we don't cut some zones in half, there are the Oblivion realms too. We have at least 15 to be released if only the Daedric Princes' ones are introduced. So, enough for at least 46 DLCs without expanding to Akavir or Pyandonea for example.
Yes, I said thát they would have to get increasingly smaller over time, to fit that 40 DLC scheme - but it will still cost the same and I am not sure, that people will continue to want to pay the same for increasingly less content added. The planes of Oblivion - well, they would loose me at that time, I want to see Tamriel, not Oblivion planes.0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO will easily make it 10 yrs imo. Many other mmos have done this even wit very little population on the servers. Inb4 ESO will be available for the next console generation probably within 5 yrs ish with paid for character transfer to continue playing ur characters on the new hardware. Jus sayin.
10 years is a long time, there are not that many MMOs out there which made it that long. And with 4 DLCs per year this would be 40 DLCs - there is not really that much space in Tamriel, they would have to expand it to outside Tamriel or DLCs would have to get increasingly smaller over time. ESO is not a sandbox, but a themepark MMO, it has to provide content, content is not player-made nor player-driven, all premade storytelling, no room for players to craft their own stories like in EVE online.
So I do not hope for 10 years - maybe 3 of new content and another 3 to go until it will run out - that is my guess.
I think there is enough space in Tamriel, actually, especially if we get some pretty tiny zones here and there like Hew's Bane.
Check this map out:
There are 31 regions that are not within the ones on release plus craglorn, which are the yellow ones.
One of them, Gilane, is not going to be released all at once, as we know that Hew's Bane is part of it. Cut a few other zones in half like that and I think we can have enough zones for 40 DLCs.
And even if we don't cut some zones in half, there are the Oblivion realms too. We have at least 15 to be released if only the Daedric Princes' ones are introduced. So, enough for at least 46 DLCs without expanding to Akavir or Pyandonea for example.
Yes, I said thát they would have to get increasingly smaller over time, to fit that 40 DLC scheme - but it will still cost the same and I am not sure, that people will continue to want to pay the same for increasingly less content added. The planes of Oblivion - well, they would loose me at that time, I want to see Tamriel, not Oblivion planes.
The Thieves Guild will cost 2000 crowns, while Orsinium was 3000. So at least by now smaller DLCs won't necessarily cost the same as big DLCs.
And I think that there was some talk of releasing Mephala's realm a while back. I believe it is still a planned DLC. It is a matter of preference, fair enough, but I wouldn't mind a new Daedric Prince's Realm here and there between my Tamriel zones releases.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Lysette✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO will easily make it 10 yrs imo. Many other mmos have done this even wit very little population on the servers. Inb4 ESO will be available for the next console generation probably within 5 yrs ish with paid for character transfer to continue playing ur characters on the new hardware. Jus sayin.
10 years is a long time, there are not that many MMOs out there which made it that long. And with 4 DLCs per year this would be 40 DLCs - there is not really that much space in Tamriel, they would have to expand it to outside Tamriel or DLCs would have to get increasingly smaller over time. ESO is not a sandbox, but a themepark MMO, it has to provide content, content is not player-made nor player-driven, all premade storytelling, no room for players to craft their own stories like in EVE online.
So I do not hope for 10 years - maybe 3 of new content and another 3 to go until it will run out - that is my guess.
I think there is enough space in Tamriel, actually, especially if we get some pretty tiny zones here and there like Hew's Bane.
Check this map out:
There are 31 regions that are not within the ones on release plus craglorn, which are the yellow ones.
One of them, Gilane, is not going to be released all at once, as we know that Hew's Bane is part of it. Cut a few other zones in half like that and I think we can have enough zones for 40 DLCs.
And even if we don't cut some zones in half, there are the Oblivion realms too. We have at least 15 to be released if only the Daedric Princes' ones are introduced. So, enough for at least 46 DLCs without expanding to Akavir or Pyandonea for example.
Yes, I said thát they would have to get increasingly smaller over time, to fit that 40 DLC scheme - but it will still cost the same and I am not sure, that people will continue to want to pay the same for increasingly less content added. The planes of Oblivion - well, they would loose me at that time, I want to see Tamriel, not Oblivion planes.
The Thieves Guild will cost 2000 crowns, while Orsinium was 3000. So at least by now smaller DLCs won't necessarily cost the same as big DLCs.
And I think that there was some talk of releasing Mephala's realm a while back. I believe it is still a planned DLC. It is a matter of preference, fair enough, but I wouldn't mind a new Daedric Prince's Realm here and there between my Tamriel zones releases.
I was referring to subscription - because it makes sense for a long term player, to subscribe.0 -
Abeille✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭ESO will easily make it 10 yrs imo. Many other mmos have done this even wit very little population on the servers. Inb4 ESO will be available for the next console generation probably within 5 yrs ish with paid for character transfer to continue playing ur characters on the new hardware. Jus sayin.
10 years is a long time, there are not that many MMOs out there which made it that long. And with 4 DLCs per year this would be 40 DLCs - there is not really that much space in Tamriel, they would have to expand it to outside Tamriel or DLCs would have to get increasingly smaller over time. ESO is not a sandbox, but a themepark MMO, it has to provide content, content is not player-made nor player-driven, all premade storytelling, no room for players to craft their own stories like in EVE online.
So I do not hope for 10 years - maybe 3 of new content and another 3 to go until it will run out - that is my guess.
I think there is enough space in Tamriel, actually, especially if we get some pretty tiny zones here and there like Hew's Bane.
Check this map out:
There are 31 regions that are not within the ones on release plus craglorn, which are the yellow ones.
One of them, Gilane, is not going to be released all at once, as we know that Hew's Bane is part of it. Cut a few other zones in half like that and I think we can have enough zones for 40 DLCs.
And even if we don't cut some zones in half, there are the Oblivion realms too. We have at least 15 to be released if only the Daedric Princes' ones are introduced. So, enough for at least 46 DLCs without expanding to Akavir or Pyandonea for example.
Yes, I said thát they would have to get increasingly smaller over time, to fit that 40 DLC scheme - but it will still cost the same and I am not sure, that people will continue to want to pay the same for increasingly less content added. The planes of Oblivion - well, they would loose me at that time, I want to see Tamriel, not Oblivion planes.
The Thieves Guild will cost 2000 crowns, while Orsinium was 3000. So at least by now smaller DLCs won't necessarily cost the same as big DLCs.
And I think that there was some talk of releasing Mephala's realm a while back. I believe it is still a planned DLC. It is a matter of preference, fair enough, but I wouldn't mind a new Daedric Prince's Realm here and there between my Tamriel zones releases.
I was referring to subscription - because it makes sense for a long term player, to subscribe.
Ohh right. Yes, that makes sense.Just so that everyone knows, my Altmer still can't have black hair. About a dozen of Altmer NPCs in the game have black hair. Just saying.
Meet my characters:Command: Do the thing.
Zadarri, Khajiit Fist of Thalmor: The thing was done, as commanded.
Durza gra-Maghul, Orc blacksmith: The thing was done perfectly, in the most efficient way.
Tegwen, Bosmer troublemaker: You can't prove I didn't do the thing.
Sings-Many-Songs, Argonian fisher: Sure, I'll do the thing... Eventually. Maybe.
Aerindel, Altmer stormcaller: After extensive research, I've come to the conclusion that doing the thing would be a waste of resources.
Liliel, Dunmer pyromancer: Aerindel said I shouldn't do the thing. Something about "resources".
Gyda Snowcaller, Nord cryomancer: I will find a way to do it that won't waste resources and make Aerindel proud of me.
Beatrice Leoriane, Breton vampire: I persuaded someone else into doing the thing. You are welcome, dear.
Sahima, Redguard performer: Doing the thing sounds awfully unpleasant and really not my problem.
Ellaria Valerius, Imperial priestess: I'll pray to the Eight for the thing to be done, if it is Their will.0 -
Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭vladimilianoub17_ESO1 wrote: »Will this game survive against Mario Brothers? I dont think so.
L......M.....F.....A......O!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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acw37162✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yeah,
The quality and balance of the game may drive people crazy butvtgeyvare making money hand over fist and they haven't even introduced the barber shop or player housing.
ZOS and Zeni will be yucking it up on ESO live for years to come laughing all the way to the bank.1 -
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »
Pvp is the only reason thia game is still alive. Empty Cyrodiil means the end of ESO. Especially the day TES 6 arrives since all pve lovers will move on.
You keep going on about TES 6 but as far as I know it's not even a gleam in Bethesda's eye. We have years before that shows up, if ever.
Nothing coming out I'm interested in, in the least.
Division -- nope not into shoot em ups
BDO - No thanks to the Korean P2W
CU - one character or pre-pay for more? Nope
Most likely 2 or 3 tops, but not even same team, So ESO doesn't effect the dev team of ES 60 -
Thealteregoroman✭✭✭✭✭
✭NateAssassin wrote: »Considering the fact 90% of my friends quit this game, next to nobody on does pledges, except for DPS ofc, Rawl'kha only having 10 people there, etc.
I'd assume this game is dying, hell I quit playing for a little because I can't find people to do pledges or anything with.SemiD4rkness wrote: »
Pvp is the only reason thia game is still alive. Empty Cyrodiil means the end of ESO. Especially the day TES 6 arrives since all pve lovers will move on.
You keep going on about TES 6 but as far as I know it's not even a gleam in Bethesda's eye. We have years before that shows up, if ever.
Nothing coming out I'm interested in, in the least.
Division -- nope not into shoot em ups
BDO - No thanks to the Korean P2W
CU - one character or pre-pay for more? Nope
Most likely 2 or 3 tops, but not even same team, So ESO doesn't effect the dev team of ES 6
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tinythinker✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Thealteregoroman wrote: »NateAssassin wrote: »Considering the fact 90% of my friends quit this game, next to nobody on does pledges, except for DPS ofc, Rawl'kha only having 10 people there, etc.
I'd assume this game is dying, hell I quit playing for a little because I can't find people to do pledges or anything with.SemiD4rkness wrote: »
Pvp is the only reason thia game is still alive. Empty Cyrodiil means the end of ESO. Especially the day TES 6 arrives since all pve lovers will move on.
You keep going on about TES 6 but as far as I know it's not even a gleam in Bethesda's eye. We have years before that shows up, if ever.
Nothing coming out I'm interested in, in the least.
Division -- nope not into shoot em ups
BDO - No thanks to the Korean P2W
CU - one character or pre-pay for more? Nope
Most likely 2 or 3 tops, but not even same team, So ESO doesn't effect the dev team of ES 6
whats CU?
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JD2013✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭tinythinker wrote: »Thealteregoroman wrote: »NateAssassin wrote: »Considering the fact 90% of my friends quit this game, next to nobody on does pledges, except for DPS ofc, Rawl'kha only having 10 people there, etc.
I'd assume this game is dying, hell I quit playing for a little because I can't find people to do pledges or anything with.SemiD4rkness wrote: »
Pvp is the only reason thia game is still alive. Empty Cyrodiil means the end of ESO. Especially the day TES 6 arrives since all pve lovers will move on.
You keep going on about TES 6 but as far as I know it's not even a gleam in Bethesda's eye. We have years before that shows up, if ever.
Nothing coming out I'm interested in, in the least.
Division -- nope not into shoot em ups
BDO - No thanks to the Korean P2W
CU - one character or pre-pay for more? Nope
Most likely 2 or 3 tops, but not even same team, So ESO doesn't effect the dev team of ES 6
whats CU?
Camelot Unchained.
Wait, you have to prepay for more than one character in CU? Well damn.Sweetrolls for all!
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✭✭✭✭✭NateAssassin wrote: »Considering the fact 90% of my friends quit this game, next to nobody on does pledges, except for DPS ofc, Rawl'kha only having 10 people there, etc.
I'd assume this game is dying, hell I quit playing for a little because I can't find people to do pledges or anything with.
I don't know what time you're playing, but every time I go to Rawl'ka it is PACKED with people, whether it's on the weekends or weekdays. Also, just because 90% of YOUR friends aren't playing doesn't mean that hundreds of thousands of other players aren't playing. No matter where I go or what time I'm on, I see people EVERYWHERE. Every zone, every quest may not be packed, but that doesn't mean that people aren't still on. Also, all five Guilds that I'm a member of has 500 members. So no, ESO is not dying... and you know what they say about assuming.CP: 2105 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NateAssassin wrote: »Considering the fact 90% of my friends quit this game, next to nobody on does pledges, except for DPS ofc, Rawl'kha only having 10 people there, etc.
I'd assume this game is dying, hell I quit playing for a little because I can't find people to do pledges or anything with.
I don't know what time you're playing, but every time I go to Rawl'ka it is PACKED with people, whether it's on the weekends or weekdays. Also, just because 90% of YOUR friends aren't playing doesn't mean that hundreds of thousands of other players aren't playing. No matter where I go or what time I'm on, I see people EVERYWHERE. Every zone, every quest may not be packed, but that doesn't mean that people aren't still on. Also, all five Guilds that I'm a member of has 500 members. So no, ESO is not dying... and you know what they say about assuming.
My experience is much the same as yours, although I'm not in any guilds. One test I apply to such questions about population level is how long I have to wait (without saying anything in the public chat channels) if I'm looking for someone else to turn up and help out with a world boss. I don't usually have to wait more than 5 minutes before someone comes along.0 -
Tandor✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭...You forget about that we - the pve and TES fan crowd - do not have any lag at all. That is purely a pvp problem and due to you guys creating zergs. Without you there is no lag problem at all, all running nicely.
I cut this quote chain down because I only responding to the no lag outside of pvp.
That is so far from the truth, that I'm not sure we are playing the same game. There is terrible lag all across the game. Trials, 4 player dungeons, and solo be it Maelstrom Arena or just open world. If you don't like PVP that's fine, but spreading blatant falsehoods like this are not helping anything.
Seriously, I have not experienced any lag in ESO yet - do you want me to say, I would have lag while I experience none? Maybe your expectations are different from mine, to me 100 latency is not lag - you might say it is.
I would want you not to apply your personal expeirence as a universal truth. In Maelstrom Arena for instance. There are several documented examples of lag from both NA and EU players. So I don't believe you can dismiss that and state there is no lag in ESO outside of PVP just because you've not experienced any. I'm inclined to believe it's that you do not spend much time running trials or dungeons more that anything else.
'Of course I don't, I am a casual player with not that much time to play and not even 3 months in the game. But with that I am like most in ESO, I guess, most people have a job and not the time to play excessively. I even think that most are playing solo, because for casual players it is hard to find groups in the short amount of time they have to play. And there is no lag in solo play, so most will experience ESO as lag free. Mr. Firor said, that ESO is an expanded RPG online, not a typical MMO and so is the player base, mainly RPG players who group sometimes but play mainly solo - and they do not have lag issues.
I agree with all of that. Although I've been playing since PC launch, I tend to play in short sessions of no more than an hour at a time. I often wonder if a lot of the performance slowdowns people report are actually due to their being logged in for hours at a time as that will cause performance to degrade.0 -
EnemyOfDaState✭✭✭✭Yeah I'm sure the Division (aka a worse version of Destiny) will hurt this game. When will people realize that like DCUO people aren't playing this game because it is the most amazing game ever made they are playing because they are fans of the games universe.1 -
KhajiitiLizard✭✭✭✭✭Moonshadow66 wrote: »"Will this game make it past the 2nd dlc in its current state?"
Uhm, why shouldn't it? The current state isn't all that bad, of course the game will make it.
The game was rather unstable in many aspects in beta and a while after launch, yet it made it for 2 years longer, and more to come.
I just say in its current state cause I've read so many posts from pts testers that say this dlc is a huge bug fest on top of the bugs that we already have.
It's an Elder Scrolls game, what do people expect? Without the bugs it wouldn't be Elder Scrolls at all
But you can't cheat and make yourself fly (tcl - AKA noclipping), make yourself a gazzillionare, make npcs fly in the air, see horses randomly rain from the sky... see Thomas The Tank engine burn down a village... what what?0 -
iTzStevey✭✭✭I think the game will survive for a long time if they fix a lot of the bugs,glitches, balance and ofcourse lag. Lag being the most important part because it makes the game unplayable. I think a lot of people have just stopped believing ZoS can fix these things because let's face facts here, they've been rather incompetent so far.1
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✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Skyrim is my second most favorite game of all time, I absolutely loved it but I still think ESO has the most tedious and boring quests Ive ever encountered in any game.
Agree with you about Skyrim, but completely disagree about ESO. Tastes differ after all, people say various things and opinions for all ES games, yet I find all ES games incredibly inspiring.
That being said, have you ever sided with Aldmeri Dominion? The story behind those quests is amazing. I'm still relatively at the beginning, level 14, but loooove it.
The quests are pretty good on AD however. If they could drop the ...chat to him then go and chat to her and then back to him then cross the river and chat to someone else then back to him and off to her to hand the quest in it would be great. Message errand boy missions are painful. The day they invent the telephone in tamriel will save us a lot of gold on wayshrines and boredom.
Best bug ever was curing vampirism on oblivion on Xbox. You actually couldn't as there was no dialog. You had to change the language to German and there was dialog to proceed with it and hand over rhe ingredients. So much for testing eh?PC Master Race
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8 Flawless Toons, all Classes.
Master Angler
Dro-M'artha Destroyer (at last)
Tamriel Hero
Grand Overlord
Every Skyshard
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Valerien✭✭✭The game is in a far better place than many MMO's.
We are seeing decent content updates every quarter. Maybe not what everyone wants but its content and its sufficient content that its gives a decent amount to enjoy. Perhaps new players will find even more options as they can play the thieves guild, Orsinium or imperial city as they experience initial experience.
I do hope that after the dark brotherhood which Im really looking forward to on my Nightblade, they add some additional end game content that advances the vestige story so we see what was meant by the dire warnings that we should have let the big bad win.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭The game is in a far better place than many MMO's.
We are seeing decent content updates every quarter. Maybe not what everyone wants but its content and its sufficient content that its gives a decent amount to enjoy. Perhaps new players will find even more options as they can play the thieves guild, Orsinium or imperial city as they experience initial experience.
I do hope that after the dark brotherhood which Im really looking forward to on my Nightblade, they add some additional end game content that advances the vestige story so we see what was meant by the dire warnings that we should have let the big bad win.
It shall all begin when the gates of Sotha Sil's lost city open . . .
Sweetrolls for all!
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PC Beta Tester January 2014
Elder of The Black
Order of Sithis
The Runners
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Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!1 -
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✭✭✭✭PvE will survive, PvP will be dead on release of CU.Daggerfall Covenant
Sallington - Templar - Stormproof - Prefect II
Cobham - Sorcerer - Stormproof - First Sergeant II
Shallington - NightBlade - Lieutenant |
Balmorah - Templar - Sergeant ||0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »PvE will survive, PvP will be dead on release of CU.
I was interested in Camelot Unchained.
Paying for more than one character? No thank you.Sweetrolls for all!
Christophe Mottierre - Breton Templar with his own whole darn estate! Templar Houses are so 2015. EU DC
PC Beta Tester January 2014
Elder of The Black
Order of Sithis
The Runners
@TamrielTraverse - For Tamriel related Twitter shenanigans!
https://tamrieltraveller.wordpress.com/
Crafting bag OP! ZOS nerf pls!1 -
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✭If the Thieves Guild DLC breaks more than it fixes, it's very possible that the majority of the game base won't be here come time for DB.
There's a FPS bug issue that if it makes it to live, could very well be the death of the game. Cyrodil already runs like crap and if their fixes don't help that, a ton of players will leave as well.NA Server - Kildair0 -
Clarkieson✭✭✭✭If the game breaks anymore it will not last the end of the month never mind until dark brother hood.
You wouldnt keep an animal in this much distress. A horse in this condition would have been termiated long, long ago.
maybe ESO is someones dying relative being kept alive with drugs and life support.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭If the Thieves Guild DLC breaks more than it fixes, it's very possible that the majority of the game base won't be here come time for DB.
There's a FPS bug issue that if it makes it to live, could very well be the death of the game. Cyrodil already runs like crap and if their fixes don't help that, a ton of players will leave as well.
The majority of the player base is not involved in PvP - we would not even recognize if you guys would leave - well, wait, the forum would be less filled with whining.1 -
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✭✭Yes,it w ill be fine.And not because of a new DLC but because it has the best storyline out there,the best of everything.Some may disagree but this is my opinion,since you asked us to give one.0 -
yelloweyedemon✭✭✭No single player game can hurt an MMO. Period.
No matter how huge a single player game is, it can't keep you for long.
You can burn playing DS3, you can reach NG10, you will eventually run out of things to do.
PS: Not to mention that currently ESO is doing better than any MMO in the market. (trust me on that^^)Edited by yelloweyedemon on March 7, 2016 1:44PM1 -
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✭I have long given up on the idea that I could play all of the major games, which would interest me. I simply cannot and so i have to focus on a few games and enjoy them instead to hop from one unfinished game to another unfinished game - and pretty much any new game is released in an unfinished state nowadays. Especially bad is the "early access" mentality nowadays, which provides developers with income early on and there is no need for them to ever complete the game - why would they, the next unfinished one will sell quite as well as "early access" - that is what people get, if they fall for "early access". More and more games will just be unfinished and early access - I rather go for a game which will get better over time and get into a state where it is enjoyable and feels complete - it will still have some flaws though, nothing is really perfect.
Hate the games now being sold with DLC packs at release and BS like that. It's like they want you to pay full price for 1/2 a game. worst part is people are still buying those games. but hopely people will see what game develepers are doing with that and don't join every hype train0