ZOS NEEDS TO ADD DUELING!

Thorn416 · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote:

Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.

Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really

And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way

This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.

Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.

Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.

I can only fight silent members of other alliances. The fact that the friends I play with and talk to every week can't duke it out for fun to actually see who's the strongest out of all of us is crazy.

And if you don't wanna duel, then don't duel? Just like when you don't wanna trade, you don't trade.

If someone invites you to duel em, decline it like everything else you have no interest in and move on. Idk why people like you feel like because you aren't into something, EVERYONE should be denied it

Farorin · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

While dueling would be fun, there are plenty of other things I look forward to more, and would rather.

SlayerTheDragon · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

They need to add this ASAP, but it must have two or three achievements as well - then you will see the PVE boys be PVPing.

Katahdin · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

I am not an "unskilled pver" and I would ask you to keep the cheap insults to those that dont agree with your preferred play style out of the conversation. It only serves to illustrate the type of attitude that the people against dueling point to as toxic and why dueling should not be in the game at all.

I enjoy playing PvP in Cyro as well as playing PvE. I am not a fan of dueling, because it isnt my play style.

I prefer PvE and PvP to be separate, including keeping PvE elements out of PvP and vice versa. However Ido support a separate arena style system so that those that do want to duel have a place they can do it that is more convenient than Cyro.

As I said before, this arguement has been discussed ad nausium in the forums. The response from ZoS is that they are working on an Arena system for dueling. Thats the compromise they have reached between the pro-duelers and the non pro-duelers. Youll get your dueling system and the PvEers will continue to have the peace they enjoy in the PvE zones.

Katahdin · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

Thorn416 wrote: »

Idk why people like you feel like because you aren't into something, EVERYONE should be denied it

And people that are against dueling don't know why you feel that it is ok that they should be subjected to something that not everyone wants because you want it. Not EVERYONE wants it, but you choose to ignore the half of the community that doesnt want it because you do.

Thorn416 · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote: »

Idk why people like you feel like because you aren't into something, EVERYONE should be denied it

And people that are against dueling don't know why you feel that it is ok that they should be subjected to something that not everyone wants because you want it. Not EVERYONE wants it, but you choose to ignore the half of the community that doesnt want it because you do.

Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together is talking about a duel system where you would have no choice about whether or not you fight.

I figure the most simple way to do it would be a simple face to face invite the same way people are invited to groups.

But, that won't change your stance either right? Arms folded, face pouted? lol

Chelos · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

THIS is exactly why I am more and more not wanting Duelling.
The arrogance that a PvP-player is better than a PvE player.

KingYogi415 · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

@Thorn416 people definitely just comment their own opinion without reading what I posted.

Every day common sense seems to be less and less common.

Arena is coming and all the people who don't like dueling; they can also ignore that when it comes SOON(tm).

A lot of this community seems to be skyrim oriented solo players who hate to see others running around ruining their immersion.

For me it's the opposite, the isolation of no text chat on console and lack of so many basic MMO features is what ruins immersion for me.

Dueling is not true pvp, their are no rewards no punishments. it's a basic feature for fun and to try your skill against your friends.

Shocking to me how many people could care less about improving this game.

Katahdin · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

Thorn416 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote: »

Idk why people like you feel like because you aren't into something, EVERYONE should be denied it

And people that are against dueling don't know why you feel that it is ok that they should be subjected to something that not everyone wants because you want it. Not EVERYONE wants it, but you choose to ignore the half of the community that doesnt want it because you do.

Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together is talking about a duel system where you would have no choice about whether or not you fight.

I figure the most simple way to do it would be a simple face to face invite the same way people are invited to groups.

But, that won't change your stance either right? Arms folded, face pouted? lol

It isnt simple, no matter how much you think it is.
And no my stance wont change. I dont think open world pvp everywhere is a good thing to add to the game. Some kind of separate arena area is acceptable.
Putting the insults in your commentary doesnt futher your arguement.

KingYogi415 · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Chelos wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

THIS is exactly why I am more and more not wanting Duelling.
The arrogance that a PvP-player is better than a PvE player.

I have never once said open world dueling.

a set area maybe 2-3 times larger than the undaunted enclave outside of most major city's is what I am suggesting.

If you don't want to duel don't go hang out where people duel. Simple.

Chelos · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Every day common sense seems to be less and less common.

So you think general insults are a sign of common sense. Intriguing.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Arena is coming and all the people who don't like dueling; they can also ignore that when it comes SOON(tm).

Shouldn't that make all who want duels happy?

KingYogi415 wrote: »

A lot of this community seems to be skyrim oriented solo players who hate to see others running around ruining their immersion.

Why is everyone trying to make purely subjective experiences look like facts. You have no idea how many people of those who play think this way. So you can't say whether it's 'a lot' or 'a few' or 'all you meet', however many that may be.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

For me it's the opposite, the isolation of no text chat on console and lack of so many basic MMO features is what ruins immersion for me.

I'm glad I don't have this issue on the PC, I would hate it on console

KingYogi415 wrote: »

Shocking to me how many people could care less about improving this game.

You miss something important here: People care about improving, to me dueling is NOT an improvement, it's opening another channel for annoying and elitist people to hava a place to brag about how superior they are. That would make the game worse.

Edit: Grammar

Thorn416 · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote: »

Idk why people like you feel like because you aren't into something, EVERYONE should be denied it

And people that are against dueling don't know why you feel that it is ok that they should be subjected to something that not everyone wants because you want it. Not EVERYONE wants it, but you choose to ignore the half of the community that doesnt want it because you do.

Nobody with 2 brain cells to rub together is talking about a duel system where you would have no choice about whether or not you fight.

I figure the most simple way to do it would be a simple face to face invite the same way people are invited to groups.

But, that won't change your stance either right? Arms folded, face pouted? lol

It isnt simple, no matter how much you think it is.
And no my stance wont change. I dont think open world pvp everywhere is a good thing to add to the game.
Putting the insults in your commentary doesnt futher your arguement.

You had no counterpoint, so you could have made the same impact by just closing your laptop and going to sleep lmao

speaking of which, goodnight, and don't let me catch you slipping in Cyrodiil haha

Chelos · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

KingYogi415 wrote: »

I have never once said open world dueling.

Neither did I, don't know what made you think I had that in mind.
And you were complaining noone read your post

Katahdin · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

Thorn416 wrote: »

You had no counterpoint, so you could have made the same impact by just closing your laptop and going to sleep lmao

speaking of which, goodnight, and don't let me catch you slipping in Cyrodiil haha

And your point would be what with this statement? All I see is more veiled insults and more reasons why I wouldnt want what you describe in the game.

hrothbern · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

A basic duelling, only 1vs1, without any rewards or leaderboards, can be implemented very easily and quick.

That should release the pressure on this topic...
great for players that want something else now and then for Cyrodiil....
nice for PVE-players that want to do some training practice (also with guild / faction mates) as prep for IC / Cyrodiil.

This would give the devs ample time for a DLC that includes a magnificent Colosseum as Arena for many, many more duelling features

Just as example what features could be included in a big Arena package:

Not only 1vs1, but also 2vs2, 3vs3 and 4vs4
and.... 12vs12 for guilds challenging guilds (also nice for strategic combination of some armor sets)
Choice of your actual CP and Armor sets for 1vs1 up to 12vs12.
For 1vs1 only: choice out of CP levels zero, 301, 501 and all CP level allowed armor sets from a big Armory (like in PTS, but then really all sets).
To consider: best of one, best of three or best of five (like tennis).
Simple training dummies: just to practice rotations (dummies have eternal Health, including a slider to adjust their DPS, to test your rotations including self heal). Also here access to the full supply of the Armory, to test Armor sets properly.
The Hall of Monsters dwelling in Tamriel, frozen in stone statues, that you can click to wake up for a fight. Just the existing NPC's up to Bosses & their actual stats. To learn their mechanics. To get some proper comparisons of various builds against challenging Monsters. Perhaps including NPC Healer/Tank/DPS mates you can choose from.
Leaderboards where relevant and meaningful (using the "ELO-rating" to rank).
Betting on duels.
and many more possible (this was just a cup of coffee list up)

An Arena can be something awfully good

Tannakaobi · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Katahdin wrote: »

I prefer PvE and PvP to be separate, including keeping PvE elements out of PvP and vice versa. However Ido support a separate arena style system so that those that do want to duel have a place they can do it that is more convenient than Cyro.

Separate yes, but a separate server altogether in my opinion, mixing PVE and PVP elements is the whole point for me. It annoys me that I miss out on a feature because people whine about it. Even though they can place it out of the way and unobtrusive to other players on a mixed server. Normally I would go so far as to say seperate games altogether, but in the case of TES they could do with both.

When I say whine I don't just mean the anti pvp people, I also include the people that can not take no for an answer and cause the bad feelings by harassing players to fight them.

Nathano · March 2016

I would never use such a system but I have no objection to it as long as there was a way to block all duel requests. In other MMOs that have this it is very frustrating to get some idiot constantly bombard you with duel requests.

hrothbern · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Nathano wrote: »

I would never use such a system but I have no objection to it as long as there was a way to block all duel requests. In other MMOs that have this it is very frustrating to get some idiot constantly bombard you with duel requests.

three modes should be able to deal with that:

Open for all duel invites
Only open for duel invites from friends.
Never open for a duel, unless standing in the entry area of a duelling ground.

BlackEar · March 2016

hrothbern wrote: »

Nathano wrote: »

I would never use such a system but I have no objection to it as long as there was a way to block all duel requests. In other MMOs that have this it is very frustrating to get some idiot constantly bombard you with duel requests.

three modes should be able to deal with that:
Open for all duel invites

Only open for duel invites from friends.

Never open for a duel, unless standing in the entry area of a duelling ground.

I like these options. I do not understand the "entry to duelling ground". Duels should be available anywhere outside of instanced zones and main cities.

hrothbern · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

BlackEar wrote: »

hrothbern wrote: »

Nathano wrote: »

I would never use such a system but I have no objection to it as long as there was a way to block all duel requests. In other MMOs that have this it is very frustrating to get some idiot constantly bombard you with duel requests.

three modes should be able to deal with that:
Open for all duel invites

Only open for duel invites from friends.

Never open for a duel, unless standing in the entry area of a duelling ground.

I like these options. I do not understand the "entry to duelling ground". Duels should be available anywhere outside of instanced zones and main cities.

"Entry to a duelling ground" could be a portal (near a Tavern, an Outlaws Refuge, the Undaunted Enclave) where you can enter in a space, where everybody is interested in duels.

yelloweyedemon · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

There should be an option where you turn off dueling requests. (Like in Lotro for example)

Also there should be areas where dueling is not possible. (obviously)

If the two above exist, people who are against dueling feature are just selfish and don't want things in game with the mere "logic" I don't like it.

./thread

Aleraon · March 2016

@ZOS_GinaBruno

On skyforge you can duel anyone you're grouped with by selecting the invite to duel from the group tab options anywhere you happen to be .

I think it would be cool if ZOS added a similar feature for those who want to make use of it. They could add it to the interaction wheel that comes up when you press F.

sluice · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

To be honest, I would be super happy with a simple 1v1 open world duelling system.
Walk to someone anywhere and ask them (just like you would ask to trade), to duel.
The fight ends when one dies. The dead fighter gets automatically revived, end of story.

Bystander could just stay there and watch (but none could participated in the duel)

Diablo III has a System like this and I thought it was great (and simple).

It would be a great way to practice new builds with friends, for us more pvp oriented.

AKSb16_ESO2 · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

No.
Only with "I do not want a *** duel"-Button.

Volkodav · March 2016

spectre303 wrote: »

the IC Arena district has an achievement for killing enemy players in the arena... go there? or go duel anywhere on any pvp map. whats stopping ya?

True ingame dueling is different from open PvP 1v1. You challenge someone and either they accept your challenge or decline and go on their way.You cant go and kill them just because you want to fight them.In Cyrodiil you cant refuse,or you will be forced to fight for your life anyway.Duels dont mean death necessarily. It's an honorable fight between two consenting players,not a "either fight me or I'll kill you" thing.

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote:

Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.

Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really

And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way

This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.

Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.

Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.

No,..Cyrodiil isnt about Dueling really.It's a free for all to kill whoever you want without asking them for their permission to fight with them.Some people are there for the questing,others for farming and dont want to be killed offhand,or be forced to fight when they arent into it.

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote:

Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.

Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really

And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way

This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.

Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.

Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.

So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

Ya know just because many PvErs dont want to duel doesnt mean that they are unskilled.It just means they arent into the ego demanding sport.

vamp_emily · March 2016

I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.

They will add dueling after the duelers have left the game.

When they do add dueling I think you should be able to use all your skills. I think it is lame that duelers don't let the opponents use skills such such as cloaking.

TalonKnight · March 2016

ZOS NEEDS TO ADD SWIMMING

Volkodav · March 2016

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Katahdin wrote: »

Thorn416 wrote:

Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.

Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really

And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way

This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.

Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.

Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.

So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

vamp_emily wrote: »

They will add dueling after the duelers have left the game.

When they do add dueling I think you should be able to use all your skills. I think it is lame that duelers don't let the opponents use skills such such as cloaking.

No.Cloaking isnt a skill for a fight between two people.If you are too afraid to fight them face to face,then decline their offer.Cloak doesnt belong in a fair two person fight at all.That's what dueling is,face to face.

eserras7b16_ESO · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

spectre303 wrote: »

the IC Arena district has an achievement for killing enemy players in the arena... go there? or go duel anywhere on any pvp map. whats stopping ya?

We can't duel our own faction, our friends, you fken RTrd

eserras7b16_ESO · March 2016

I want basic dueling implemented asap.

Chelos wrote: »

Bah! Duelling, nothing but comparing what you don't have anyway...
And then you get the But-I-Want-To's who send you tells and claim you're a coward if you don't want to duel...
Too many mannerless people in the game already.
Go Cyrodiil and duel your heart out.

We can't duel our friends in cyrodiil, they could add dueling in cyrodiil atleast.