WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote:
There is nothing wrong with dueling your friends in the open world. It does not hurt you in the slightest.
A feature that doesn't affect you yet you argue against people that want it.
Very narrow and short sited point of view. Once again a pro-dueler ignoring the opinion of others because is something you want.
It does effect me greatly if I am in the middle of a quest and two knuckleheads decide to duel right where the NPC'S for the quest are. It kind of ruins the whole atmosphere of the story. The NPCs are where they are and can't be easily moved.
Dueling can be placed where it won't conflict. I don't trust the selfish attitudes displayed by pro-duelers to be courteous because, by and large they have demonstrated they don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Why should I have to be subjected to your duel. That is why I support seperate areas for dueling so you can have your fun and I can have mine without being forced to be an unwilling spectator.
And I legitimately knew a player by the name a Walking Target in another game.
Then you could argue immersion against everything. Brightly colored armors could offended peoples immersion - I certainly don't like it one bit but I'm not gonna argue to take it away. Nudists crafting. Etc etc
What is narrow? You don't want players to have something yet in reality two players dueling doesn't really matter. That quest giver that just asked you to find the skooma his sister hid...yeah he just gave that to the same schmuck right in front of you - did that ruin your immersion?
I have stated numerous times that a separate dueling area away from questing and high traffic areas are fine with me. I did not say no dueling ever. Not saying you cant have your fun. I am saying I shouldnt be forced to have my fun ruined by it. You're saying "we don't care about your fun, we want it how we want it and we are not willing to compromise" There is a difference.
As far as the schmuck in front of me, his interaction with the NPC does not distract nor interphere with my interaction with said NPC.
Again big difference between that and two people jumping and rolling around and spamming skills. Yea we got Molag Bal trying to end the whole world and take everyone's soul, but this petty duel is more important.
I say no to dueling everywhere and anywhere and I will continue to make sure that stance is represented in every dueling thread made. I won't go away until the day I decide to leave the game which wont be anytime soon and you will never change my mind on the issue ever.
Done with this particular discussion for now. I have better things to do with the rest of my day than continue to bang my head against a brick wall.
There is so much selfish sillyness in here I can't even begin.
Just try to remember that we all have our own opinions,..even if one doesnt agree with the other. :}
Daedgaming wrote: »Bah! Duelling, nothing but comparing what you don't have anyway...
And then you get the But-I-Want-To's who send you tells and claim you're a coward if you don't want to duel...
Too many mannerless people in the game already.
Go Cyrodiil and duel your heart out.
Just because you suck at dueling doesn't mean you should stand against a feature that would increase the player base of the game and make them want to work on this game more and more.
ThatGuyCameron wrote: »I mean, the more features available the better, no? I personally would love a dueling feature because the closest thing I get to it nowadays is a 30 second clash that gets interrupted by frigging King Khargo or some other nub.
What doesn't make sense is anyone saying "no". If you don't want to play the game mode... don't play it?
If you dont want to play the "game mode",whatever that means,you shouldnt have to.Just because you want to duel doesnt mean the person you pick on should be forced to duel.So they should be allowed to say "No".
What you want may not be what someone else wants.
Thats the problem.Some people seem to think that it's their private game to command othes to play as they deem fit.Well,wake up call! It isnt your game.
However,I have no problem with dueling,as long as it is consentual.
SemiD4rkness wrote: »Thorn416 wrote:Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.
Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really
And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way
This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.
Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.
Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.
So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?
WalkingLegacy wrote: »It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.
From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.
There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.
WalkingLegacy wrote: »It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.
From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.
There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.
Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.
From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.
There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.
Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.
You do understand that this is what all the people who support adding dueling wants, right? Nobody is here asking for a way to just go attack whoever you want. We're asking for an optional dueling system, where if you don't want to duel you don't have to. It sounds like you're the only one who isn't understanding this...
Like you literally just agreed with somebody who is saying your assumptions are nonsensical... I think you're completely missing the point with your arguments. We say we want dueling, you say you don't want people being able to attack you, yet nobody is arguing that people should be able to "force" duels.
ColoursYouHave wrote: »WalkingLegacy wrote: »It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.
From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.
There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.
Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.
You do understand that this is what all the people who support adding dueling wants, right? Nobody is here asking for a way to just go attack whoever you want. We're asking for an optional dueling system, where if you don't want to duel you don't have to. It sounds like you're the only one who isn't understanding this...
Like you literally just agreed with somebody who is saying your assumptions are nonsensical... I think you're completely missing the point with your arguments. We say we want dueling, you say you don't want people being able to attack you, yet nobody is arguing that people should be able to "force" duels.