ZOS NEEDS TO ADD DUELING!

  • WalkingLegacy
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    Volkodav wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Katahdin wrote: »

    There is nothing wrong with dueling your friends in the open world. It does not hurt you in the slightest.

    A feature that doesn't affect you yet you argue against people that want it.

    Very narrow and short sited point of view. Once again a pro-dueler ignoring the opinion of others because is something you want.

    It does effect me greatly if I am in the middle of a quest and two knuckleheads decide to duel right where the NPC'S for the quest are. It kind of ruins the whole atmosphere of the story. The NPCs are where they are and can't be easily moved.

    Dueling can be placed where it won't conflict. I don't trust the selfish attitudes displayed by pro-duelers to be courteous because, by and large they have demonstrated they don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.

    Why should I have to be subjected to your duel. That is why I support seperate areas for dueling so you can have your fun and I can have mine without being forced to be an unwilling spectator.

    And I legitimately knew a player by the name a Walking Target in another game.

    Then you could argue immersion against everything. Brightly colored armors could offended peoples immersion - I certainly don't like it one bit but I'm not gonna argue to take it away. Nudists crafting. Etc etc

    What is narrow? You don't want players to have something yet in reality two players dueling doesn't really matter. That quest giver that just asked you to find the skooma his sister hid...yeah he just gave that to the same schmuck right in front of you - did that ruin your immersion?

    I have stated numerous times that a separate dueling area away from questing and high traffic areas are fine with me. I did not say no dueling ever. Not saying you cant have your fun. I am saying I shouldnt be forced to have my fun ruined by it. You're saying "we don't care about your fun, we want it how we want it and we are not willing to compromise" There is a difference.

    As far as the schmuck in front of me, his interaction with the NPC does not distract nor interphere with my interaction with said NPC.
    Again big difference between that and two people jumping and rolling around and spamming skills. Yea we got Molag Bal trying to end the whole world and take everyone's soul, but this petty duel is more important.

    I say no to dueling everywhere and anywhere and I will continue to make sure that stance is represented in every dueling thread made. I won't go away until the day I decide to leave the game which wont be anytime soon and you will never change my mind on the issue ever.

    Done with this particular discussion for now. I have better things to do with the rest of my day than continue to bang my head against a brick wall.





    There is so much selfish sillyness in here I can't even begin.

    Just try to remember that we all have our own opinions,..even if one doesnt agree with the other. :}

    Obviously.
    Edited by WalkingLegacy on March 2, 2016 9:44PM
  • Katahdin
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    I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.
    Daedgaming wrote: »
    Chelos wrote: »
    Bah! Duelling, nothing but comparing what you don't have anyway...
    And then you get the But-I-Want-To's who send you tells and claim you're a coward if you don't want to duel...
    Too many mannerless people in the game already.
    Go Cyrodiil and duel your heart out.

    Just because you suck at dueling doesn't mean you should stand against a feature that would increase the player base of the game and make them want to work on this game more and more.

    Strawman arguement
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  • ThatGuyCameron
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    I want basic dueling implemented asap.
    Volkodav wrote: »
    I mean, the more features available the better, no? I personally would love a dueling feature because the closest thing I get to it nowadays is a 30 second clash that gets interrupted by frigging King Khargo or some other nub.

    What doesn't make sense is anyone saying "no". If you don't want to play the game mode... don't play it?

    If you dont want to play the "game mode",whatever that means,you shouldnt have to.Just because you want to duel doesnt mean the person you pick on should be forced to duel.So they should be allowed to say "No".
    What you want may not be what someone else wants.
    Thats the problem.Some people seem to think that it's their private game to command othes to play as they deem fit.Well,wake up call! It isnt your game.
    However,I have no problem with dueling,as long as it is consentual.

    Your post is kind of redundant considering at no point did I say anything about "forcing" anyone to "play my game." I want the ability to have uninterrupted, small-scale PVP. Like I said; if you don't want structured PVP, you don't have to play it. You have Cyrodiil (lol).
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  • Daedgaming
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    I want basic dueling implemented asap.
    Katahdin wrote: »
    Thorn416 wrote:
    Honestly I find it so bizarre that a game with MULTIPLAYER in the name of the genre doesn't allow people playing together to fight each other at all.

    Like how was that not part of the original game itself? Boggles the mind really

    And to the people voting against dueling being a feature, you should be some sort of scientists lol you think in a very very unique way

    This game does have a feature where people can fight each other, its called Cyrodil.

    Just because YOU think dueling is great and should be in the game from the beginning does not mean others have to think the same way. There are plenty of people that don't like dueling and don't want to see it in game in any form whatsoever. It is not unique, in fact it is very common according to this poll and the other 100+ threads posted.

    Also there is a game that either just finished or is in beta that will be pretty much all open world PvP with little to now PvE.

    So what you can just have an option where you do not want to be asked to duels. Why does this kind (open world duels) of thing hurt you unskilled pvers so much?

    It is because they let their pride and self esteem get in the way of what is a video game and not real life. So then they go around trying to stop those of us who are actually competent pvpers from having a good time. You cannot have a mmorpg without a dueling system bottom line, end of the story. If you dont want to duel then dont duel, I am sure having a system where you decline all duels would be implemented with the addition of dueling as well.
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  • Kendaric
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    I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.
    In response to the thread title: No, they don't. ZOS is not required to introduce a dueling feature to the game.

    If they add dueling, it should be in special, designated areas only. And there should be an auto-decline option for people who don't want to be bothered by dueling request spam.
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    • WalkingLegacy
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      It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.

      From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.

      There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.
    • Volkodav
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      It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.

      From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.

      There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.

      Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.
    • Paazhahdrimaak
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      I want basic dueling implemented asap.
      I wouldn't say asap but I would like it eventually. :)
    • Abeille
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      I am fine with the lack of a dueling feature.
      Needs a "I'm ok with waiting for what they are developing regarding duels to be released" option. It is not that I am fine without dueling, but I do NOT want a basic form of duel to be introduced ASAP. They are already working on small scale pvp, it will come, I don't want some band-aid feature that is hastily implemented when there is something already in development. It has potential to cause more harm than good.
      Edited by Abeille on March 2, 2016 10:21PM
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    • ColoursYouHave
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      I want basic dueling implemented asap.

      Volkodav wrote: »
      It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.

      From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.

      There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.

      Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.

      You do understand that this is what all the people who support adding dueling wants, right? Nobody is here asking for a way to just go attack whoever you want. We're asking for an optional dueling system, where if you don't want to duel you don't have to. It sounds like you're the only one who isn't understanding this...

      Like you literally just agreed with somebody who is saying your assumptions are nonsensical... I think you're completely missing the point with your arguments. We say we want dueling, you say you don't want people being able to attack you, yet nobody is arguing that people should be able to "force" duels.
    • Dubhliam
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      I want basic dueling implemented asap.
      Volkodav wrote: »
      It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.

      From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.

      There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.

      Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.

      You do understand that this is what all the people who support adding dueling wants, right? Nobody is here asking for a way to just go attack whoever you want. We're asking for an optional dueling system, where if you don't want to duel you don't have to. It sounds like you're the only one who isn't understanding this...

      Like you literally just agreed with somebody who is saying your assumptions are nonsensical... I think you're completely missing the point with your arguments. We say we want dueling, you say you don't want people being able to attack you, yet nobody is arguing that people should be able to "force" duels.

      The same was true when people argued against Justice PvP.

      Somehow they will present an argument that they would be forced into something they don't want. And not one shred of indication that would ever be the case.
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    • Volkodav
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      Volkodav wrote: »
      It has to be a single player gamer mindset to assume such a feature would force you into a duel.

      From all the MMOs I've played it's always been "so and so wants to duel you" you either accept or decline.

      There has also been a setting where you just auto decline all and never see the invite.

      Exactly this. No one wants to understand this bit though.

      You do understand that this is what all the people who support adding dueling wants, right? Nobody is here asking for a way to just go attack whoever you want. We're asking for an optional dueling system, where if you don't want to duel you don't have to. It sounds like you're the only one who isn't understanding this...

      Like you literally just agreed with somebody who is saying your assumptions are nonsensical... I think you're completely missing the point with your arguments. We say we want dueling, you say you don't want people being able to attack you, yet nobody is arguing that people should be able to "force" duels.

      The person I commented to and I had been in a small conversation,trying to understand things as we both saw them.We came to an understanding.I too find that dueling is fine,and that there should be the option to either fight or not.Please go back and read all my other comments on the subject.
    • KingYogi415
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      I want basic dueling implemented asap.
      The majority of the community is in favor of dueling!

      Take note!
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