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there needs to be a change about attacks that pull nbs out of stealth...
Its clearly not obvious enough that nbs will be pulled out of stealth by every aoe, so zos should write under every aoe in tooltips "pulls nbs in range out of stealth"!!!
that could stop all the qqing
Edited by laksikus on March 1, 2016 3:54PM Its clearly not obvious enough that nbs will be pulled out of stealth by every aoe, so zos should write under every aoe in tooltips "pulls nbs in range out of stealth"!!!
that could stop all the qqing
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
As for stealth, its an issue, but only because yes they are annoying spamming it. But if you play a NB you know it still barely works. However, so few skills this current patch help detect NBs. Mainly pots do.
OP: NBs are pretty damn fun as well, not all AOEs should pop a NB outta stealth. You should read Cloak tooltip.Edited by Casterial on March 1, 2016 7:55PMDaggerfall Covenant:Casterial Stamplar || Casterial DK || Availed NB || Castyrial Sorc || Spooky Casterial Necro
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Played my lowbie NB again few days ago... was totally disgusted at how easy mode it is playing on the NB.. almost felt like I couldn't die... anyway back to my other toons.. I prefer at least some effort while playing.
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Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
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✭✭✭I have a stamplar, and biting jabs has better DPS than surprise attack. I fail to see how playing a Nightblade is easy mode. Maybe a magicka Nightblade, but certainly not a stamina one. I've played a stamina templar, stamina Nightblade, stamina Dragonknight, and a magicka sorcerer and if I were to rank them from easy mode to hard mode it would be: sorc, templar, DK, then NB. Cloak is definitely not OP. I don't even have it on my bar for my Nightblade. Surprise Attack is pretty powerful, but I wouldn't place it over biting jabs. Moves that I would consider OP are the following: Mass Hysteria (mainly because of the lack of AoE CCs in this game), hardened ward, crystal frags, overload, corrosive armor, meteor (next update), healing ward, mage light (next update) and rushed ceremony.Edited by Strider_Roshin on March 1, 2016 8:40PM6 -
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Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.1 -
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✭I really want cloak how it is now in current live server...I wont be able like it after TGPlays:
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Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.3 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
As for stealth, its an issue, but only because yes they are annoying spamming it. But if you play a NB you know it still barely works. However, so few skills this current patch help detect NBs. Mainly pots do.
OP: NBs are pretty damn fun as well, not all AOEs should pop a NB outta stealth. You should read Cloak tooltip.
Any attack that deals damage to you will pop cloak now if you spam an attack when no one is in range that's a you problem.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Played my lowbie NB again few days ago... was totally disgusted at how easy mode it is playing on the NB.. almost felt like I couldn't die... anyway back to my other toons.. I prefer at least some effort while playing.
I played only Nightblades for the first two years longer if you count beta don't have a non Nightblade till January and I find all other classes much easier not having to melt face in .2 seconds to win cause you have heals, shields or defensive powers is great.
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
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Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
Both Templars and Nightblades have a crit damage bonus but Templars have a weapon damage buff and burning light to boot.
My crit rating plus burning light makes my Jabs far better then Surprise Attack. Clone a Stamina Nightblade's DPS build to your Stamina Templar and see how bad a** you are.Chaos Shadow-Scale: Shadow Archer
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sagitter✭✭✭✭✭I find more annoying wreckling bow spam or hardened ward spam than surp. attack.
Anyway die by a class and come to the forum forumQQ never get old ;D.Edited by sagitter on March 1, 2016 9:02PM2 -
MishMash✭✭✭✭Stamina NBs are NOT an easy mode class to play!
Not all NB's take advantage of cloak, nor do they even attack from stealth the majority of the time. The ones that do use cloak/stealth attack are typically magic builds, and running solo/ganking. The ones in a small/lg group rarely use stealth unless the entire group is stealth. I think the real issue people have is the solo ganking NB's that sneak up on them and kill quickly (the point of the NB).
It is an assassin and it is meant to sneak up on you... get over it.
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Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
Yes, I did factor that in. So you didn't actually read the analysis? What room do you have to criticize if you didn't bother reading it? In terms of damage only, Jabs has SA beat. What makes it comparable is the cast time. But I went into detail on all of this, just read the thread if you are genuinely interested. There were many rebuttals as well, each of them were acknowledged in turn, and at the end of the day, there was no solid evidence of either skill being inherently OP relative to the other; that is, the conclusion was that they are balanced.1 -
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✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
I'm lost, are we talking pve or PvP? PvP surprise attack stomps jabs2 -
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✭✭kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
As for stealth, its an issue, but only because yes they are annoying spamming it. But if you play a NB you know it still barely works. However, so few skills this current patch help detect NBs. Mainly pots do.
OP: NBs are pretty damn fun as well, not all AOEs should pop a NB outta stealth. You should read Cloak tooltip.
Any attack that deals damage to you will pop cloak now if you spam an attack when no one is in range that's a you problem.Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Played my lowbie NB again few days ago... was totally disgusted at how easy mode it is playing on the NB.. almost felt like I couldn't die... anyway back to my other toons.. I prefer at least some effort while playing.
I played only Nightblades for the first two years longer if you count beta don't have a non Nightblade till January and I find all other classes much easier not having to melt face in .2 seconds to win cause you have heals, shields or defensive powers is great.
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
Both Templars and Nightblades have a crit damage bonus but Templars have a weapon damage buff and burning light to boot.
My crit rating plus burning light makes my Jabs far better then Surprise Attack. Clone a Stamina Nightblade's DPS build to your Stamina Templar and see how bad a** you are.
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✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
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Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
I'm lost, are we talking pve or PvP? PvP surprise attack stomps jabs
If we're talking about PvP then it depends. Against a Nightblade, jabs are more efficient that SA. Against a sorc, it's less efficient. Against another templar or DK then they're on par. Fighting Nightblades as a templar is pretty easy. Gap close, knock them down, jab to death. The key is to stay aggressive; if they try to cloak you'll reveal them immediately.2 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
I'm lost, are we talking pve or PvP? PvP surprise attack stomps jabs
If we're talking about PvP then it depends. Against a Nightblade, jabs are more efficient that SA. Against a sorc, it's less efficient. Against another templar or DK then they're on par. Fighting Nightblades as a templar is pretty easy. Gap close, knock them down, jab to death. The key is to stay aggressive; if they try to cloak you'll reveal them immediately.
^ that pretty much sums it all up. There is no evidence of one or the other being inherently overpowered. Doesn't mean that they are both equally viable in all situations.1 -
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Vorcil✭✭✭✭Pro tip for Magicka NBs in PVP:
Always have detect+immobility+health pots on bar; backbar with heals / stealth to move around;
As soon as you get stunned by NBs, executioned, or spam biting jabbed by templars hold block, hit the pots, back bar wards up dodge out and kill them easy;
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Shelgon✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
Lol? In PvP and PvE NBs pull higher dps.V16 Templar - Shelgon - DC
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Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
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Now that's some top quality BS right there, maybe Trump needs another speech writer.
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✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »@Tryxus This time the popcorn is on me
I'm surprised you didn't start this thread.1 -
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✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
Lol? In PvP and PvE NBs pull higher dps.
I guess all those stamplars pulling higher dps in pve than stamblades is just a fluke then? Based on my own experience, and those who frequent these forums, a great deal of stamblades who are able to pull 25-30k sustain on fights like the Serpent and Mantikora rely very heavily on siphoning attacks for sustain, which ceases to be a viable means of resource management for many builds starting next Monday, considering the nerfs to siphoning attacks' ability to proc on AoE DoT ticks.
What evidence do you have to support this? How are you testing dps in cyrodiil? Do you have any analyses of stamplar vs stamblade dps in a controlled scenario?0 -
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✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2639994/#Comment_2639994
Did you factor in that jabs must be aimed, every one has to hit for max damage, and its a channel? In the time it takes 3 jabs to full hit you can easily hit 4 surprise attacks. On top of it ALL jabs is broken against shields, case closed.
The case has been closed for a while. When it comes to DPS Biting Jabs > Surprise Attack.
Lol? In PvP and PvE NBs pull higher dps.
Somebody doesn't know what a DPS test is. With the same gear, the stamplar will outperform the stamina Nightblade. Try it for yourself.0 -
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✭itscompton wrote: »
Referring to Surprise Attack? I ran an analysis on Surprise Attack compared to Biting Jabs, and the results were inconclusive. Likely the problem is that you're comparing tooltips, and not actually testing them with control factors in relevant context. I might add that testing damage potential with control factors is all but impossible in Cyrodiil, which is why most people do their testing on Blood Spawn, a lengthy fight in which damage can be sustained for the entirety of the fight. Here is a portion of the analysis, for those interested:Strider_Roshin wrote: »Please play as a NB. That is all.
Shoot I tried it, every NB I know refuses to acknowledge the OP skills. Play a Templar is all I gotta' say then you'd realize having a skill that can be spam nonstop with a tooltip of 8-10k is pretty damn OP.
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Now that's some top quality BS right there, maybe Trump needs another speech writer.
You're really discrediting the entire thread without any actual data, or any basis for an argument at all? You don't expect that to carry much weight, do you?Edited by Autolycus on March 1, 2016 9:42PM0 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Strider_Roshin wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »@Tryxus This time the popcorn is on me
I'm surprised you didn't start this thread.
Do I know you? Do you know me?0
