We need more bag/bank space for the Thieves Guild update, if we won't get crafting bags until later.

MrJagermeister · March 2016

While crafting bags will make the inventory management minigame a lot more tolerable, they aren't due to come out until at least The Dark Brotherhood, if not later. And with almost all of the end game gear dropping as Bind on PICKUP and not EQUIP, in addition to the vast amount of new trials, pvp, and other dropped sets coming in the next DLC, PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE allow us to purchase more inventory space!

We're going to have to store set pieces until we get 4-5 of them before they're worth wearing over our regular gear. Trials gear includes sets that do bonus damage to bosses and that sort of thing, that you won't want to equip outside of those situations. PvP specific gear that won't help you outside of Cyrodiil. New style materials to gather for crafting. New Rewards for the Worthy sets. Add all of this to the pre-existing collection of clothing, blacksmithing, alchemy, provisioning, woodworking, and enchanting materials cluttering up our inventory, banks, and mule characters we use for storage. If people are willing to spend the money, why not allow us 30 more spaces to purchase, at least until the ESO+ crafting bags come out?

It's not too late to get this in the game when the DLC is released. Help us draw attention to this matter!
@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_KaiSchober

Hand_Bacon · March 2016

Every time I log in and go to my bank I wonder, wth is taking up so much room.
Lets say 140 slots.
6 stacks of each VR16 Mat
ORE
WOOD
SILK
LEATHER
WATER

30 slots

Herbs, average around 2 stacks of each, but really, aside from writs, I use maybe 6 different herbs on a regular basis.
12 slots

Enchanting Maybe half a dozen runes that matter aside from rares which I keep on a bank toon.
6 slots

I keep around 10 slots for keeping rough items
10 slots

Food Ingredients; aside from writs I only need a few mats so I'll be generous and say 8 slots, the rest on a bank toon
8 slots

Finished food and potions, maybe 6 slots.
6 slots

So far that's 72 used out of 140.

This leaves 68 open slots for trait/style pieces, tempers, fish bait.

Every character has all inventory upgrades aside from an average of 20 left to go on horse bags.

I keep a bank character for all my BoP gear not yet in use, overflow mats, and mats rarely used but may need.

Each character keeps their own sets etc on them so I don't need to store pve/pvp/etc sets in the bank.

I also keep a bunch of mats like lower level waters etc, in bounce mails.

The math says I should have enough space, but I'm constanty filling up with crap.

Lysette · March 2016

The thing is, bank space is shared among all characters on an account. If it would be per character, those 240 bank slots would be enough, but for a team of 8 characters, it is too limited. Seriously, I would have given up on playing ESO if I would not have inherited a guild bank as additional storage, I would have not be willing to put up with these ridiculous limitations.

Edit: Why is this?- Because I come from EVE online, we can have 1000 stacks per station there and the game might have like 20,000 stations or even more. Furthermore with using containers the slots can be upgraded to up to a million stacks per station. So there is never any shortage of storage space - so I feel like strangled in ESO due to that limited storage space - and I have maxed out the bank already.

Vorcil · March 2016

Bring on POH!

I'd love a nice cellar in my own tower filled with storage space ^.^

Hand_Bacon · March 2016

8 characters, 240 bank slots (not sure why I said 140).

If we divided it equally that would be 30 slots per character, but lets say 160 are taken by communal mats etc. (and that's a lot of etc) Each character would have 10 slots for their "own". What do you have unique to each character that cannot be kept on that character? Given all the space one can get per character.

I'm going to do a personal inventory later as I'm genuinely curious why people, including myself, constantly fill up on crap. There has to be a management solution to this as that is a ton of space.

Moozzie · March 2016

I hate it when i have to spend 30 minuten to drop stuff in de bank, switch to a mul and get it out. Then go to main char, put more ib the bank and go to other mules to get it out etc. Really annoying. Also when i do daily crafting writs i might need to get back to an mule to put the missing materials in again

Edit: i dont have the money to buy up all the bank spaces. Its very expensive..

Sallington · March 2016

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

8 characters, 240 bank slots (not sure why I said 140).

If we divided it equally that would be 30 slots per character, but lets say 160 are taken by communal mats etc. (and that's a lot of etc) Each character would have 10 slots for their "own". What do you have unique to each character that cannot be kept on that character? Given all the space one can get per character.

I'm going to do a personal inventory later as I'm genuinely curious why people, including myself, constantly fill up on crap. There has to be a management solution to this as that is a ton of space.

My main is 50 in every crafting skill. Does someone have a count of every single mat in the game? The provisions mats alone has to total over 50 individual mats. All of the traits, styles, the runes, the alchemy ingredients, etc. There's just so many freaking mats.

Then we get to the BoP gear. Just from Orsinium alone there's how many set pieces that you don't want to decon, just because you have NO idea when you'll be able to get that piece again.

Crafting bags make this problem go away though. 80% of everyone's storage issues has to be crafting mats.

Lysette · March 2016

Well, I cannot hold that much in personal inventory, i need to have 29 free for doing writs - up to 23 for gear plus 6 for the other 3 writs. So most of the stuff has to stay in the bank, 29 slots are not enough when I go on an exploration tour and open chests, pick flowers and gather materials - so if I want to stay out in the open wild for a while, I need at least 40-50 slots free in my inventory or I can basically stay at home, because I will be unable to actually do something and not just manage inventory.

Hand_Bacon · March 2016

Sallington wrote: »

My main is 50 in every crafting skill. Does someone have a count of every single mat in the game? The provisions mats alone has to total over 50 individual mats. All of the traits, styles, the runes, the alchemy ingredients, etc. There's just so many freaking mats.

Then we get to the BoP gear. Just from Orsinium alone there's how many set pieces that you don't want to decon, just because you have NO idea when you'll be able to get that piece again.

Crafting bags make this problem go away though. 80% of everyone's storage issues has to be crafting mats.

Okay, I get that, but do you use any bank toons for stuff that you really don't use. I have 4 chars that are 50 in every crafting skill and I don't use most materials. There is a huge category of "someday" mats that I put on my single bank character.

BoP, unless you are keeping every piece in case of a rainy day, I see maybe 50 slots for unused gear.

Crafting bags will go a long way, but even then I think part of the problem is management.

Lysette wrote: »

Well, I cannot hold that much in personal inventory, i need to have 29 free for doing writs - up to 23 for gear plus 6 for the other 3 writs. So most of the stuff has to stay in the bank, 29 slots are not enough when I go on an exploration tour and open chests, pick flowers and gather materials - so if I want to stay out in the open wild for a while, I need at least 40-50 slots free in my inventory.

On average, each character of mine has 180 slots of personal inventory. Potions/food/gear sets, take up maybe 25-30.
That's still 150 open slots per character.

NBrookus · March 2016

BoP is really making this worse. I have a mule that stores nothing but BoP items, what ever are the best traits I have received for that item; they are of no use to me now but they might on a toon in the future and it's too painful to contemplate trying to grind them out. I'd much rather sell them secure in the knowledge I'd have the option to buy from other players later. This mule is full unless I start paying insanely high prices for bag space that only works on her.

Then I have a mule for non-bound items and research items, and extra stacks of mats. She's not full, but could easily be if I didn't decon/sell a lot.

Then there's the high number of mats for V14 and V16 materials for writs and personal use, but the small stacks. Just make everything stack to 999 or something, please. And I need lowest level mats to make trait research items. Everything else stays in a guild bank that I have access to.

Add to that provisioning, alchemy, and enchanting ingredients, style and trait mats, raw materials for style mats, motif fragments and IC trophies. My bank is FULL; I can barely transfer items to another toon. Now we have more style mats coming.

It's getting mighty ugly.

Lysette · March 2016

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

My main is 50 in every crafting skill. Does someone have a count of every single mat in the game? The provisions mats alone has to total over 50 individual mats. All of the traits, styles, the runes, the alchemy ingredients, etc. There's just so many freaking mats.

Then we get to the BoP gear. Just from Orsinium alone there's how many set pieces that you don't want to decon, just because you have NO idea when you'll be able to get that piece again.

Crafting bags make this problem go away though. 80% of everyone's storage issues has to be crafting mats.

Okay, I get that, but do you use any bank toons for stuff that you really don't use. I have 4 chars that are 50 in every crafting skill and I don't use most materials. There is a huge category of "someday" mats that I put on my single bank character.

BoP, unless you are keeping every piece in case of a rainy day, I see maybe 50 slots for unused gear.

Crafting bags will go a long way, but even then I think part of the problem is management.

Lysette wrote: »

Well, I cannot hold that much in personal inventory, i need to have 29 free for doing writs - up to 23 for gear plus 6 for the other 3 writs. So most of the stuff has to stay in the bank, 29 slots are not enough when I go on an exploration tour and open chests, pick flowers and gather materials - so if I want to stay out in the open wild for a while, I need at least 40-50 slots free in my inventory.

On average, each character of mine has 180 slots of personal inventory. Potions/food/gear sets, take up maybe 25-30.
That's still 150 open slots per character.

That is fine for you, but my characters are still low level and I have just about 90-100 in personal inventory and I am not willing to buy character slots for real money - I did with bank slots, but I do not support the cash grab with personal inventory for the same price.

Wreave1 · March 2016

Old player here, I played when game for 1-2 months when it first came out, but quit over the storage and related constraints. Came back a few weeks ago. Thinking that I'll leave again until they get this sorted out. Which at current rate might take them another year.

Here's the short of it: In a game where inventory/bank space is so severely restricted and crafting supplies are so varied, a crafting bank is mandatory. It's like plumbing -- doesn't matter how awesome the hotel is, if it doesn't have plumbing, I'm not staying there. Especially when there are five other hotels around, all with plumbing.

And no, I'm not going to pay a subscription fee for it. I'd be okay with a one time purchase of reasonably limited storage, and I'd be fine with upgrade costs. Contrast with GW2:
* Even F2P accounts have their crafting bank, which can store all raw and refined materials. This basic version allows stacks up to 250 for all mats.
* Additional stack space can be purchased for gems, in increments of 250. Not necessary, but nice to have. And cost is low (about $10 for increasing every stack slot in the crafting bank by 250).
* I can deposit to the crafting bank from anywhere.

My recent experience:
* Came back to find: 1) Provisioning (which I had previously given up on) was now tolerable because Zenimax reduced the number of provisioning mats. 2) Stacking was somewhat improved (stacks used to be capped at 100, now they're capped at 200). 3) Can now purchase inventory/bank slots for cash.
* Just recently: the reward trinkets were moved to account collections, thus freeing up a few inventory slots.
* I have a number of characters at low levels. None at high levels. (Highest is now 42.) I'm leveling crafting for all crafts, on different characters, (wood and cloth on one, BS on another, Alch + Ench on a third). The first two of those carry their refined material in their inventory. The third keeps all of the enchanting mats in her inventory, but not the alchemy mats.
* Bank slots and inventory slots are more expensive than I can afford in game. Essentially, almost ALL of my cash is dedicated to getting the next bank upgrade.
* The ench/alchemy character has so much stuff in her inventory (40 some odd enchanting mats), that its no practical to go adventuring with her. If I want to play her, I have to xfer her mats to another character (which means that she wont be able to make
* Coming back, my banks had a little bit of squeeze space. I bought one inventory upgrade for my main char from the cash shop, and that gold saving plus adventuring and scrounging gold from all of my other characters allowed me to buy the next bank upgrade up to 130.
* That helped for a while, but I'm now at around 115/130 with mats only in the bank. Which leaves very little slosh room for passing items through the bank to be deconned.
* Tentatively, I had planned to push one character up to VR levels, where I understand its easier to farm gold. But I'm wondering how long I'm going to have to be on that treadmill... I.e. if I'll keep getting new materials to take up slot spaces as fast or faster than I'm getting new bank slots to drop them in.

My number one goal in playing a given game should not "Getting more space to store stuff." Yet that's exactly what I'm having to do in this game. I just want to play the game, enjoy the story, try different stuff with my characters. And that's what I can do in every other MMO that I play.

Money wise: I'm sure that Z is making money by selling bank/inventory/horse upgrades. So I understand the reluctance to release a feature that would cut into that. But then there are people like me - That's two years gone by w/o my dropping any money on the game. Two years of lost revenue opportunties. Now, I'll be going away again. More years(?) of lost revenue opportunities.

PS: No character re-customization yet? That's just walking away from money on the table. Baffling.

Ourorboros · March 2016

The inventory constraint is a feature. It's purpose is to encourage sales of Mimic stones from the crown store.

goatlyonesub17_ESO · March 2016

Hand_Bacon wrote: »

Every time I log in and go to my bank I wonder, wth is taking up so much room.
Lets say 140 slots....

For me, it's food materials. My characters cook a lot, to earn money by profitably selling cooked food/drinks to NPC vendors. I've filled up my bank to overflowing sometimes with food mats plus the other stuff that's in there. But I've made millions in gold, bought everything I wanted, and still have about 2.2 million balance.

runagate · March 2016

There really is a giant amount of more items that one is not just hording for the sake of it.
Even just the amount of style stones that exist now is kind of crazy. We really need those crafting bags asap.

Gargath · March 2016

Wreave1 wrote: »

Contrast with GW2:
* Even F2P accounts have their crafting bank, which can store all raw and refined materials. This basic version allows stacks up to 250 for all mats.
* Additional stack space can be purchased for gems, in increments of 250. Not necessary, but nice to have. And cost is low (about $10 for increasing every stack slot in the crafting bank by 250).
* I can deposit to the crafting bank from anywhere.

Yes GW2 can stack upto 250 but SWTOR can up to 9999 since patch 4.1. It's wonderful how bioware made this... one day I woke up, downloaded patch and saw my bank items almost vanished, when day before I had no free space

.

I hope ZOS can also make such surprises without much begging from the community.
Boware's "project from99to9999" was a complete surprise and one of the best free gifts from a long time.

PS. when talking about GW2 it's also important to mention that this game has most useful feature to sell instantly in general market every material we found - all we need is to dig an ore and open trading menu and push sell on this ore, and they are sold instantly. At this point the items no longer take space in inventory/bank if we know we won't need them. And with this feature (and with the one mentioned - to deposit to bank from anywhere) having more space in personal inventory is no longer important.

GaldorP · March 2016

Mule 1 [Inventory 89/180]: Low lv potency runes, potions, trophies, disguises, IC sets.
Mule 2 [Inventory 127/180]: Group dungeon drops (including monster helmet sets)
Mule 3 [Inventory 99/180]: VR 14 Air, Fire, and Martial Knowledge sets, Hawk's Eye, Stygian, Stolen Clothing
Mule 4 [Inventory ~80/180]: Trials drops; Thieves Guild sets
Mule 5 [Inventory 72/180]: Orsinium sets
Mule 6 [Inventory 75/180]: Low level sets (lv 27 Fjord's Legacy, all rare lv 49 sets, all rare lv 50 sets)
Mule 7 [Inventory 84/180]: Old PvP sets, old main gear, rare Dolmen drops

Bank is constantly at around 220/240 with just VR 16 crafting mats.

So I support the motion for more bank space

Elektrakosh · March 2016

Either craft bank spaces/ craft bag or More cheaper bank space please. 100k for an extra 10 or so spaces? I can't afford that in game I have never had that much due to armour repairs and l2p issues.
1000 crowns for 10 spaces? Hell no! It's too stingy in ways of extra space especially for that price.

For the love of the divines add a better bank and inventory management feature. All that scrolling down especially if pressed for time or looking for a specific item is daft. Labled tabs would be good. Armours, crafting, weapons ect.

I have storage problems and I'm only playing the base game.

snoogadooch · March 2016

Agree

failkiwib16_ESO · March 2016

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Either craft bank spaces/ craft bag or More cheaper bank space please. 100k for an extra 10 or so spaces? I can't afford that in game I have never had that much due to armour repairs and l2p issues.
1000 crowns for 10 spaces? Hell no! It's too stingy in ways of extra space especially for that price.

For the love of the divines add a better bank and inventory management feature. All that scrolling down especially if pressed for time or looking for a specific item is daft. Labled tabs would be good. Armours, crafting, weapons ect.

I have storage problems and I'm only playing the base game.

Well I kinda stopped spending money on inventory upgrades, because as soon as I get 10 new, I end up filling them and need 10 more ...my bank is at 200, my inventory on my main is at 170 and I have 7 other chars I use as mules