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What the **** - Templars have been living with this?

raasdal
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Allright, so i have been levelling a new baby-templar (magicka). And oh boy, i got a surprise with the Toppling Charge.

I have always "mained" a Sorc, so i have had my share of rages over how buggy the Overload ultimate is. But i had really no idea how templars have it. Their one and only key gapcloser, is the most bugged ability i have ever seen.

1. It will occasionally lock you out of ALL abilities. Sometimes for 1 minute, sometimes for 30 seconds.
2. It has insane bad pathfinding. Compared to other gapclosers like Crit Rush, you have SO many times where it will not fire off. I will not compare to Ambush which is too easy to connect with. But in my opinion they should all be like that.
3. Even WHEN you should DEFINITELY have path to the enemy, you can get a bug where it won't fire. You can stand right in front of enemy, and you will only fire the first microsecond of the animation, and then it will cancel, as if you lost LOS.

This has, single handedly, caused me to stop playing this class any further. As a magicka class, looking to use Sweeps, it is crucial to have a gapcloser. And i am not going to play something, which is bugging out THAT much. The rage when i died because of it, would simply be too much.

So - all of my sympathy goes out to you Templars, who have been living with this so long. You are real troopers.
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  • Nestor
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    I just don't use the skill. It does not bug out on me the few times I have used it, i just have no need for a Gap Closer on my magic templar.
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  • Dread_Guy
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    Welcome to the club!
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  • Mr_Nobody
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    Or try casting it closer than 3 meters, you will go into animation for 1-2 seconds but nothing will happen.

    As others said, welcome to the club!
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  • Zaldan
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Allright, so i have been levelling a new baby-templar (magicka). And oh boy, i got a surprise with the Toppling Charge.

    I have always "mained" a Sorc, so i have had my share of rages over how buggy the Overload ultimate is. But i had really no idea how templars have it. Their one and only key gapcloser, is the most bugged ability i have ever seen.

    1. It will occasionally lock you out of ALL abilities. Sometimes for 1 minute, sometimes for 30 seconds.
    2. It has insane bad pathfinding. Compared to other gapclosers like Crit Rush, you have SO many times where it will not fire off. I will not compare to Ambush which is too easy to connect with. But in my opinion they should all be like that.
    3. Even WHEN you should DEFINITELY have path to the enemy, you can get a bug where it won't fire. You can stand right in front of enemy, and you will only fire the first microsecond of the animation, and then it will cancel, as if you lost LOS.

    This has, single handedly, caused me to stop playing this class any further. As a magicka class, looking to use Sweeps, it is crucial to have a gapcloser. And i am not going to play something, which is bugging out THAT much. The rage when i died because of it, would simply be too much.

    So - all of my sympathy goes out to you Templars, who have been living with this so long. You are real troopers.

    Sorc not able to play because of a bugged ability? hotfix incomming ;)
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  • SneaK
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Allright, so i have been levelling a new baby-templar (magicka). And oh boy, i got a surprise with the Toppling Charge.

    I have always "mained" a Sorc, so i have had my share of rages over how buggy the Overload ultimate is. But i had really no idea how templars have it. Their one and only key gapcloser, is the most bugged ability i have ever seen.

    1. It will occasionally lock you out of ALL abilities. Sometimes for 1 minute, sometimes for 30 seconds.
    2. It has insane bad pathfinding. Compared to other gapclosers like Crit Rush, you have SO many times where it will not fire off. I will not compare to Ambush which is too easy to connect with. But in my opinion they should all be like that.
    3. Even WHEN you should DEFINITELY have path to the enemy, you can get a bug where it won't fire. You can stand right in front of enemy, and you will only fire the first microsecond of the animation, and then it will cancel, as if you lost LOS.

    This has, single handedly, caused me to stop playing this class any further. As a magicka class, looking to use Sweeps, it is crucial to have a gapcloser. And i am not going to play something, which is bugging out THAT much. The rage when i died because of it, would simply be too much.

    So - all of my sympathy goes out to you Templars, who have been living with this so long. You are real troopers.

    I just laughed the whole time I read that. It's gotten so bad that's about all I can do. When TC bugs out on me my reaction is always to just attempt to switch bars and spam heals/survive until the game starts working properly again. Doesn't always work though, in which case I rage just like you and log onto my NB.
    Edited by SneaK on February 22, 2016 4:14PM
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  • Chelos
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    One thing that MAY help is drinking a poition.
    Works for me most of the time but friends stay stuck...
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  • Reverb
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    The primary use for Toppling Charge is comedy. Getting stuck in the animation and not being able to cast anything else is always good for a laugh.
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  • Docmandu
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    raasdal wrote: »
    I have always "mained" a Sorc, so i have had my share of rages over how buggy the Overload ultimate is. But i had really no idea how templars have it. Their one and only key gapcloser, is the most bugged ability i have ever seen.

    Sorc bug: overload glitches and you get to keep your magelight buff.
    Templar bug: gap closer glitches and you get to stand there and take it like a man, while being unable to use any skill.

    But don't fret.. there's a workaround.. waste a potion to debug yourself... though that tidbit of info probably caused ZOS to move it way down the prio list, as there's a "fix"... hence.. not important enough.

    Edited by Docmandu on February 22, 2016 5:11PM
  • Cody
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    the more you know :D
  • Vaoh
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    My new Templar was coming along really nicely. I got Toppling Charge and used it on a zombie. I was all like "this looks really cool! No bugs here why are all of the Templars complaining?"

    So I went into PvP.....

    Within 2 minutes I found myself sprinting with retreating maneuvers toward an enemy player. They begin to look my way and I smashed Toppling Charge.....

    Long story short, I fast-traveled my butthurt Temp to Stormhaven and respecced immediately. Not going to lose access to my character for some stupid gap closer. How could a skill be LITERALLY BROKEN? Why ZOS!!!
  • Sharee
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    4. When you use it on a Mage guard who has cast a recent Eclipse on you, YOU get knocked down. It's a projectile spell apparently.

    Eclipse does not just reflect projectile spells, it reflects all single target spells.
  • Dread_Guy
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    Sharee wrote: »
    4. When you use it on a Mage guard who has cast a recent Eclipse on you, YOU get knocked down. It's a projectile spell apparently.

    Eclipse does not just reflect projectile spells, it reflects all single target spells.

    Not any more :trollface:
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  • phillyboy7897
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    Its partly getting fixed next patch it will now be dodgeable.

    GCD bar lockout and broken pathfinding I expect will not be fixed :)

    Maybe it will cost more like sweeps who knows
  • DjKahun
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    This is the whole reason i ditched my magicka templar for a stamina build I was fed up with this toppling charge glitching all the time and not being able to cast any of my spells, changed to stamina use critical rush no problem at all
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  • Junipus
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    People use TC?
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  • Kelces
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    People use TC?

    Apparently stamina templars do. :smirk:
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  • tinythinker
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    Its partly getting fixed next patch it will now be dodgeable.

    GCD bar lockout and broken pathfinding I expect will not be fixed :)

    Maybe it will cost more like sweeps who knows

    Some folks tested the new fix added yesterday, the lockout and the failure to launch are still there.

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  • Islyn
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    raasdal wrote: »
    Allright, so i have been levelling a new baby-templar (magicka).

    Why in hell did you do that? xD





    (Naw, should be some good dps if not best potentially, at least in pve after patch but lol I literally checked the thread date out of lol )
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    Islyn wrote: »
    That whips DK though - love the mana Not Being Empty!

    I would LOVE some tips! I tend to burn through my mana TOO FAST (I use same rotation etc) and I am not sure what I am doing wrong?

    Any advice from that DK would be SO appreciated!
    YoloWizard wrote: »
    Well, I don't probably do anything different than you its all about the healer you run with. @Kathrein was applying elemental drain and throwing mystic orbs from time to time to synergies. Other than that I would be at 0 magicka all the time
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  • Jhunn
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    Don't go out of your house, baby templar.
    Gave up.
  • driosketch
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    I didn't use to slot it for the longest time, but I've found it's an essential part of my mobility when fighting close range in fields and cover. Kind of risk vs. reward, but it at least works most of the time for me.
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  • Cathexis
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    Yeah I have to say as much as I b & moan about stam sorc problems, templars got some serious issues. At least none of our issues are serious mechanical problems.
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  • Duiwel
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    Toppling Charge is so that the devs can kill you for your tel var stones.

    I died :lol:
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  • Enraged_Tiki_Torch
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    Toppling Charge has always sucked. Even as a Magicka Templar, I have always preferred Stampede (Critical Rush morph). It snares which is nice with Jabs.
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