Xeven wrote: »

i will take this as you admitting to trolling with this thread for your own enjoyment.

Updated OP for my magicka sorcerer brethren.

Xeven wrote: »

Nerfs:

1) We can't double reflect anymore. Who procs the frags? Who relies on reflectable DPS most? Sorc nerf.

2) Our speed buff was reduced 10% and we can't sprint to make up the difference, especially now that drinks don't work while sprinting. Magicka DK and Templar who have no native magicka based buff are relatively faster. Magicka NB stacks it's own speed buff with cloak and concealed weapon. All Stamina is blazing fast either way, they dont even care. Sorc nerf.

3) 25% damage vs shields CP star. Sorcs are the only class utterly dependent on a damage shield. Sorc nerf.

4) Our entire dev round this patch was wasted on pets. Indirect Sorc nerf.

5) All of our toggles are still toggles. All of your toggles are not still toggles. Indirect Sorc nerf.

6) Every other class has received relevant buffs/bug fixes, and we continue to see them with each PTS update. This makes stam and magicka Sorc relatively weaker. Indirect Sorc nerf.

7) One of the 2 spells we have that counter dodge rollers, reflect, and shuffle was nerfed 15% for single targets. Who can't hit a DK? Sorcs can't. Sorc nerf.

8) Dots proc on shields. Sorcs are the only class utterly dependent on a damage shield. Sorc nerf.

"Buffs":

1) Meteor - Everyone got this.

2) A physical mitigation star - Everyone got this.

3) The option to buff just one bar with inner light rather than two - Everyone got this.

4) Combined elemental and magic damage star - Everyone got this. Magiplar, Magiblades and Stam DK have ALWAYS had all of their damage scale with a single star.


Make no mistake, we didn't get anything but nerfs. This isn't a complaint thread. This thread is a reality check for everyone on the nerf sorc bandwagon.

1. dk relies on reflectable dps most actually. so also dk nerf. o and lets not forget sword and board stam users that rely on it often for the same reasonas as sorc. again, a nerf to all and effects dk more than a sorc.
2. again, everyones speed buff was reduced. stop trying to give this as a sorc nerf. all mag builds are in the same boat for that nerf. in fact, it effects dk and templar more.
3. what about a mag blade that relies on healing ward? what about mag dk that relies on healing ward. O lets not forget about dks that use shields for health increase. o and lets not forget every group that is effected by this because of barrier. again, nerf to all.
4. sorry, still cant call a buff a nerf.
5. again, buffs to others is not a nerf to you. keeping an ability the same is not a nerf no matter how you look at it.
6. again, why not go talk to nb and templars. the buffs they received do not counter the nerfs recived. you did not have much done because sorcs were already in a nice spot. mag sorcs that is. you think templar got fixed. please. again, everyone got hit with the nerf hammer this round except dk. in fact, temps and sorc got hit harder so ya.
7. again, this is a nerf to all. really cause you cant hit a player does not mean the rest of us cant. every mag build for the most part had this ability on their bar. stop trying to make this a sorc nerf when it effects everyone equally.
8. again, i bring up group play with barrier, healing ward, and dk shield. groups rely on barrier, mag builds that are not temps or sorcs rely on healing ward, and dk relies on theirs for healing. So again, effects mroe than just sorcs.

Again, would still hit the lol button if I could. Your arguments did not get better by adding "indirect sorc nerf" or "sorc nerf." In fact, your additions to your original post highlight even more your lack of understanding about others playstyle and are simply wrapped up in your own specific build.

Autolycus wrote: »

Xeven wrote: »

Nerfs:
We can't double reflect anymore. Who procs the frags? Who relies on reflectable DPS most? Sorc nerf.

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on this point. Have you ever tried to 1v1 a DK as a magblade? There is literally 1 viable damage skill for a magblade against a DK that can't be reflected. I've learned to accommodate this with my build, what about you?

Whaaat? Lotus Fan, Concealed Weapon, Soul Harvest, all buffed by a single CP star. Two of which are spammable. Holy *** Xeven actually knows WTF he's talking about.

We've got one, and I wouldn't call it viable. A 12k curse translates to 6k with battle spirit. 4k after resistances translates to lol 1,142 DPS when casting as fast as possible, once every 3.5 seconds.

Try harder.

How dare someone defend their class with well thought out points and counter points.

They must be trolling.

This forum is a Sorc hating echo chamber. Whata joke.

Xeven wrote: »

How dare someone defend their class with well thought out points and counter points.

They must be trolling.

This forum is correct and I can't handle it. I'm a joke.

FTFY

The problem is your points are NOT well thought out...learn to debate better.

The entire OP is absolutely true, lol. I never said that nobody else was effected by our nerfs. In fact the entire point of the thread was to squash the ridiculous idea that we were buffed.

It has succeeded spectacularly.

Carry on.

except all it actually illustrated was a list of nerfs for everyone and a list of buffs everyone. congratulations you accomplished nothing.