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Do you think they should get rid of shields for sorcerers?
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Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
then add another pvp only ability which adds a DoT that is high and only affects shields. stay away from our pve!Edited by Equilibriator on February 12, 2016 2:18PM0 -
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✭✭Sorcs with vigor? For what the heal they can't cast once they've dodged like twice? L2dps 2 hits and most sorcs shields are gone and some. Burst damage and a knockdown or stun and they are gone for. Not hard at all. Plenty of stam players know how to rek sorcs instantly. Not hard at all. No shield = no sorcs then no trial completions or harder dungeons. Not like running WGT is easy with other classes.PC Master Race
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ShadowDisciple✭✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsShadowDisciple wrote: »@ShadowDisciple
Scroll up and read my previous post on this topic. That is what needs to happen. It is comment #3.
that fixes nothing...just makes shield stupidd..if you dont have addons how do oyu know harness magicka or hardener ward is about to expire.
I'm done L2P.
im StamBlade bro..i dont care about sorcerers lol..i dislike magicka users in general and i play stam classes...for me sorcerers pose biggest challenge in PvP..mag sorcs that is..and i still think its a dumb idea removmg shields or making them the way you suggested
imo you could l2p..cuz my zerg never got kicked by 1 puny sorcerer lolEdited by ShadowDisciple on February 12, 2016 2:33PM1 -
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsJust give Potion of Protection/Shield for everybody and we are even.1 -
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsRinOkumara wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
You're joking right?
IKR this guy has no idea what he is talking about...
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsJust give Potion of Protection/Shield for everybody and we are even.
Good idea, we have invisibility for all, why not also shields for all
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✭✭✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsNo. They shouldn't get rid of anything in the game.
They just need to continue balance iterations to bring everything in line and remind people their class/build can't be the counter to literally every other class/build.@Turelus - EU PC Megaserver
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dlepi24✭✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsThey shouldn't take them out, but they definitely need reworked. I could be wrong, but didn't all of this come from a "band-aid fix" for the shield interface glitches? They should have fixed that issue instead of just making them stackable like they are now.0 -
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsMoonshadow66 wrote: »
Exactly my point and people wouldnt whine so much about dmg-dealers either. Also theres knockback resist potion. Also if people use more potions, it means people use more Traders.Edited by Sausage on February 12, 2016 2:59PM1 -
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsMoonshadow66 wrote: »
Exactly my point and people wouldnt whine so much about dmg-dealers either. Also theres knockback resist potion. Also if people use more potions, it means people use more Traders.
I couldn't agree more (I craft all potions myself, though, but I sell flowers, at least^^)
And yeah, the knockback resist potions are priceless, that's the main potion I'm using for my stamina characters (Columbine, Mountain Flower, Namira's Rot = Restore Health and Stamina plus gives knockback resistence). No one could complain about these, I guess
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✭✭Shield nerfs no.
Shield changes yes.
Changes that could work. Put shields into major minor system.
And also buff up HA so shields are no longer the best and only defense in the game.0 -
Lenikus✭✭✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsYou guys forget that while shield stacking is annoying, while the guy is in this 'unkillable damage mitigation instance', the damage he can deliver is pretty much negligible. Soo yea. it doesn't mean the class is op, it means you won't get your 800 ap from him for a while.... Mai cave. >:30 -
diskiukas✭✭✭Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.0 -
Mivryna✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsAs others have said, if Nightblades can stealth, Templars can heal like crazy, and Dragon Knights have a whole slew of defensive abilities, I should get to keep my ward.no they are a unique skill and give sorcerers there class identity. What I think hardened ward should do is apply a minor health reduction when the shield is up. That way players can kill the sorc easier when the sorcs shields are down.
The only way my ward is useful is if I focus exclusively on Magicka. That means I already have minimal health and armor. And because of the way spillover damage works, a good hit at low ward could mean that none of my armor matters.Edited by Mivryna on February 12, 2016 4:21PM1 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.
Yo I can kill sorcs. But just because I can doesn't mean that the class is fine. @diskiukasXbox One [ NA ]
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diskiukas✭✭✭Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.
Yo I can kill sorcs. But just because I can doesn't mean that the class is fine. @diskiukasMoonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.
Yo I can kill sorcs. But just because I can doesn't mean that the class is fine. @diskiukas
Yo I doubt that, usually crappy players that being killed over and over come in here and start these moronic nerf posts.Edited by diskiukas on February 12, 2016 4:27PM1 -
EsoRecon✭✭✭✭✭Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.
Yo I can kill sorcs. But just because I can doesn't mean that the class is fine. @diskiukasMoonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Moonshadow66 wrote: »Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.
You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66
Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.
ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66
I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).
@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.
Yes, that's why I mainly PVP with my NB rather than Sorc. Already been nerfed so many times , lets nerf it more so that Cyro would be no 80 % of NB but 99.99 %. Hey grab Shield Breaker , ZOS made it easy mode for people like you to deal with shields.
Yo I can kill sorcs. But just because I can doesn't mean that the class is fine. @diskiukas
Yo I doubt that, usually crappy players that being killed over and over come in here and start these moronic nerf posts.
I didn't start this post and I have beat many magic sorcs in duels as a stamina sorc... I am pretty good at pvp as it is all I play. So pls back off. @diskiukasXbox One [ NA ]
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✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsOk so let's also remove cloak from night blades, healing from Templars, and silly flappy wings from dragon knights0 -
RatedChaotic✭✭✭✭YesYes remove all shields and let the tanks do the defensive buffs. Make tanks useful. Shield stacking is a broken part of this game. If you want a shield equip one on your off hand. Just my thoughts.Edited by RatedChaotic on February 12, 2016 4:46PM0
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✭✭✭✭✭No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfsSure, you can remove our Wards right at the same time as you REMOVE THE COOLDOWN FROM SURGE HEALS AND ALLOW SURGE TO PROC OFF OF ANY DAMAGE.#CAREBEARMASTERRACE0 -
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