Do you think they should get rid of shields for sorcerers?

Shardaxx

It's overpowered, and annoying. Get rid and make them super squishy and pointless to play.

Waseem

this poll is so silly that it doesn't worth my vote

EsoRecon

ZOS doesn't need to keep nerfing shields. They need to change how they work. I have 2 suggestions.
1. Make it so you can't cast another hardened ward till the current one is completely depleted.
2. Make the cost increase everytime you cast it again within say 2-3 secs

Result = Players that don't know how to play sorc can no longer take on a zerg by themselves.

Moonshadow66

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

Moonshadow66

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Waseem wrote: »

this poll is so silly that it doesn't worth my vote

I voted, but I agree nonetheless^^

EsoRecon

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Moonshadow66

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

EsoRecon

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66

nine9six

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Long story made short, no.

Artjuh90

Yes

things like not being able to crit shields and where not really affected by DoTs didn't make any sense. things like you can't be crit while blocking makes sense to me but shields were replacing any means to have any healthinvestment. hell you would get more "hp" with max magicka and shield stacking then you would get by actually put points in health. which to me is a mayor design flaw

Moonshadow66

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66

I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).

EsoRecon

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66

I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).

@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.

LadyNalcarya

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Lets just get rid of all abilities and only allow to use light and heavy attacks.

On a serious note, I just think that other classes shields should be buffed instead, and sorcs could use rebalance between burst and sustained dmg.

Acsvf

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

On a serious note, I just think that other classes shields should be buffed instead,

Moonshadow66

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66

I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).

@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.

Can they even kill a thing when they use up all their magicka just to keep the shields up?^^
Anyways, I wouldn't want them to get nerfed, but like @KoshkaMurka posted, it'd be better to buff the other classes' shields instead.

Eirella

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Shields are OP? LOL. L2P.

Dalsinthus

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

Leave shields as they are. Stop with the massive nerfs with every major update.

Instead of nerfing great abilities like hardened ward and cloak, give players several options to defeat them through smart play, skill morphs on currently underused skills, and gear sets. That way there are counters to strong abilities, but you have to be thoughtful about how you spec your character and classes don't get nerfed into the ground. They could have done something like this for cloak (which could already be countered through detect pots, mark, the old radiant magelight, and aoe); instead they took an ability that nearly every magic build was already using - magelight - and buffed it to be basically must have for nearly every build.

For shields, the change to DoTs and cp may be enough to tone them down without rendering them useless. Shieldbreaker is also available to stamina builds, but it isn't an iWin button. The dps from light and heavy attacks is pretty low even with shield breaker. All a sorc has to do to counter this is turn their attention to the shieldbreaker user and apply dps. They lose when they panic and bolt away or stand in place spam their shields.

Tl/dr: leave shields alone.

khele23eb17_ESO

Dont remove them but give everyone a skill that dispels shields and prevents them from being recast for 5 seconds. That skill should also give 10% crit and +5% stamina just for being equipped on the skill bar.

EsoRecon

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

ZOS nerfs nightblades cloak but not sorcerers far superior shields... If you are a magic sorc you do not have to die, just spam you harden ward. That is OP and doesn't require any skill at all. Shields need a change ASAP. Quit being biased and realize the truth. I play all classes and am not biased towards any of them. @Moonshadow66

I'm not biased, I just don't use the shields all too often (I don't PvP, so it's not really necessary, tbh). And when I do/did, they are not soooo OP as it looks like; it's not that Sorcerers have millions of Magicka to constantly spam shields to keep them up.
I play all classes as well, but I also don't even use Cloak anymore on my NBs (no PvP, no need for Cloak).
For the players who DO use Cloak though, it sucks that it gets nerfed (or removed even?).

@Moonshadow66
Well I see why you don't think shields are OP because you mainly play pve. I play mostly pvp and sorcs can get up to 40k magic np and spam shields all day.

Can they even kill a thing when they use up all their magicka just to keep the shields up?^^
Anyways, I wouldn't want them to get nerfed, but like @KoshkaMurka posted, it'd be better to buff the other classes' shields instead.

@Moonshadow66 watch any magic sorc play pvp and you will see they can keep shields up and do dmg with out losing magic. It is quite easy as a high elf.

EsoRecon

khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »

Dont remove them but give everyone a skill that dispels shields and prevents them from being recast for 5 seconds. That skill should also give 10% crit and +5% stamina just for being equipped on the skill bar.

Love this idea, but it will never happen because ZOS loves magic sorcs and would never do anything that would hinder them.

ShadowDisciple

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

just make em critabble and reduce crit damage on them by like 40%

EsoRecon

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

just make em critabble and reduce crit damage on them by like 40%

This will not solve the problem. @ShadowDisciple

ShadowDisciple

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

EsoRecon wrote: »

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

just make em critabble and reduce crit damage on them by like 40%

This will not solve the problem. @ShadowDisciple

ummm yes it would...at least reduce it by drastic amount.. reduce the problem i mean

EsoRecon

@ShadowDisciple
Scroll up and read my previous post on this topic. That is what needs to happen. It is comment #3.

ShadowDisciple

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

EsoRecon wrote: »

@ShadowDisciple
Scroll up and read my previous post on this topic. That is what needs to happen. It is comment #3.

that fixes nothing...just makes shield stupidd..if you dont have addons how do oyu know harness magicka or hardener ward is about to expire.

Lirkin

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

If they get rid of shields for sorcerer is like removing armor from the other classes.

tennant94

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

no they are a unique skill and give sorcerers there class identity. What I think hardened ward should do is apply a minor health reduction when the shield is up. That way players can kill the sorc easier when the sorcs shields are down.

Eejit1331

No don't be stupid, and stop suggesting nerfs

I think there should be a poll to see if OP's that make polls like this should be castrated.

EsoRecon

ShadowDisciple wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

@ShadowDisciple
Scroll up and read my previous post on this topic. That is what needs to happen. It is comment #3.

that fixes nothing...just makes shield stupidd..if you dont have addons how do oyu know harness magicka or hardener ward is about to expire.

I'm done L2P.

RinOkumara

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

You're joking right?

EsoRecon

RinOkumara wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

EsoRecon wrote: »

Moonshadow66 wrote: »

Ok, start playing a Sorcerer, then ask this question again.

You have to admit though magic sorcerers are too good with shields... @Moonshadow66

Maybe when they also have Vigor on the bar.. which I don't.

You're joking right?

IKR this guy has no idea what he is talking about...
@RinOkumara