Volkodav wrote: »

Cazzy wrote: »

I agree but I also choose to believe ESO is not canon in the ES series.

I agree with you that ESO isnt Canon.

The general storyline is, the Three Banners War, Planemeld, etc...

But that does not mean everything fits perfectly.

So the events are canon, but obviously some liberties are taken to make it fit a MMO.

Many things in TES games are not canon... pretty much everything the player has any say at. What race was the dragonborn during Skyrim? Probably Nord. what race was the Neverarine? That one is not as easy. The hero of the Oblivion Crisis? Could be any race.

It's the setting and the events that take place, for the most part, are canon. There's a lot of unknowns. Like pretty much all the side quests. Did the heroes in any of the game actually do that in lore? No way to know.

So basically it's this: the main quests and settings in the games are canon (minus little details), player choices are not. There are errors. Like the locations of some places are moved. Or locations existing when they shouldn't yet (mostly some of the names of the food that suggest they come from a town that isn't even founded yet).

It's hard to be 100% in canon and sometimes things need to be bent for simplicity (like why we only see a few types of Khajiit: suthay-raht [all player Khajiit and all but one NPC], cathay-raht [the Khajiit in the Mages Guild in Windhelm, the huge guy]).

One thing that confuses me though is that they had the new Mane be female... lore states that the Mane is always male. Perhaps they changed that in ESO cause they thought it was sexist...

Also the enchanting changes... enchanting is done using soul gems not these runes. You can't resurrect people with soul gems.

I do feel ESO would have been better if the leveling was like the other TES games (before Skyrim) where you had attributes like intelligence, strength, etc as well as skills: the various schools of magic, weapons, stealth, security, etc.

You have access to any build. You could truly "play the way you want." So you build your build, no mindless XP grind.

If you wanted to change your build you'd do training. Imagine the quests this could add! Learn a master level spell...learn a new weapon... IT WOULD BE AMAZING.

Guess it's gonna stay broken.

Cazzy wrote: »

I agree but I also choose to believe ESO is not canon in the ES series.

yes it is canon. bethesda not only published but also supervised the lore...

MMO enviromet has some inherited rules...and lore is there to serve the game and not the other way around...

And edo was mindfull of some things...for example it all happens after Vanus Galerion established mages guild so that it makes sense that tons of ppl are using magic etc..

Skyrim was the first game in the entire series to do bounty on a hold-by-hold basis. All the other games had unified criminal systems. This makes perfect sense, however, as in Skyrim they are fighting a civil war simultaneously with a foreign occupation and moreover with a dragon epidemic occurring. It would be unfeasible to manage a unified criminal system in such a state, since any one city would not necessarily be allied with the government of another city at the time.

In ESO, however, we have a period of rapid imperialistic expansion driven by "allied governments", all of whom desire to gain complete control of Tamriel by controlling the Ruby Throne. In such a state, a unified criminal justice system not only makes sense, it is imperative for expansion to be successful. So zone-by-zone bounties are right out, logically speaking.

As for cross-alliance bounties, that makes plenty of sense, too! You think a criminal from an enemy nation is going to be welcome in your country? Heck no!! Cross-faction law cooperation makes sense because, even after all is conquered and the world is united under the victorious faction, the local governments are still going to be in charge of run-of-the-mill law and order for their province. As such, wartime cooperation between certain civil service professionals is necessary and, indeed, vital for the success of the unified empire during the reparations period.

And as for everyone saying that ESO isn't canon... stop being boring. :-p

I'd approve of this because I have 77 million global bounty and nobody will like me for the next years.

myrrrorb14_ESO wrote: »

A crime against non combat civilians is universal in Tamriel. Killing someone is a crime in all kingdoms, even if they are Argonians. The same goes for stealing. No one will welcome a known thief into there cities and due to existence of plentiful magic, everyone will know in seconds.

This is as it should be Thief!

That made me laugh.

What about High Elves?