On pts, does rapid maneuvers cancel if you buff yourself?

Cathexis · February 2016

Just wondering, it says in the notes it cancels if you buff an ally, but if I cast a heal on myself do I lose the buff?
If so, this skill is officially useless.

GreenSoup2HoT · February 2016

I'd like to know the answer to this as well.

After Retreating Maneuver got a 10 second duration buff from 20 second's making it a total 30 second's, the skill is a lot more useful in my opinion.

Scamandros · February 2016

Can you remove the existing buff by recasting manuevers? :P

MountainHound · February 2016

I thought if you get heals it takes it off?

Cathexis · February 2016

Scamandros wrote: »

Can you remove the existing buff by recasting manuevers? :P

Definitely yes ^_^

Cathexis · February 2016

MountainHound wrote: »

I thought if you get heals it takes it off?

So if I heal myself do I lose the buff? Because if you are retreating usually you also have to be healing. Otherwise the skill should just be called "maneuvering maneuvers" since it would no long provide cc immunity or the ability to retreat successfully.

Cathexis · February 2016

Anyone?

Xeniph · February 2016

No, it doesn't even cancel if you heal yourself. However if you heal or buff anyone else it does.

This change was specifically designed to nerf zerg healing. As anyone could keep the benefits of Rapid while spamming heals as long as they didn't attack.

GreenSoup2HoT · February 2016

Xeniph wrote: »

No, it doesn't even cancel if you heal yourself. However if you heal or buff anyone else it does.

This change was specifically designed to nerf zerg healing. As anyone could keep the benefits of Rapid while spamming heals as long as they didn't attack.

Still suck's though. If you are a nightblade trying to get away with rapid's and pop vigor to heal.... well you better make sure no one is effected.

Master_Kas · February 2016

Xeniph wrote: »

No, it doesn't even cancel if you heal yourself. However if you heal or buff anyone else it does.

This change was specifically designed to nerf zerg healing. As anyone could keep the benefits of Rapid while spamming heals as long as they didn't attack.

It's a nerf to smaller groups aswell, as they cannot heal and kite with manouvers when the angry 50 man blob chases them :P Nerf goes both ways.

Cathexis · February 2016

So if you run solo vigor before maneuvers is now always required.

Xeniph · February 2016

GreenSoup2HoT wrote: »

Xeniph wrote: »

No, it doesn't even cancel if you heal yourself. However if you heal or buff anyone else it does.

This change was specifically designed to nerf zerg healing. As anyone could keep the benefits of Rapid while spamming heals as long as they didn't attack.

Still suck's though. If you are a nightblade trying to get away with rapid's and pop vigor to heal.... well you better make sure no one is effected.

Master_Kas wrote: »

Xeniph wrote: »

No, it doesn't even cancel if you heal yourself. However if you heal or buff anyone else it does.

This change was specifically designed to nerf zerg healing. As anyone could keep the benefits of Rapid while spamming heals as long as they didn't attack.

It's a nerf to smaller groups aswell, as they cannot heal and kite with manouvers when the angry 50 man blob chases them :P Nerf goes both ways.

Both of these are true.

Cathexis · February 2016

I can already see people logging on their alts just to spam vigor on teams they don't like, or worse.

Xeniph · February 2016

Cathexis wrote: »

I can already see people logging on their alts just to spam vigor on teams they don't like, or worse.

It doesn't work like this. You can be healed/ buffed from an outside source and keep your rapid. You just can't buff/ heal someone else and keep your own rapid.

Cathexis · February 2016

Xeniph wrote: »

Cathexis wrote: »

I can already see people logging on their alts just to spam vigor on teams they don't like, or worse.

It doesn't work like this. You can be healed/ buffed from an outside source and keep your rapid. You just can't buff/ heal someone else and keep your own rapid.

Ahhh right ok.

SmalltalkJava · February 2016

It will be good to see all of the heal kiting reduced a bit. it was annoying,. But I feel bad for you that used it.