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Islyn✭✭✭✭✭
✭So instead of being able to heal all of the Beatles, you can only heal John, George, and Paul.
Good. Ringo can bring his own *** heals to the fight or he can just get the *** off.
It heals a total of 2 now. It used to heal 3.
Was Yourself plus 2 now is yourself plus 1.
You can heal Simon and Garfunkel. As long as you're Simon or Garfunkel.Edited by Islyn on February 4, 2016 1:48PMMember of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20138 -
SinapticSoul ShrivenThere was nothing wrong with BoL the way it was. The nerf was to appease a small subset (the 1vX players) of PvP players and does not represent a positive change for the rest of the community.
I personally have a hard enough time healing dungeons with BoL as is (with a full maxed out healer with best is slot gear). I'm told I am a good healer but I assure you I find it to be a struggle at times. With this BoL nerf I cant imagine being a decent healer, makes me not even want to try to be honest.
If this nerf makes it to live, finding a healer for dungeons will become more difficult than it already is. Less healers = less players doing dungeons = less players in the end. That is the way i see it anyway.
ZOS you guy really need to reevaluate your priorities and think about the health of the game instead of some small subset that just want an easier time to kill people in cyrodil.
Sinaptic
Tbh my baby(as in inexperienced) temp healer had no issues healing all ingame dungeons, including vICP and WGT, with just BoL. And most of that was at v9-v12 even in v16 dungeons(did all but WGT/ICP without battle leveling then). With right magicka management I could spam BoL literally ENDLESSLY. No need to slot other heals. I mean buffs, off dps, that's all good, but just to keep group up? Just spam BoL. Not enough? Spam it more.
That challenge. Perhaps now we'll actually have to think about our healing
Also, why is everyone jumping PvP people for this? This appears like a general PvE balance change to me. It seems they're trying to make sure all classes can heal(somewhat equally). I'm not sure they went the best way about it, but there's no reason to jump the good old "PvP-ers ruined our PvE again/PvE-ers ruined our PvP again" bandwagon.
A nerf to BoL might not be that awful in terms of overall game balance, I dunno though, it's still a major nerf to the class and I'd say templars need some major love to compensate for that.
I wont argue that there are better healers in this game than me but i also know there are far worse ones. Taking away BoL as it is will reduce the pool of viable end game dungeon healers in the game. I don't think that can be debated. Less available healers, which are already in short supply, is going to hurt the game.
Can anyone reference a video of someone healing as a templar in v16 wgt or any of the new dungeons without having Bol slotted?Edited by Sinaptic on February 4, 2016 5:15PM2 -
Hapsmo911✭✭Why couldn't they just leave it alone and put it on a large timmer like 10 min? That way if you need a big heal great you get one, the class still brings something to the table others cant and is useful. If your group isn't that great and needs spammed insane heals then you should not win the fight. Maybe I am wrong, just my 2 cents.0
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✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Lol - getting blame for something I didnt ask for. Nice
@FENGRUSH Actually you did. And all it took to find it was a simple google search.
For example in this video @2:02:15 is the discussion where you back up King Richard on the call for Templar breath of life heal nerfs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slt4CZOk67g
And on this forum post this is what you wrote, "Nerf breath of life everything will be OK then!" http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/236152/get-rid-of-templar-class
Or how about this forum post where you also request for BOL nerf multiple times. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241555/los-on-heals
The list goes on for days on posts you have written requesting breath of life nerfs.However, I do not feel like spending anymore time on writing more sources.
Well FENGRUSH, congratulations you finally got your wish and more future 1 vs. 10+ videos for your Twitch stream.
Lol - so a discussion where were talking about groups with numbers outlasting people and slamming heals is terrible gameplay is calling for nerfs to templars.
The next quote is a troll post so - maybe ZOS read that troll post and took it to the drawing board.
If you really think they did the things I suggested stam sorc would actually have had changes in the last few patches and AOE caps would have some change. Stop whining.
Lol, Someone is salty they got caught lying. You should have stayed quiet. Now people who didn't even know who you were before this just think you're full of BS.
Caught lying? Cut my clip explaining this more in depth - but not sure where you see lies at in the last posts. Take time to understand and post your point of view if you want. Otherwise you just trolling and have no added value to the discussion.
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Magdalina✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭There was nothing wrong with BoL the way it was. The nerf was to appease a small subset (the 1vX players) of PvP players and does not represent a positive change for the rest of the community.
I personally have a hard enough time healing dungeons with BoL as is (with a full maxed out healer with best is slot gear). I'm told I am a good healer but I assure you I find it to be a struggle at times. With this BoL nerf I cant imagine being a decent healer, makes me not even want to try to be honest.
If this nerf makes it to live, finding a healer for dungeons will become more difficult than it already is. Less healers = less players doing dungeons = less players in the end. That is the way i see it anyway.
ZOS you guy really need to reevaluate your priorities and think about the health of the game instead of some small subset that just want an easier time to kill people in cyrodil.
Sinaptic
Tbh my baby(as in inexperienced) temp healer had no issues healing all ingame dungeons, including vICP and WGT, with just BoL. And most of that was at v9-v12 even in v16 dungeons(did all but WGT/ICP without battle leveling then). With right magicka management I could spam BoL literally ENDLESSLY. No need to slot other heals. I mean buffs, off dps, that's all good, but just to keep group up? Just spam BoL. Not enough? Spam it more.
That challenge. Perhaps now we'll actually have to think about our healing
Also, why is everyone jumping PvP people for this? This appears like a general PvE balance change to me. It seems they're trying to make sure all classes can heal(somewhat equally). I'm not sure they went the best way about it, but there's no reason to jump the good old "PvP-ers ruined our PvE again/PvE-ers ruined our PvP again" bandwagon.
A nerf to BoL might not be that awful in terms of overall game balance, I dunno though, it's still a major nerf to the class and I'd say templars need some major love to compensate for that.
I wont argue that there are better healers in this game than me but i also know there are far worse ones. Taking away BoL as it is will reduce the pool of viable end game dungeon healers in the game. I don't think that can be debated. Less available healers, which are already in short supply, is going to hurt the game.
Can anyone reference a video of someone healing as a templar in v16 wgt or any of the new dungeons without having Bol slotted?
Taking away BoL will (probably) reduce the amount of templar healers. But we will probably be seeing more DK and sorc and probably about same amount of NB(who are already pretty popular) healers, so the overall pool likely won't suffer but will be separated more evenly between the classes. You have to admit that from this side it's a positive change.
From another side, even if this does turn out better for the overall balance of the game in the long run, it is still a major nerf to templar here and now, I'd say templars need something to compensate for this, like lots of warm shiny love which I didn't see them getting, which is a bit weird tbh. ...though considering it's ZOS, guess not really unusual>.>0 -
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✭✭Praeficere wrote: »
Well, all they changed was now we have to spam BoL even more if things suddenly go south for a group. I guess that's technically more active, but I fail to see how it's more meaningful.
To be fair, there is no direct equivalent to BoL on a DK Healer, yet nothing is really spammed unless it's a Trial.
Your point? Templar was always meant to be a healer, Dk was not. The fact they are even comparable now just shows how far Templars have been hammered into the ground.
you have a gross misunderstanding of this games class / skill design.2 -
Seido_Tensei_✭✭✭I am actually very happy with the Templar changes. Stamina Templar got some much needed passive improvements. Major mending with vigor!0
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✭✭✭cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »Thanks for nerfing my fcuking templar healer. Just because some half *** streamer complained because their healers were dog ***. Why couldnt they just buff other healers instead of nerfing templars? Its been healing 2 extra players since beta. . We have *** poor CC, *** little sunshield that barely helps, we have lackluster dps, and most of the skills were bugged and the only thing we had going was the healing line. None of the buffs actually helped stamina templars.
They want to stop templar healers spamming BOL? Now its going to be worse, because they are going to be spamming harder just to get that extra target thats taking damage.
Yet sorcs get a 30k damage shield in one move, and can turn on overload and pull 40k dps with light attacks.. clicking one mouse button. Yea and templars are the one that need nerfs.
THIS ^^PC EU ADMaster Crafter - Anything you need!!High Elf Magicka Templar Healer/DPS/TankTrials / Dungeons / PVP / Everything0 -
Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭So people don't want random heals landing on a target they are trying to kill in PvP.
So get rid of BoL completely and give us a true Group Heal.
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Sempars✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Lol - getting blame for something I didnt ask for. Nice
@FENGRUSH Actually you did. And all it took to find it was a simple google search.
For example in this video @2:02:15 is the discussion where you back up King Richard on the call for Templar breath of life heal nerfs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slt4CZOk67g
And on this forum post this is what you wrote, "Nerf breath of life everything will be OK then!" http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/236152/get-rid-of-templar-class
Or how about this forum post where you also request for BOL nerf multiple times. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241555/los-on-heals
The list goes on for days on posts you have written requesting breath of life nerfs.However, I do not feel like spending anymore time on writing more sources.
Well FENGRUSH, congratulations you finally got your wish and more future 1 vs. 10+ videos for your Twitch stream.
Lol - so a discussion where were talking about groups with numbers outlasting people and slamming heals is terrible gameplay is calling for nerfs to templars.
The next quote is a troll post so - maybe ZOS read that troll post and took it to the drawing board.
If you really think they did the things I suggested stam sorc would actually have had changes in the last few patches and AOE caps would have some change. Stop whining.
Lol, Someone is salty they got caught lying. You should have stayed quiet. Now people who didn't even know who you were before this just think you're full of BS.
Caught lying? Cut my clip explaining this more in depth - but not sure where you see lies at in the last posts. Take time to understand and post your point of view if you want. Otherwise you just trolling and have no added value to the discussion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HJe5FjBIdo
sooo heal through trees and rocks ok? just not through castle walls?2 -
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✭@FENGRUSH
I don't blame you for the change to BOL, I blame the devs. You didn't ask for a two target heal, you asked for the direct 100% strength heal portion to be nerfed.
"They should probably address heals that cover entire health bars and are instant.
It is that way - that is why BoL/healing needs to be revisited. Healing should not outdo damage."
However, I do absolutely believe the devs decided to nerf us again due to PVP players complaining about not being able to burst people down when a healer is around. You are part of this crowd and as such I do think you influenced their decision. It's not fair to directly correlate the change to you however.
It does suck though that BOL is nerfed so hard but the cost is the same. HtD will be my go to from now on.
P.S. I still do not agree with you that a DPS should be able to out scale a healer 1:1.5 -
Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭P.S. I still do not agree with you that a DPS should be able to out scale a healer 1:1.
This.
The best PvP environments I recall are those where groups had to pick their targets and assist in hopes of besting the situation. One single player should never be able to just wtfpwn a player in a group with resources.
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✭itscompton wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Lol - getting blame for something I didnt ask for. Nice
@FENGRUSH Actually you did. And all it took to find it was a simple google search.
For example in this video @2:02:15 is the discussion where you back up King Richard on the call for Templar breath of life heal nerfs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slt4CZOk67g
And on this forum post this is what you wrote, "Nerf breath of life everything will be OK then!" http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/236152/get-rid-of-templar-class
Or how about this forum post where you also request for BOL nerf multiple times. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241555/los-on-heals
The list goes on for days on posts you have written requesting breath of life nerfs.However, I do not feel like spending anymore time on writing more sources.
Well FENGRUSH, congratulations you finally got your wish and more future 1 vs. 10+ videos for your Twitch stream.
Lol - so a discussion where were talking about groups with numbers outlasting people and slamming heals is terrible gameplay is calling for nerfs to templars.
The next quote is a troll post so - maybe ZOS read that troll post and took it to the drawing board.
If you really think they did the things I suggested stam sorc would actually have had changes in the last few patches and AOE caps would have some change. Stop whining.
Lol, Someone is salty they got caught lying. You should have stayed quiet. Now people who didn't even know who you were before this just think you're full of BS.
Caught lying? Cut my clip explaining this more in depth - but not sure where you see lies at in the last posts. Take time to understand and post your point of view if you want. Otherwise you just trolling and have no added value to the discussion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HJe5FjBIdo
sooo heal through trees and rocks ok? just not through castle walls?
so fenrush get's mad because the healers which are several do the same amount of heals with several templars then he does dps. seems legit. just DPS all that will be left in the game.
P.s. healing reduction is in CP tree. as there are skills that reduce healing might look to them Edited by Artjuh90 on February 4, 2016 10:45PM0 -
me_ming✭✭✭✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »Hand_Bacon wrote: »CrowsDescend wrote: »I found it annoying trying to kill someone/a small group who had a Templar brainlessly spamming BoL.
It is so annoying trying to kill another player who is getting healed in the most effective way at that time and place. I mean, how rude.
I also find it intensely annoying when somebody fights back. Don't they know how many anonymous noobs should just lay down at my passing?
It is nice to see a self effacing Templar though, really puts the icing on it.
Spamming BoL near your teammates (even if they're not in your group and you can't particularly see them) -/through walls/gates/doors/rocks etc. Is brainless though.
Maybe it's because I came from WoW (before it turned bad) where healing kinda took skill; in high-rated PvP especially, now some may disagree because you could literally spam-heal on WoW, but... at least (as healers) we had to use more than 1 button to be an effective healer, plus LoS made it skillful.
Not every Templar prefers to be a dedicated group healer/zerg healer.
I don't think you see what I mean.
It's not being brainless if you're a healer, whether in a group or not, and if you're in the middle of the zerg v zerg, you're geared for healing, you're spec for healing, you know what you're BoL can do and you spam it (or any other healing skill you have)? Or would you prefer your healer to chat with your healer first, get to know your strategy, your gameplay, your skills, everything about you before he/she heals you? What's brainless, is if you're a healer in a middle of the zerg v zerg, and you're not healing people. It doesn't matter if you're in the same group or not, you're in one alliance, you heal whoever you can heal, you beat up whoever on the opposing team can you beat up. I suppose, the kind of healing you want is targeted healing, like a skill-shoot where you have to aim your healing. lol. Try doing that in a zerg v zerg or even in a 1vX scenario, since you're that "skilled" I suppose you can do that, target your group mates. lol.
I don't understand though, what's wrong with spamming BoL when someone is spamming WB on me? What did you want me to do stand there and do nothing?"We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
-Caldwell, "The Final Assault"
"There is always a choice. But you don't get to choose what is true, you only get to choose what you will do about it..."
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✭They've also Nerfed sweep, only heals for 35% instead of 40%. But don't worry, as long as you stand in your rune the buff will compensate for the loss......NA PC | AD
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YeOldeGamer✭✭✭He still won't be about to 1 v 2 templars. But yes, the guy is a terrible voice for the community and the game would definitely be in a better place without his complaining, at least he'll no longer be able to exploit the Kena set, I guess it'll be back to WB spamming for that sorc....
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FENGRUSH✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@FENGRUSH
I don't blame you for the change to BOL, I blame the devs. You didn't ask for a two target heal, you asked for the direct 100% strength heal portion to be nerfed.
"They should probably address heals that cover entire health bars and are instant.
It is that way - that is why BoL/healing needs to be revisited. Healing should not outdo damage."
However, I do absolutely believe the devs decided to nerf us again due to PVP players complaining about not being able to burst people down when a healer is around. You are part of this crowd and as such I do think you influenced their decision. It's not fair to directly correlate the change to you however.
It does suck though that BOL is nerfed so hard but the cost is the same. HtD will be my go to from now on.
P.S. I still do not agree with you that a DPS should be able to out scale a healer 1:1.
For me its not outdoing people that are CC breaking and buffing keeping things going on their end too. If someone is spent, laying on the ground, take that templar for example in the video shown. If that templar was AFK, and me and another were trying to kill, we wouldnt have killed that templar who was AFK in the bathroom taking a dump because you just cant burst it. And alone? Not even the slightest chance. Why cant you kill a player thats AFK due solely to healing? Pretty much the first patch this has happened. Before healing was a SUPPLEMENT to survival, you had to do things on your end too. Healing outdoing DPS is pretty questionable. Its literally saying you should be able to keep people AFK alive.2 -
YeOldeGamer✭✭✭cote-bmsb16_ESO wrote: »Thanks for nerfing my fcuking templar healer. Just because some half *** streamer complained because their healers were dog ***. Why couldnt they just buff other healers instead of nerfing templars? Its been healing 2 extra players since beta. . We have *** poor CC, *** little sunshield that barely helps, we have lackluster dps, and most of the skills were bugged and the only thing we had going was the healing line. None of the buffs actually helped stamina templars.
They want to stop templar healers spamming BOL? Now its going to be worse, because they are going to be spamming harder just to get that extra target thats taking damage.
Yet sorcs get a 30k damage shield in one move, and can turn on overload and pull 40k dps with light attacks.. clicking one mouse button. Yea and templars are the one that need nerfs.
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✭exeeter702 wrote: »Praeficere wrote: »
Well, all they changed was now we have to spam BoL even more if things suddenly go south for a group. I guess that's technically more active, but I fail to see how it's more meaningful.
To be fair, there is no direct equivalent to BoL on a DK Healer, yet nothing is really spammed unless it's a Trial.
Your point? Templar was always meant to be a healer, Dk was not. The fact they are even comparable now just shows how far Templars have been hammered into the ground.
you have a gross misunderstanding of this games class / skill design.
Then Explain how templars are the only class with 1/3 class skills dedicated healing.
Thanks.Member of the Old Guard - Closed Betas 20130 -
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✭✭Hand_Bacon wrote: »The whole "play the way you want" has been totally misunderstood.
Sure, play your class the way you want, but don't expect to be the best at everything at all times. Its pretty clear that classes were meant to have strengths which differentiate themselves.
Sure, you can fill any role, but don't expect to fill it as well as x class. Damn people, make choices and live with them.
Lets just take away all class skill lines and passives. Give us weapon and armor lines only, and no racial passives. Let us choose classes for....wait for it..."reasons".
This is the cookie cutter argument when someone suggests to add something to the Tamplars, i.e. mobility, elusiveness, hard hitting DPS, immobilizing stunlocking CC, hard hitting AoEs or stealth.
Now give me the standard cookie cutter argument when I point at your example above and suggest removing something from other classes, like any other class heals other than Templars be removed or nerfed by at least 50%. That's to balance that Templars are supposed to be the only one to do healing as well as for example NBs do stealth and mobility. Leaving all other classes the choice of sacrificing one weapons bar to Restoration staff if they want to do heals/self heals. "Damn people, make choices and live with them."
Sure, you can fill any role, but don't expect to fill a heal role as well as the Templar class. Right?Edited by Idinuse on February 5, 2016 8:25AMSed ut perspiciatis unde omnis iste natus error sit voluptatem accusantium dolorem que laudantium, totam rem aperiam, eaque ipsa quae ab illo inventore veritatis et quasi architecto beatae vitae dicta sunt explicabo. Nemo enim ipsam voluptatem quia voluptas sit aspernatur aut odit aut fugit, sed quia consequuntur magni dolores eos qui ratione voluptatem sequi nesciunt. Neque porro quisquam est, qui dolorem ipsum quia dolor sit amet, consectetur, adipisci velit, sed quia non numquam eius modi tempora incidunt ut labore et dolore magnam aliquam quaerat voluptatem. Ut enim ad minima veniam, quis nostrum exercitationem ullam corporis suscipit laboriosam, nisi ut aliquid ex ea commodi consequatur? Quis autem vel eum iure reprehenderit qui in ea voluptate velit esse quam nihil molestiae consequatur, vel illum qui dolorem eum fugiat quo voluptas nulla pariatur?0 -
Hand_Bacon✭✭✭✭✭This is the cookie cutter argument when someone suggests to add something to the Tamplars, i.e. mobility, elusiveness, hard hitting DPS, immobilizing stunlocking CC, hard hitting AoEs or stealth.
Actually the argument stands for any change that tries to make any class more like another. More uniqueness is what's needed.
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timidobserver✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭itscompton wrote: »Justice31st wrote: »Lol - getting blame for something I didnt ask for. Nice
@FENGRUSH Actually you did. And all it took to find it was a simple google search.
For example in this video @2:02:15 is the discussion where you back up King Richard on the call for Templar breath of life heal nerfs.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Slt4CZOk67g
And on this forum post this is what you wrote, "Nerf breath of life everything will be OK then!" http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/236152/get-rid-of-templar-class
Or how about this forum post where you also request for BOL nerf multiple times. http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/241555/los-on-heals
The list goes on for days on posts you have written requesting breath of life nerfs.However, I do not feel like spending anymore time on writing more sources.
Well FENGRUSH, congratulations you finally got your wish and more future 1 vs. 10+ videos for your Twitch stream.
Lol - so a discussion where were talking about groups with numbers outlasting people and slamming heals is terrible gameplay is calling for nerfs to templars.
The next quote is a troll post so - maybe ZOS read that troll post and took it to the drawing board.
If you really think they did the things I suggested stam sorc would actually have had changes in the last few patches and AOE caps would have some change. Stop whining.
Lol, Someone is salty they got caught lying. You should have stayed quiet. Now people who didn't even know who you were before this just think you're full of BS.
Caught lying? Cut my clip explaining this more in depth - but not sure where you see lies at in the last posts. Take time to understand and post your point of view if you want. Otherwise you just trolling and have no added value to the discussion.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HJe5FjBIdo
All you had to do was interrupt your wrecking blow spamming for a few moments and apply a heal debuff, or better yet, pop werewolf so you can spam apply a heal debuff. At that point she would have died. You did the same thing to one of my groups a while back. You rushed in, dropped a negate on us of all things, wrecking blow spammed one of our healers, and then complained about not being able to wrecking blow spam them to death.
Also, this is nothing like fighting someone that is afk. This is a coordinated group that runs together all the time and you are attacking their main healer. They are in Teamspeak and are most likely calling out for people to heal her.
Edited by timidobserver on February 5, 2016 1:20PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
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Sempars✭✭✭I like how if you don't agree with him you're just trolling lol...
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AOECAPS✭✭✭✭
Because they don't respond to questions in regards to nerfing Templars.CrowsDescend wrote: »Whether you used WoW macros or not, BoL spamming through objects/scenery is brainless. Simple as, really
Not judging people who do it, just saying... it's brainless. Why don't you try asking ZOS why they want to nerf BoL anyway?
Because they don't even know why.
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AOECAPS✭✭✭✭@FENGRUSH commenting about BoL wasn't the problem or the reason it got nerfed. It was the mindless drones of Templars spamming Bol while balling uptight and lack of line of sight checks on it. Instead of fixing the core issues with the lack of line of sight Zos went the lazy route and just allowed it to heal 1 less instead of making a line of sight check which would have fixed the ability and everyone's issue with Bol. I can't count how many times I've ran the sewers to see some guy stay alive because he's getting healed across a room and through a tunnel. Plus it shouldn't surprise you but Templars abilities keep getting nerfed lol increase cost for sweeps and jabs we have the worst resource management in game still have to sit in circles to get a resources back slot a skill to increase regen and our shield still sucks as well as empowering sweep. They increased all class heals because Templars are being removed in dark brotherhood. Main story quest missions will be killing all Templars every time 1 dies their character will be removed from save files and the game0
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✭@FENGRUSH
I don't blame you for the change to BOL, I blame the devs. You didn't ask for a two target heal, you asked for the direct 100% strength heal portion to be nerfed.
"They should probably address heals that cover entire health bars and are instant.
It is that way - that is why BoL/healing needs to be revisited. Healing should not outdo damage."
However, I do absolutely believe the devs decided to nerf us again due to PVP players complaining about not being able to burst people down when a healer is around. You are part of this crowd and as such I do think you influenced their decision. It's not fair to directly correlate the change to you however.
It does suck though that BOL is nerfed so hard but the cost is the same. HtD will be my go to from now on.
P.S. I still do not agree with you that a DPS should be able to out scale a healer 1:1.
For me its not outdoing people that are CC breaking and buffing keeping things going on their end too. If someone is spent, laying on the ground, take that templar for example in the video shown. If that templar was AFK, and me and another were trying to kill, we wouldnt have killed that templar who was AFK in the bathroom taking a dump because you just cant burst it. And alone? Not even the slightest chance. Why cant you kill a player thats AFK due solely to healing? Pretty much the first patch this has happened. Before healing was a SUPPLEMENT to survival, you had to do things on your end too. Healing outdoing DPS is pretty questionable. Its literally saying you should be able to keep people AFK alive.
@FENGRUSH i do think you should be able to outheal 1:1 dps vs heal. Not by a single healing spell though. why do i think this? because dps also has dealing debuffs and CC. BoL alone should not be enough and let's be fair the situaltion as in the video can still be happening with this "fix"to BoL. main thing they "fixed" is PvE healing with BoL.
i do agree with you that resourcemanagement is WAY offEdited by Artjuh90 on February 5, 2016 2:16PM0 -
DurzoBlint13✭✭✭✭why the hell is everyone ganging up on Feng Rush? If you truly believe he was the catalyst that caused the change and that the Devs listen to streamers exclusively, they would have buffed stam sorc ages ago. 3 of every 4 stam sorcs are running his builds and he has talked about the needed changes to that class several times. If you think his opinion carries that much weight, then why have they not done anything to the improve stamina builds in general and stam sorcs in particular? There have been numerous posts by him calling out the devs to do something about the lack of choices for stamina builds. So you think they listen to one post about Templars and ignore every other post about stam builds?0
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Addihul✭✭✭I'm going to speak from a Trials perspective over on the PTS. The changes to ritual are amazing. Absolutely baller in fact. At max buffs my healing springs was hitting for 8k and I saw a 22.5k combat prayer in there at one point. Changing BoL and Funnel forced healers to be more versatile, using a myriad of different heals. As a main healer for our trials guild, I LOVE the fact my rituals are adding heal bonuses to ALL healing spells now. I can't speak to PvP, but from a raiding perspective, the changes are absolutely clutch.Pevara La'Roche - NA / DC - The Order of Mundus - http://orderofmundus.com0 -
cavakthestampede✭✭✭IrishGirlGamer wrote: »
"The game was designed from the ground up so that every no single player could access every skill line."
The previous statement made was that you can access every skill line. Not that you could have them all concurrently.
And yes that was statement was made assuming you could contextualize the statement to understand its implied restrictions. This is how meaningful communication occurs. Your pedantic arguments interrupt meaningful communication.
Also, you can max every skill line (again outside of class skills) by respeccing and exploring different morphs and leveling them. This doesnt even take much time.
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