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Meteor Skill
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leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Can nb's still just cloak it?PS4 EU DC
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Lord-Otto✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Good change, imo.
Should we see more DKs in the future, meteors would become a suicide pill and cause even further lag.
Just block it, like you have to do with other ults.1 -
me_ming✭✭✭✭✭Now everyone will use Meteor, good luck to your fps/ping in cyrodiil."We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Reading through the patch notes, got to the meteor part, immediately checked the General forums and immediately knew that was exactly what this post was about. 100% agree, this is terrible.
Meteor is a high-damage, single target AoE (???) ability with a ground-based DoT component. Other single-target AoE abilities, like Dragon Knight Leap, can have their damage avoided entirely with a dodge roll. If I'm taking the time to slot one of the few reflective skills in the game, I want some bang for my buck, such as countering this super-high-powered ability. If not reflectable, PLEASE at least make it dodgeable!! I don't want to be spending the next few months on live just soaking in meteor after meteor because there's no defense against it.
Like for real here, the meteor spam is already so high on NA PC AZ, and the only thing saving my guild from facing coordinated meteor drops (like 15+ meteors all in a couple of seconds) is that we were able to have a couple people run reflect-based utility builds to counter it. Turns out that nobody wants to drop 15 meteors on a group all at once when they know that most of them will be reflected back. Now we still get hit by 15+ meteors (and the ensuing fall damage bugs), but we have the time to recover from it and do our thing. If this change goes live, we're going to see more meteors than the dang Cretaceous period.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on February 3, 2016 10:32PM1 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.
But if there cloaking the dots won't actually dmg them.
Also why can't nb's just purge like every other class has too.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.
But if there cloaking the dots won't actually dmg them.
Also why can't nb's just purge like every other class has too.
Only the morph shadow cloak stops the DOTs but doesn't remove it.0 -
Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭At least they fixed the fall damage from the people casting this while on the stairs. No more fall damage exploit!NA Server - Kildair0 -
leepalmer95✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.
But if there cloaking the dots won't actually dmg them.
Also why can't nb's just purge like every other class has too.
Only the morph shadow cloak stops the DOTs but doesn't remove it.
Good? Now nb's will have to slot a purge skill like every other class instead of just not even bothering with dots and just purge them without even trying to.
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Current CP : 756+
I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...1 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.
But if there cloaking the dots won't actually dmg them.
Also why can't nb's just purge like every other class has too.
Only the morph shadow cloak stops the DOTs but doesn't remove it.
Good? Now nb's will have to slot a purge skill like every other class instead of just not even bothering with dots and just purge them without even trying to.
Purge only removes like 2 at a time and it's not a cheap skill to use. To remove say 5 or 6 yea draining magicka.0 -
Asherons_Call✭✭✭✭✭
✭It's an ultimate ( and a hard to get one! !) Shouldn't have been able to reflex in the first place2 -
code65536✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Um, just block or dodge it? Reflecting a 200-cost ultimate seemed pretty overboard.Nightfighters ― PC/NA and PC/EU
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Sharee✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I would be fine with this change if
1, a nightblade could no longer use cloak to neutralize incoming meteor
2, a sorcerer could no longer use ball of lightning to neutralize incoming meteor.
If it is meant to always hit, make it always hit. As it is now, only the specific DK method of dealing with it got nerfed, while the rest remained. That seems... odd.4 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭While I like the idea of making ultimates actually effective, this is going to really just encourage more zergs to use it.1 -
Makkir✭✭✭✭✭
✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
meh, not so much. now skills can only be reflected once. so no one is going to counter reflect with reflect.
What you really mean is GoodBye S&B sorcs.
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Decado✭✭✭✭There are already full guild raids synchronising meteor drops on enemy groups which was bad enough then add in the fall damage on top was stupid, now add in they can't be reflected and it's about to become a whole lot worse, if you were throwing a meteor into a group you should run the risk of getting it back in your face,
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Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Asherons_Call wrote: »It's an ultimate ( and a hard to get one! !) Shouldn't have been able to reflex in the first place
Then it should be avoidable, like every other ultimate. It cannot be dodged, outrun, or anything else, reflect is the only way to counter it right now. This change makes it unique in that it's guaranteed to hit, strikes for great damage in an area, AND leaves a DoT, AND CC's! Having it be reflectable was not only really cool, but a fair tradeoff for such a powerful ultimate. Plus it's not like being someone having a reflect up guarantees a successful reflect. You can eat away at their reflect pool with any other targeted ranged attack. So even if you're up against DKs all spamming wings, if you have people firing off something as simple as a bow light attack you can still increase your odds of hitting. This change takes it way too far, I think.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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Ampnode✭✭✭✭And with the new CP revision to putting flame damage with magic damage in the same perk, meteor will now be damn good ultimate.
Bit too good. My DK has suffered enough
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Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »
meh, not so much. now skills can only be reflected once. so no one is going to counter reflect with reflect.
What you really mean is GoodBye S&B sorcs.
That's actually a good thing. It offered little utility other than stance.0 -
aLi3nZ✭✭✭✭Zos listened to the guy crying about his metors being reflected. Not surprising. Now if we could just get a bunch of overload users to complain about overload ultimate being reflected. That would be great.0
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Bossdonut✭✭✭✭✭Damn now I can't kill randoms with it on the dwemer boss in wrothgar anymore.Edited by Bossdonut on February 4, 2016 12:59AM0
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Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I actually like this change. Meteor's being reflected is just dumb, as much as I enjoy reflecting them; it's dumb.--ϟ-- Crows_Descend - Templar - Ebonheart Pact [PS4]&[PC] [EU] --ϟ--
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Soon I'm going magicka on my main for some time. This change actually helped me decide whether use S/B or destro.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭CrowsDescend wrote: »I actually like this change. Meteor's being reflected is just dumb, as much as I enjoy reflecting them; it's dumb.
It's not dumb considering how strong of an ultimate it is. If it's not reflectable, then it should also be dodgeable. If this goes live then you can just hit someone with it, end of story. No getting out of it, only getting out of the DoT component. It's way too strong like this.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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No, all morphs stop DoTs (shadow cloak is the base skill):Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »leepalmer95 wrote: »Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »vamp_emily wrote: »Vampire Nightblade Emily, cloaks away giggling.
@vamp_emily
Yea try cloaking far away when the DOTs kill you now.
But if there cloaking the dots won't actually dmg them.
Also why can't nb's just purge like every other class has too.
Only the morph shadow cloak stops the DOTs but doesn't remove it.
Shadow Cloak: This ability and its morphs will now suppress damage over time effects that are already applied to the caster while the invisibility is active.
The damage over time will remain, but will tick for 0 damage if you are invisible, and will tick for the normal damage if you come out of invisibility.
Also note the plural in "effects"...
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