"Oh, you're an Argonian"

Ashamray · January 2016

Argonian passives are weak. Khajiit passive don't work. Imperials and Altmers are under the bright sun of superiority.
TES is about racism as intended. Hooray!

FlounderOG · January 2016

It would be nice if argonians got a high health regen passive slightly higher than the orc, and maybe a physical resistance passive of a 1-2-3 value like the breton has of spell resist.

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

FlounderOG wrote: »

It would be nice if argonians got a high health regen passive slightly higher than the orc, and maybe a physical resistance passive of a 1-2-3 value like the breton has of spell resist.

health regen sucks orcs have stamina so that makes up for it and isn't there a hardcap on physical resistance?

FlounderOG · January 2016

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

health regen sucks

I disagree.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

isn't there a hardcap on physical resistance?

Probably. Doesn't make it any less useful. Could always tweak some of the mechanics to make it work. Or even switch it to physical attack penetration. (Although that could get messy.)

Jumper45 · January 2016

tsk tsk tsk. Back in my day when Iksars showed up their passives were the bomb. -shakes head- Now all you get is to swim fast in a puddle b/c none of the water in ESO is deeper then 2 feet or its infested with STDs... err i mean piranhas.

Glaiceana · January 2016

I can't believe this actually happens to be honest. That people would instantly be let down by the fact that your characters race is Argonian? I know people are saying the passives suck, but can they really be that bad that they'd get an instant reaction like that?

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · January 2016

Glaiceana wrote: »

I can't believe this actually happens to be honest. That people would instantly be let down by the fact that your characters race is Argonian? I know people are saying the passives suck, but can they really be that bad that they'd get an instant reaction like that?

As stated before if you get 10% more magic or stamina and you have just 30k magic or stamina that's 3k more resources and 300 more damage.

So min/max races will hit harder while being able to hit one more attack then you. Add the min/max races with recovery bonuses and it's crazy how much of a difference it makes.

FlounderOG · January 2016

To be fair Argonians arent attractive to look at for many people.

They are either a "love'm or hate'm" race, and many people would rather look and relate to a human-ish race than a lizard.

I dont play argonians for the same reason I dont play orcs or Kajiit often. Thats just my opinion, and Im aware people like argonians for lore reasons and you cant deny the kajiit and orc passives are on point.

The crap passives, and inhuman look are two big hurdles for the class. Look can not be helped and some people like it as it is (impossible to change because of lore anyways), but the passives can be changed to make the race more enticing to play.

ScarecrowBoat · January 2016

Hey water u argonians doing outside of the kitchen?

Junkogen · January 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

I can't believe this actually happens to be honest. That people would instantly be let down by the fact that your characters race is Argonian? I know people are saying the passives suck, but can they really be that bad that they'd get an instant reaction like that?

As stated before if you get 10% more magic or stamina and you have just 30k magic or stamina that's 3k more resources and 300 more damage.

So min/max races will hit harder while being able to hit one more attack then you. Add the min/max races with recovery bonuses and it's crazy how much of a difference it makes.

#truth

Smokescales · January 2016

FlounderOG wrote: »

It would be nice if argonians got a high health regen passive slightly higher than the orc, and maybe a physical resistance passive of a 1-2-3 value like the breton has of spell resist.

Don't like tank racials for argonians personally, we should get something to fit more towards the guerilla warfare aspect of them and also something that fits with the restoration expertise. Also nords have tank racials, do the ebonheart pact really need 2 tank races, we need a bit more versatility for the faction, even dumner aren't exactly top tier to either magicka or stamina on their racials.

ShadowscaleSithis · January 2016

Jumper45 wrote: »

You mean you dont want to be an awesome shadow scale when bother hood releases? lol

I made my Argonian just to be a Shadow Scale and it's part of my name >> Shadowscale Sithis

Xvorg · January 2016

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO wrote: »

Glaiceana wrote: »

I can't believe this actually happens to be honest. That people would instantly be let down by the fact that your characters race is Argonian? I know people are saying the passives suck, but can they really be that bad that they'd get an instant reaction like that?

As stated before if you get 10% more magic or stamina and you have just 30k magic or stamina that's 3k more resources and 300 more damage.

So min/max races will hit harder while being able to hit one more attack then you. Add the min/max races with recovery bonuses and it's crazy how much of a difference it makes.

Don't forget the passive that works every 45 secs and the one that is pretty useless in zones like Alik'r dessert or Craglorn

xellink · January 2016

Junkogen wrote: »

On this MLK Day, it's important to remember ESO's own struggling minority: Argonians.
I have a dream that one day Argonians will be able to walk hand-in-hand with other races as equals. Racial inequality exists in Tamriel. Let's change it.

Oh no, we've got a talker. Arrest him!

joleda4ub17_ESO · January 2016

In general, Elves are more popular than Argonians, or any other race for that matter, in western culture. The Drow (dark elves from dnd) have a huge cult following. Elves are just viewed as sexy by the population and game developers have wisely milked that cow. Can you imagine the outrage if Elves had worse racial passives than Argonians?

Argonians will never be number one, even with superior racial passives.

Sethro_27 · January 2016

They really need to nerf the cats crit bonus and sneak bonus. The hell like i said Mr. ***-crits-and-never-damits Your a low down cheating son of a gun and you know it too. the mechanics mixed with your passives is op to holy hell and you know it you won't admit to it like a president doesn't admit he's got side ***.

Sethro_27 · January 2016

Sethro_27 wrote: »

They really need to nerf the cats crit bonus and sneak bonus. The hell like i said Mr. ***-crits-and-never-damits Your a low down cheating son of a gun and you know it too. the mechanics mixed with your passives is op to holy hell and you know it you won't admit to it like a president doesn't admit he's got side ***.

I enjoy potion regen as much as you but you get to enjoy it but you still get more bonus to dmg each hit so no matter what youll out damage teh heal like any other race. Cause they dont have a lack of passives. Cause everyone hates a good thing and they will cheat and lie to get there.

RAGUNAnoOne · January 2016

FlounderOG wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

health regen sucks

I disagree.

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

isn't there a hardcap on physical resistance?

Probably. Doesn't make it any less useful. Could always tweak some of the mechanics to make it work. Or even switch it to physical attack penetration. (Although that could get messy.)

if health regen doesn't suck then why does no one I know put CP into it and why do even the tankiest vampires stay intentionally at stage 4? As far as I know the hardcap for resistance is supposed to be low and I read it is like 30 something K resistance. boosting something that has a hardcap is not the way to go in the meta of pushing limits plus penetration directly counters that passive you can't counter anything else (besides orcs speed boost). Also, as of now nord and argonians health boost can be negated by pulsar that is an issue of itself.