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"L2P Or Roll a Nightblade" (PvP)
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dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.2 -
Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »Say didn't you say you where making a nightblade at one time?
Yeah she is lvl 11
I would rather focus on my main and then occasionally my Sorc though 
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✭✭leepalmer95 wrote: »SuraklinPrime wrote: »ShadowDisciple wrote: »crows descend...if you actually put in as much hours into game as you put on this forum maybe by now you would learn to play and counter silly nightblades and WB spammers
Guide on how to counter a teleporting gap closer that gives empower to an 8K insta-DPS or 10K+ 50 cost ulti, please.
Use block.
Run inpenetrable.
Shields, potions and heals.
Decent armour.
Ambush-Ult-fear-spam-dead.
Block isn't going to help you.
Well now you are adding more but block and having more than 16k health should get you through the initial scenario, for fear I find immovable potions or skill can be good or even simply breaking free (although the lag can screw you here but that is not the fault of the class). Then you can counter the spam.
If WB is an issue or some other non-class skill then that is amdifferent conversation.
NB is a good class and in the hands of a skilled player it can be lethal but if countered at the initial burst phase it can melt fast.
The best NBs are the ones who figured out how to win back when the class was buggy as hell and under powered in the first year of the game when anyone but Temps could faceroll them.
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Korah_Eaglecry✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
This is the problem with people. They think theyre the only ones that know how to play the game with any skill and anyone playing another class and doing well must be Playing Easy Mode Flavor of the Month Classes and Builds.
The vast majority of players crying for NB nerfs have never even touched them or taken them into actual difficult situations like playing against other players of equal or better skill.Penniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax4 -
Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭Someone beat me in pvp better go pencil whip them on the forum and get their class nerfed.0 -
Lore_lai✭✭✭✭✭Magicka Templar 4lyf!! Never give up!
Plus I love double reflecting Dark Flares into DK wings huehuehue
Riiiiiiight, because a Mag DK cannot use Rapid Regen/Mutagen spam to leech AP, that *never* happens.Resipsa131 wrote: »
If you think BoL is easier AP than RR spam then I seriously doubt you've seen the zerg surfing, RR spam, leeches in Cyro.
The name of the game is *tag* and any class can do it, regardless of mag or stam.
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.8 -
mdylan2013✭✭✭✭✭ShadowDisciple wrote: »crows descend...if you actually put in as much hours into game as you put on this forum maybe by now you would learn to play and counter silly nightblades and WB spammers
I've seen him play, he's awesome and a respected player on our server.PS4/EU
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PSN - LookoutLuke
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SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.0 -
Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
What happens when NB never gets nerfed and you have to L2P? Will you ever pipe down about it? How long have you been on your little crusade anyway? Long enough to learn counters.0 -
xellink✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
There are more nightblades built correctly for spike damage than DKs, a lot of this spike damage is un-coordinated.
DKs can achieve similar spike damage but they are slightly weaker and less used. It is still the second favourite.
OHKO/2HKO should be in the game but only with coordinated team spikes. Being able to do it solo is quite lame. This is evident in more serious PVP mmos. The nerf bat in GW1 was so fast, u'd get nerfed within 24 hours, slightly delayed in GW2 and almost non-existent in PVP-lite games.0 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭Decayed_Inside wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
What happens when NB never gets nerfed and you have to L2P? Will you ever pipe down about it? How long have you been on your little crusade anyway? Long enough to learn counters.
I already beat at least 70% of nightblades I face. Not because the class is bad but because I can tell they're bad players. They don't heal/don't use any cc etc. When I meet a player who's in my skill lvl there's nothing I can do. I have a friend who I duel with often and he beats me only on his NB, I can beat his DK and Templar... Wonder why?1 -
Decayed_Inside✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »Decayed_Inside wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
What happens when NB never gets nerfed and you have to L2P? Will you ever pipe down about it? How long have you been on your little crusade anyway? Long enough to learn counters.
I already beat at least 70% of nightblades I face. Not because the class is bad but because I can tell they're bad players. They don't heal/don't use any cc etc. When I meet a player who's in my skill lvl there's nothing I can do. I have a friend who I duel with often and he beats me only on his NB, I can beat his DK and Templar... Wonder why?
Because you don't take the time to learn counters. Roll a magika DK and keep him in talons forever while you force pulse. Do anything but QQEdited by Decayed_Inside on January 17, 2016 4:17AM0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.3 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.Edited by SemiD4rkness on January 17, 2016 4:40AM0 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.2 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?1 -
dday3six✭✭✭✭✭
✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?
It's not a fact. It's your opinion based on anecdotal snap shots of your personal play time. The truth is, unless ZOS were to start tracking Cyrodiil Player logins sorted by class and crossed referenced by time played it's impossible for players to actually know the class breakdown in Cyrodiil.
Just because NB's are not OP does not mean other classes cannot be underpowered.Edited by dday3six on January 17, 2016 4:59AM1 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?
It's not a fact. It's your opinion based on anecdotal snap shots of your personal play time. The truth is, unless ZOS were to start tracking Cyrodiil Player logins sorted by class and crossed referenced by time played it's impossible for players to actually know the class breakdown in Cyrodiil.
Just because NB's are not OP does not mean other classes cannot be underpowered.
So you're saying that nightblades are not the most played class in pvp right now by far? Lol I can make a poll, you wanna bet?
You're in huge denial. It's a fact and everyone knows.0 -
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?
It's not a fact. It's your opinion based on anecdotal snap shots of your personal play time. The truth is, unless ZOS were to start tracking Cyrodiil Player logins sorted by class and crossed referenced by time played it's impossible for players to actually know the class breakdown in Cyrodiil.
Just because NB's are not OP does not mean other classes cannot be underpowered.
So you're saying that nightblades are not the most played class in pvp right now by far? Lol I can make a poll, you wanna bet?
You're in huge denial. It's a fact and everyone knows.
Polls don't prove facts. They're highly opinionated. 200 players per Alliance are able to be in one Cyrodiil server. Totaling 600 players all together. Even with extended playing sessions of 8 hours or more. It's unlikely that you'll interact with a more half of them.1 -
SemiD4rkness✭✭✭✭✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?
It's not a fact. It's your opinion based on anecdotal snap shots of your personal play time. The truth is, unless ZOS were to start tracking Cyrodiil Player logins sorted by class and crossed referenced by time played it's impossible for players to actually know the class breakdown in Cyrodiil.
Just because NB's are not OP does not mean other classes cannot be underpowered.
So you're saying that nightblades are not the most played class in pvp right now by far? Lol I can make a poll, you wanna bet?
You're in huge denial. It's a fact and everyone knows.
Polls don't prove facts. They're highly opinionated. 200 players per Alliance are able to be in one Cyrodiil server. Totaling 600 players all together. Even with extended playing sessions of 8 hours or more. It's unlikely that you'll interact with a more half of them.
I repeat, are you denying that Nightblade is the most played class by far atm? (In pvp)0 -
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✭SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »SemiD4rkness wrote: »I really hope they nerf nightblades to the ground. We will see whos gonna have to l2p then.
You'll just go on to complaining endlessly about Stamina DK's. Who are about as strong as NB's currently when built and played correctly.
At least playing a stam DK takes some skill. Also if the fight goes my way he'll stay and fight til he dies not try to escape a 1v1 like a ***.
So which is it? If they take no skill then they should be easily rofl-stomping you. If they have to run when losing, that implies they're not as tough as you profess, since they are losing enough that you'll whine about their escape capabilities.
I have a sneaking suspicion likely just not as good at PVP as you'd like to be, and as a coping mechanism you band-wagon complain.
Ok I get it you play a nightblade and you don't want your class to be nerfed.
Take a look at your passives and also the amount of buffs/debuffs almost all of your abilities have. Now add cloak, best escape tool in the game, I know sometimes it's easy to counter but it still is the best escape in the game. No excuses sir and you'll see im right when in the next update NBs gets nerfed to the ground.
I play a Stamina NB, Magicka and Stamina DK, Magicka Sorc, and Magicka Templar. I started with a Stamblade because I always roll the rogue/assassin/ninja archtype in RPG's first, and often prefer weapon based/melee classes over magic ones. However I also like to diversify, and to be able to full multiple rolls.
I don't want Nightblade nerfed into the ground because that would be the beginning of a long, and unwarranted cycle of nerfing everything else. As well as the best way to ensure that classes don't have their issues actually addressed.
Nightblades aren't going to be nerfed into the ground, and even if they were it wouldn't fix your issue. I'm willing to wager this is one of the first major games you focused on PVP. Thus the majority of your issues stem from a lack of the mindset needed for PVP gaming.
Well DKs got nerfed to the ground according to a lot of people and look at them now without any direct buffs they're the strongest 1v1 class, maybe it's not a bad thing
And no, the first game I focused on pvp was an MMO called Dofus, I actually played the rogue/assasin class that happened to be the only one that had invisibility, and happened to have the only invis counter in the game (out of 12 classes). They were definetly op for a long time but I never saw it because it was my favorite class. I was on denial just like you are being now. Class got nerfed and I went from winning 9 out of 10 fights to win half my fights. So ive been there buddy but you'll get over it just like I did.
I have 4 other builds to play, why would I need to get over anything. I barely PVP on my NB anymore anyway.
This is all about making you feel good about yourself. You tote a 70% win ratio against NB's yet they are OP because you can't figure out how to beat your friend, who can't figure out how to beat you on their Templar or DK. That's the sum of it.
You didn't tell me whats the reason behind the fact that Nightblades represent the vast majority of pvps population right now.
Is it so hard to just say the obvious: Nightblades are OP. At least do the typical thing and say yes but don't nerf them buff the other classes.... Do you really think that Nightblade (specially stamina) is equally powerfull as a mag dk, stam templar or stam sorc? Are you blind?
It's not a fact. It's your opinion based on anecdotal snap shots of your personal play time. The truth is, unless ZOS were to start tracking Cyrodiil Player logins sorted by class and crossed referenced by time played it's impossible for players to actually know the class breakdown in Cyrodiil.
Just because NB's are not OP does not mean other classes cannot be underpowered.
So you're saying that nightblades are not the most played class in pvp right now by far? Lol I can make a poll, you wanna bet?
You're in huge denial. It's a fact and everyone knows.
Polls don't prove facts. They're highly opinionated. 200 players per Alliance are able to be in one Cyrodiil server. Totaling 600 players all together. Even with extended playing sessions of 8 hours or more. It's unlikely that you'll interact with a more half of them.
I repeat, are you denying that Nightblade is the most played class by far atm? (In pvp)
I'm telling you that it cannot be said with certainty without ZOS collecting the metrics. You see a player riding off in the distance. Further out than the alliance shields even show up. How can you tell what class that player is. You only know what class a player is if they use class specfic abilities.
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Ampnode✭✭✭✭SuraklinPrime wrote: »ShadowDisciple wrote: »crows descend...if you actually put in as much hours into game as you put on this forum maybe by now you would learn to play and counter silly nightblades and WB spammers
Guide on how to counter a teleporting gap closer that gives empower to an 8K insta-DPS or 10K+ 50 cost ulti, please.
Use block.
Run inpenetrable.
Shields, potions and heals.
Decent armour.
Use block? Yeah, lemme just drain my stam pool out blocking an ability that's insta-cast and near impossible to see coming because of animation canceling.
Run impen? I run full impen with 10% into crit resist and still receive 6-8K surprise attacks.
Shields, potions, and heals? I'm a stam DK, so I have no shields. I can only use a pot every 45 seconds. My class only comes with a heal that heals for 2.8K at 14% health left, and my other means of healing is HoT.
Decent armor? Not sure what that means. Are you implying I should wear heavy armor? The type of armor that gives no sustain for resource pools and barely makes a difference because of stacked weapon/critical damage?
2/10 guide for countering a NB. Go back and revise this, please.PC NA - CP640+
Characters:
Amp - Magicka Nightblade
Amp - Magicka Sorcerer
Amp - Magicka Templar
Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Templar
Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
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J2JMC✭✭✭✭✭This is unfortunately the case with almost every MMO these days.
The whole combat mechanics of these games seem to soley focus on stopping caster / magic damage. And ignoring physical/melee. Such as interupts, silences, etc, etc.
Not only this, but typically the physical-based damage dealers have a much easier time actually getting off their damage, which even hits for as much, if not higher than casted abilities.
This backwards trend has been like this for a few years in games now. I quite like having to work to get my kb's, etc. But it's always frustrating to see phys-based, or melee DD classes always seem to have to put in a fraction of the work for the same, or better results.
Edit: I'm not really singling out ESO here, btw. I mean, it applies to this too, but I meant in general.
Anyone who believes video games favor melee over ranged classes must only play cyrodiil pvp AND never fight sorcerers while playing said pvp. Outside of that specific scenario, any other part of this game favors ranged magicka classes. The perfect example being vMA.Knee Jerk, L2P, Obtuse, Casual, Entitled, All The Best, unnecessary mention of CoD
Battle leveling for pve content defeats the idea of progression. Remove CP
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✭There is no point on crying for nerfs so close to the patch notes. There are obvious incoming changes for cloak..Edited by SanTii.92 on January 17, 2016 6:27AMWhen the snows fall and the white winds blow,
the lone wolf dies, but the pack survives.
Arg | Pc Na | Factionless Mag Warden.0 -
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✭✭CamoHunter+Focused Aim+bar swap+Teleport Strike+ Surprise Attack+Bash+Light Attack+Cloack+Surprise attack+Mass Hysteria+Surprise Attack.
Looks like a bit more buttons are involved. But it isn't really pleasant to be on a recieving end.
And yeah, WB spam is getting old.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
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✭Imagine what this forum looks like when they add the Arena. Rift 2.0, never ending whining, monthy balance patches, forum is just another battleground for trolling and griefing. Nightblade is DPS class, so we should remove DPS from the trinity right? All you need to dodge roll away from it or block.Edited by Sausage on January 17, 2016 6:43AM0 -
Ampnode✭✭✭✭There is no point on crying for nerfs so close to the patch notes. There are obvious incoming changes for cloak..
It's not cloak that's the issue. It's their damage output, which surpasses any other class by almost double without any effort.PC NA - CP640+
Characters:
Amp - Magicka Nightblade
Amp - Magicka Sorcerer
Amp - Magicka Templar
Amp - Stamina Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Templar
Amp - Magicka Dragonknight
Amp - Stamina Sorcerer
Amp - Stamina Nightblade0
