Ugh, what a nauseating thread full of of elitists.

First time I ran that dungeon I got one-shotted by that boss too. And I was supposed to be the tank. Because that's what being new to a dungeon will do to you.

Instead of ripping these people apart while you stroke yourselves, how about taking a step back and realize that not everyone can be as awesome as you, especially if they're new. And I would guess they were, since two of them weren't vet level.

This is why I always PUG. Because I don't mind failing or spending a while in a dungeon if it means some other people can learn something and feel good about themselves, instead of seeing their efforts ridiculed on youtube and the forums.

People get one-shotted in dungeons, it happens. Even elite groups have deaths. The first guy that died did not get one-shotted, so that one is on you OP. You could have also been using Healing Ward and prevented either of the other deaths, which I will touch on in points 4 and 5 below.

But there are multiple issues in this video that are a microcosm of the issues with group finder and the uneducated players you find there:

1. Two of the guys were just spamming the same skills while the other just seemed to stand there most of the fight. Spamming is an epidemic in this game and needs to remedied so players are required to learn how to play.

2. No one tried to revive anyone, including the OP. People die in dungeons, it happens, but not reviving is a sign of either players being selfish and not willing to use their soul gems or unprepared by not having soul gems.

3. No one but the OP apparently knows how to block.

4. The OP is there to heal, but spends more time spamming shards and trying to DPS than healing/supporting. This is also a pet peeve of mine. If you are a healer, just heal and leave the DPS up to the DPS. Using healing ward instead of spamming shards could have potentially prevented those one-shots.

5. The OP, like many others in dungeons, is unwilling to take any responsibility for what happened and believes they played it perfectly. First, as mentioned above, you could have used more support skills and left the DPS up to the DPS. Healing ward would have helped more than your spam shards. Second, you used your ultimate poorly by just throwing up a barrier at the beginning of the fight. In that case, you should have thrown up a Solar Prison to help with the adds and provide mitigation and built up a barrier for when you absolutely needed it.

I new to healing but thought you threw shards when requested, dps'ed when it was safe for the grp and concentrated on healing.


But a bad grp is a bad grp..

Miszou wrote: »

Ugh, what a nauseating thread full of of elitists.

First time I ran that dungeon I got one-shotted by that boss too. And I was supposed to be the tank. Because that's what being new to a dungeon will do to you.

Instead of ripping these people apart while you stroke yourselves, how about taking a step back and realize that not everyone can be as awesome as you, especially if they're new. And I would guess they were, since two of them weren't vet level.

This is why I always PUG. Because I don't mind failing or spending a while in a dungeon if it means some other people can learn something and feel good about themselves, instead of seeing their efforts ridiculed on youtube and the forums.

This!

I like to see people with this attitude in game, makes doing pledges sooooo much more enjoyable.

On a sidenote: running with guildies (if you are in a guild with nice people ofc) can have the same outcome.

Before you go insulting those guys you were grouped with, you might want to evaluate your own skills. You were so busy spamming shards and trying to DPS that you let your team mates die.

Edit: To add, it is obvious that you are trying to showcase yourself while both insulting the players you were grouped with as well as ridicule the grouping tool. The grouping tool, while not perfect, is working as intended. I suggest you change your role to DPS, as the players you were grouped with could just as easily been posting a video badmouthing their 'healer' that let them die because he was too busy doing crappy dps.

Sorry but I didn't see anyone mention Block... they were one shot by a move that can and will one shot a lower life dps if they don't block. No healing through that. No one blocked his move. You could see the boss winding up for a good 2 seconds before they were killed. To me it looks like you were just playing with people who haven't seen that boss many times. Maybe new players?

That's not very nice, naming and shaming them.

They are proberly new to eso. You should be giving them advice as you are the more experienced player.

If you spent half as much time healing your group mates as you did spamming shards and resto staff heavy attacks, they would not have died.

Justice31st wrote: »

I wanted to post evidence on why the group finder is unbalanced. That is why I uploaded this video.

I don't believe this to be the case. I think you posted this video as an ego-boosting exercise since you killed a boss by yourself after letting your 3 groupmates die.

Justice31st wrote: »

As a healer, this is what my typical PS4 group finder groups look like while trying to complete the undaunted dallies. Can we please get those group finder buffs you guys promised on the eso live stream a couple months back? FFS... @ZOS_RichLambert @ZOS_GinaBruno

Edit: they all 3 were one shotted by the bosses mechanics... This video has to due about the current state of unbalanced dungeons and the ground finder made for all levels. For example, look at his full health at 0:47 then watch the boss 1 shot him. I am in light armor and was able to solo tank, dps, and heal the boss with only using a healer spec.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blbAXPheAxI

I have no sympathy for a healer, who's is so careless about their group, they go into full dps mode.. FOH

Erdmanski wrote: »

People get one-shotted in dungeons, it happens. Even elite groups have deaths. The first guy that died did not get one-shotted, so that one is on you OP. You could have also been using Healing Ward and prevented either of the other deaths, which I will touch on in points 4 and 5 below.

But there are multiple issues in this video that are a microcosm of the issues with group finder and the uneducated players you find there:

1. Two of the guys were just spamming the same skills while the other just seemed to stand there most of the fight. Spamming is an epidemic in this game and needs to remedied so players are required to learn how to play.

2. No one tried to revive anyone, including the OP. People die in dungeons, it happens, but not reviving is a sign of either players being selfish and not willing to use their soul gems or unprepared by not having soul gems.

3. No one but the OP apparently knows how to block.

4. The OP is there to heal, but spends more time spamming shards and trying to DPS than healing/supporting. This is also a pet peeve of mine. If you are a healer, just heal and leave the DPS up to the DPS. Using healing ward instead of spamming shards could have potentially prevented those one-shots.

5. The OP, like many others in dungeons, is unwilling to take any responsibility for what happened and believes they played it perfectly. First, as mentioned above, you could have used more support skills and left the DPS up to the DPS. Healing ward would have helped more than your spam shards. Second, you used your ultimate poorly by just throwing up a barrier at the beginning of the fight. In that case, you should have thrown up a Solar Prison to help with the adds and provide mitigation and built up a barrier for when you absolutely needed it.

THIS EXACTLY.

except, if your in a good group, it really helps to DPS and heal

hammayolettuce wrote: »

the guy using cleave .. LOLOLOL .. i had to replay it once more. ... people actually use that past the first 10min of ESO?

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Wait.....I still use it; I have it on my bar now as I type. Whats wrong with it? Lol

MrDerrikk wrote: »

I saw it was this boss and knew exactly what this post was about. The heavy attack the boss does can easily 1-shot my VR16 almost min-maxed DD if it isn't blocked. With a block on this obvious charge attack, your health is unlikely to go below 60% in my experience, plus it stuns the boss for 1 sec. With people who know this it isn't hard, so it's just obvious that you were in a group that hadn't done this particular boss before. I don't see why you're blaming the system for something that's simply inexperience.

BTW, you should probably have been running more than just Healing Springs; yes, it's an awesome skill, but only really shines over stacking HoT's in specific circumstances (Fungal Grotto last boss, CoA Fire Maw etc). In this circumstance you were moving around and being distracted too much to take full advantage of Healing Springs.

If you could write up your healer build, it would be appreciated. Are you talking bout rapid regeneration?

Zerok wrote: »

First of all, tanks are unnecessary in all normal dungeons (except normal ICP and WGT) as long as at least two of the DPS have good DPS and the healer focuses on healing. You can even do it with 3 people if one of your DPS has amazing DPS.

I watched the video. Clearly you did not do your job initially by letting the group leader die. He was not one-shotted, his HP gradually reached 0.

Now yes, the two other players who were one-shotted were obviously not blocking or dodge rolling when the hit came. This is probably a lack of experience, but it can also be that they did not have enough HP (lack of food buff is the prime suspect). Though, you cannot confirm that on PS4 (on PC you can).

Also, when playing without a tank, it is the DPS job to revive others. Usually, the DPS with aggro will run as far as possible from the dead party member while the non-aggroed DPS revive the fallen member. Again, this seems to indicate these players were just inexperienced.

As an experienced player, it was your job to brief them on basic dungeon strategies, especially without a tank to grab aggro.

I re watched the video. If you look at the time stamp Tico went from 90+% hp to 0% in less than a second. It might as well have been called a one shot lol...

To everyone else that is claiming they would of used this or did this differently. That is easy for you to say because you were not in the similar situation. Of course looking back at the video, I would of put on purifying ritual+rapid regeneration, and used blessing of protection etc.; things I use in veteran dungeons if I knew that this was going to be the outcome. But this was a normal freakin dungeon, and lower levels should not take this much damage, that is why ZOS talked on there ESO stream on adding the damage mitigation buffs and DPS buffs for situations such as this. This video was to show and not only tell ZOS that these buffs are depserately needed ASAP to help new players. Take care.