RadioheadSh0t wrote: »

I agree with the sentiment and almost every point you made, but you could also make a similar one for how certain things used to be very bad, such as...

Remember when there was permastacking batswarms?
Remember when DKs were easy mode?
Remember when almost every NB ability was bugged?

Etc.

Ugh, vamps were silly back then and NB was stillborn.

I don't care for multiple opinions from the OP, but the change in dodge roll and block is silly.

Block should be used regularly by everyone without such a large penalty. If they broke blocking through CP, the solution isn't to make blocking unusable. It should be a core mechanic in combat. Unless we want combat to just be skill rotations.

PrinceBoru wrote: »

wow is all i can say.
what a list!
it looks to me as if you need other things in life to worry about.
if i had that many complaints about anything i'd be long gone.
yeah haha the irony and pepperidge farm and all that...
but seriously, i couldn't read all those let alone remember all those.
if you want to lesson your load, ease your weary life, just quit playing.

Oh, it's not like I recite that to myself at night, it's just a bunch of the stupid changes that I remembered in 5 min when I was bored at work. I can only assume you haven't been around since launch? Because having played through each iteration of the game, all of these changes just jump out at me like night and day whether I try to think about them or not.

The only things keeping me here are people I know in the game + the fact that there IS NO COMPARABLE ALTERNATIVE to ESO for mass scale PvP. BDO comes out soon, but it's a Korean grindhouse with a lot of restrictions on it's PvP system. CU is the obvious choice, but that wont be out for at least another year, and Crowfall will probably be even longer.

The ultimate point of 'complaint' threads like this is to inform ppl, and hopefully the devs, about what poorly thought out and stupid changes have harmed their game or if nothing else, at least serve as a testament to the potential that this game had.

Force-Siphon wrote: »

ESO lag is gonna get fixed when CU comes out and the game is a wasteland on pc

I'm in Alpha on CU and Crowfall.....is there anything else out there that I'm unaware of that may be of some interest? I've got SWtoR, GW2, TSW, Skyforge, WildStar, StarCraft, and a few FPS's (Battlefront and COD BO3).

Remember when we could not use maneuvers on horses?

Remember when weapon swapping took 5seconds during lag?

Remember when mounts would get stuck on every lil rock?

Remember when whip would go through dodge roll and reveal nbs cloaking?

Remember when caltrops used to give immunity to siege damage?

Remember when stam players or sorcs using bolt escapes could do laps forever all across Cyrodiil?

Remember when doors were lot less responsive during lag situations?

Remember when all your abilities would be grayed out (shift bug)?

Remember when healers could not mount for 5-10mins straight after a battle?

Remember when people used to spam meteors repeatidly and create massive lag battles on flags for 15mins?

Remember when you would die from LA + Poison Injection + 2 Snipes + Camo Hunter all procing at once?

Remember when your framerates would drop to 2 and stay stuck there until you relogged?

Remember when fear used to make you fall through the world?

Remember when people could get over your faction gate and spawn camp you?

Remember when people could jump across the temple gates and ninja scrolls?

Remember when people used to spam wall of elements and assume they were gud?

Remember when DKs had perma bats without emp?

Remember when sorcs could drop a negate after 2streaks without emp?

Remember when we could stack all 3 morphs of barrier on top of each other?

Remember when DKs could do 36k destro heavy attacks?

Remember when sorcs would spam unstable familiar explosion because it was dealing ridiculous amount of damage?

Remember when anybody could tank in light armor?

Remember when casting Clouding Swarm in quick succession could cause you to be permanently invisible to other players?

Remember when the sounds would go off after a huge battle?

Remember when you could use two different mundus stones?

Remember when you could stack more than 100% damage mitigation?

Remember when the healing debuff from meatbags would stack with other abilities healing debuffs?

Remember when you could not swap weapons while dodge rolling?

Remember when people would remember what Zenimax fixed?

frozywozy wrote: »

Remember when we could not use maneuvers on horses?

Remember when weapon swapping took 5seconds during lag?
They took the fix to this too far later on by adding a GCD to wep swap, making it less responsive than before.
Remember when mounts would get stuck on every lil rock?

Remember when whip would go through dodge roll and reveal nbs cloaking?

Remember when caltrops used to give immunity to siege damage?
I remember how it took them over 1 month to fix this, and caused heaps of PvP'rs to quit the game.
Remember when stam players or sorcs using bolt escapes could do laps forever all across Cyrodiil?
I remember how the 'fix' to this doesn't address the root problem, which is the removal of soft caps.
Remember when doors were lot less responsive during lag situations?

Remember when all your abilities would be grayed out (shift bug)?

Remember when healers could not mount for 5-10mins straight after a battle?
Remember how that bug existed for 2 whole years, since the earliest beta builds?
Remember when people used to spam meteors repeatidly and create massive lag battles on flags for 15mins?

Remember when you would die from LA + Poison Injection + 2 Snipes + Camo Hunter all procing at once?
I remember how instagibbing w/ camo hunter is still a thing.
Remember when your framerates would drop to 2 and stay stuck there until you relogged?

Remember when fear used to make you fall through the world?
I remember when that happened to me 2 weeks ago in IC, if that's what you mean.
Remember when people could get over your faction gate and spawn camp you?

Remember when people could jump across the temple gates and ninja scrolls?

Remember when people used to spam wall of elements and assume they were gud?
Remember when people used to spam steel tornado and think they were good? Oh wait.
Remember when DKs had perma bats without emp?

Remember when sorcs could drop a negate after 2streaks without emp?

Remember when we could stack all 3 morphs of barrier on top of each other?

Remember when DKs could do 36k destro heavy attacks?
I remember how that made it to live and wasn't fixed for a long time
Remember when sorcs would spam unstable familiar explosion because it was dealing ridiculous amount of damage?
Remember how that skill was 'temp fixed' by nerffing it to the ground, that was a year ago.
Remember when anybody could tank in light armor?

Remember when casting Clouding Swarm in quick succession could cause you to be permanently invisible to other players?

Remember when the sounds would go off after a huge battle?
I also remember how the lag would stop and my FPS would go back to normal, if it's a choice between then and now, I'll take the no sound.
Remember when you could use two different mundus stones?
Remember how it was actually more than just 2 and how it was in the game sooooo long it basically became the meta for competitive dueling, ect?
Remember when you could stack more than 100% damage mitigation?

Remember when the healing debuff from meatbags would stack with other abilities healing debuffs?

Remember when you could not swap weapons while dodge rolling?
I remember how I could actually dodge roll as something other than a stam build, if that's what you mean.
Remember when people would remember what Zenimax fixed?
Yeah, remember how people used to have expectations that ZOS would fix game breaking issues in a swift timely matter? There's a reason that time is in the past.

Please hold while I transfer any further questions to, Remember the Lag?

Teargrants wrote: »

When we used to have more than 1 pop locked server in prime time?

Haderus and Trueflame gets poplock at primetime quite often. I even had someone from GoS telling me last thursday that Haderus Q was higher than Azura Star.

When you could still use block and dodge roll without being a sustain stam build?

Remember the big triangle with every corner being Damage <=> Survivability <=> Sustain ? If you have the sustain, you should be penalize in damage and survivability. If you have the damage, you should be penalized in Sustain and Survivability. Not sure how you expect to dodge roll while also being able to deal massive damage. That should never be the case.

When the solution to Cyrodiil lag was more than "we're decreasing the pop cap for the Nth time"?

This is actually a great temporary solution and if they could only close Axe, I'm pretty sure that Trueflame or Haderus would become as competitive as Azura Star and major guilds would start moving over there while making the performances overall in all campaigns much more acceptable. When all 3 factions are at 3bars, it is amazing in Cyrodiil.

When we used to not have a horribly stam biased CP system?

Stamina classes have the best sustain dps, that's for sure. But Magicka classes have definitely the highest burst. Unless you think that 14k prox det, 12k dawnbreaking of smithing, 6k curse, 4k streak and 19k crystal frags all landing at once is legit. Wot?

When Wrecking Blow used to be interruptible?

So what you're saying is that Wrecking blow should be interruptable on top of the fact that you can dodge roll out of it, fear it, walk through it, block it, cloak it, stun it while surprise attack deals the same damage, is instant cast, set off balance from stealth and applies major fracture? lol

Oh yeah and 50% of the reasons you gave me regarding the fixes I brought are that you think it took too much time to fix them. Do you know how much time it took for Blizzard to fix the gap closer for the Warrior charge? 3years. How much time it took to fix the combat bug? 4years.

Just relax dude, everything is gonna be allright.

frozywozy wrote: »

Remember when we could not use maneuvers on horses?

Remember when weapon swapping took 5seconds during lag?

Remember when mounts would get stuck on every lil rock?

Remember when whip would go through dodge roll and reveal nbs cloaking?

Remember when caltrops used to give immunity to siege damage?

Remember when stam players or sorcs using bolt escapes could do laps forever all across Cyrodiil?

Remember when doors were lot less responsive during lag situations?

Remember when all your abilities would be grayed out (shift bug)?

Remember when healers could not mount for 5-10mins straight after a battle?

Remember when people used to spam meteors repeatidly and create massive lag battles on flags for 15mins?

Remember when you would die from LA + Poison Injection + 2 Snipes + Camo Hunter all procing at once?

Remember when your framerates would drop to 2 and stay stuck there until you relogged?

Remember when fear used to make you fall through the world?

Remember when people could get over your faction gate and spawn camp you?

Remember when people could jump across the temple gates and ninja scrolls?

Remember when people used to spam wall of elements and assume they were gud?

Remember when DKs had perma bats without emp?

Remember when sorcs could drop a negate after 2streaks without emp?

Remember when we could stack all 3 morphs of barrier on top of each other?

Remember when DKs could do 36k destro heavy attacks?

Remember when sorcs would spam unstable familiar explosion because it was dealing ridiculous amount of damage?

Remember when anybody could tank in light armor?

Remember when casting Clouding Swarm in quick succession could cause you to be permanently invisible to other players?

Remember when the sounds would go off after a huge battle?

Remember when you could use two different mundus stones?

Remember when you could stack more than 100% damage mitigation?

Remember when the healing debuff from meatbags would stack with other abilities healing debuffs?

Remember when you could not swap weapons while dodge rolling?

Remember when people would remember what Zenimax fixed?

Remember how unacceptably long it took to fix the most simple things. But a trial giving to much XP got hotfixed withing a hour. Purge / Stacking healdebuffs bug took months to fix, and in the end they ended up beeing one of the better mechanics the game provided against ballgroups.

Even bugs and unintended mechanics ended up balancing PvP better then the devs, now that says something.

Also..



combined with:

every time i see a video of people fighting under the bridge, i wonder why not many vidoes made with RHCP's 'under the bridge' as soundtrack ^^

OdinForge wrote: »

ZOS doesn't care about PvP, this is the only possible reason.

WRX wrote: »

Its all the CC issues.

Catering2Casuals

This is the future of ESO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAVKrzJCA_s

Xsorus wrote: »

How about this

Remember ESO 1.5

When the only change really needed was no AOE caps

and maybe a few tweaks to the stam skill lines, stam was seriously tricky to play then but pretty rewarding too

Turtl3Lov3 wrote: »

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OdinForge wrote: »

ZOS doesn't care about PvP, this is the only possible reason.

This made me chuckle, damn you Turtl3.