It's very difficult to consistently experience the raids & DSA

Sallington · December 2015

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

Wait... Like just the rewards will be v16? They aren't scaling the Trials themselves?

Cuyler · December 2015

ZOS_JasonLeavey wrote: »

@R3DTHR3AT: Why doesn’t ZOS remake loot from AA & HRC, make it more useful, change their bonuses etc.? Do you not want to scale them to VR16?
It’s not as simple as just bumping up the item power in these trials. The trials themselves would have to either scale or be re-tuned to max level, either of which is not a trivial amount of work. We’ve chosen to work on a new trial instead.

Unfortunately this is all we get atm until the next trial:

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

ZOS doesn't want to give us rewards for playing the game. Look at the entirety of the questing/dungeon experience. There are simply no rewards in any of it except 1% of latest content.

ZOS_JasonLeavey wrote: »

It’s not as simple as just bumping up the item power in these trials.

This statement seems like such a cop-out to me because there are so many other options to making the trial rewards interesting again. Like how hard could it be to just add some of the new gear to the loot tables? Isn't it just changing an item code in a line of code somewhere? It's all a cash grab so people will purchase the new dlc.

ZOS_JasonLeavey wrote: »

We’ve chosen to work on a new trial instead.

Xellos77 · December 2015

Nikkiy wrote: »

Xellos77 wrote: »

Here? My first experience in DSA our tank goes to eat dinner. Ten or fifteen minutes, right? Nope. An hour and fifteen later. Of course by that time we tried to get a replacement without success, and disbanded. We were doing perfectly fine too. There's just little commitment in ESO like in other MMOs. I daresay it's the casual man's MMO.

Yes, blame the game for the players you choose to run with!! -.-

You are missing the point here. I'm pointing out a handicap ESO suffers from in general. The elements for community building are largely missing. There's no reason to run dungeons beyond a couple of dailies. No token system. No raids. No reason to really group up for anything besides occasional world boss in Orsinium. Questing alone is faster, "normal" "public dungeons" or "world bosses" are highly soloable, and the community of world chat (at least on PS4/NA) consists mainly of people blaring bad rap music into their mics or 40-year-olds talking inappropriately to 8-year-olds.

I digress, though. Sir, you are absolutely right.

Addendum: Plus, get rid of multi-guild membership. It dilutes the community further.

Alcast · December 2015

Sallington wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

Wait... Like just the rewards will be v16? They aren't scaling the Trials themselves?

Yep, only rewards. They cannot scale the trials because they would have to start from scratch as it seems they cannot simply increase the levels because they did all the scaling`/coding or w/e it is called MANUALLY.

So they just let it like it is bc they like to *** us

AlnilamE · December 2015

Xellos77 wrote: »

Addendum: Plus, get rid of multi-guild membership. It dilutes the community further.

Sorry, but that's something I like about the game. I can have different guilds for different aspects of the game (Social/PvP/Raiding/Trade) without having to try and find one guild that will not fill all those aspects in a satisfactory manner.

Xellos77 · December 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

Xellos77 wrote: »

Addendum: Plus, get rid of multi-guild membership. It dilutes the community further.

Sorry, but that's something I like about the game. I can have different guilds for different aspects of the game (Social/PvP/Raiding/Trade) without having to try and find one guild that will not fill all those aspects in a satisfactory manner.

In some capacity it serves it's purpose. I still think it's unneeded and propagates "guild hopping". Not only that, but trying to get some dedication and commitment from people spread out among different guilds is difficult. Sometimes even managing a simple "dungeon night" is impossible. Now, I know people who use the format to do exactly what you're talking about; one guild for PvP, one for trading, etc. I think that more often, however, it's not like that for many. Only an observation, but my two cents.

Cuyler · December 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

Xellos77 wrote: »

Addendum: Plus, get rid of multi-guild membership. It dilutes the community further.

Sorry, but that's something I like about the game. I can have different guilds for different aspects of the game (Social/PvP/Raiding/Trade) without having to try and find one guild that will not fill all those aspects in a satisfactory manner.

The underlying issue here is not the 5 guild system, it's that this game doesn't attract committed traditional MMO group players. It attracts 95% casual solo skyrim type players.

With that said, I agree. It's possible to have five guilds but still have one take priority over the others if you so choose. If your guild is not fostering a community that promotes AND retains committed players it's an issue with guild leadership.

Alcast · December 2015

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

Sallington · December 2015

Alcast wrote: »

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

They've got a lot of half-baked DLC and related mounts to create for the cash store man. You can't go around expecting them to just make some type of relevant end-game content. Let alone have said content drop sought after gear.

Jura23 · December 2015

Sallington wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

Wait... Like just the rewards will be v16? They aren't scaling the Trials themselves?

Of course not. They don't want non-DLC content to be true endgame. Simple as that.

Sallington · December 2015

Jura23 wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

Wait... Like just the rewards will be v16? They aren't scaling the Trials themselves?

Of course not. They don't want non-DLC content to be true endgame. Simple as that.

Such is the problem with F2P MMOs.

Alcast · December 2015

Jura23 wrote: »

Sallington wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

ZOS said that they will increase the Weekly rewards from those trials to v16 in the upcomig patch. Tho good luck getting a spot in there

Leaderboards will consist of 2 guilds each on NA/EU servers because everyone has like 6+ v16 chars.

Wait... Like just the rewards will be v16? They aren't scaling the Trials themselves?

Of course not. They don't want non-DLC content to be true endgame. Simple as that.

What they do not realize is that they loose more costumers doing stuff like that rather than gaining some.

Cuyler · December 2015

Alcast wrote: »

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

Yuup, I was there for the COR meeting right before Wrothgar released (w/ wipe on trash)....what was really odd was Rich said ZOS was "painfully aware" of the decline in trials participation, yet here we are months later with no changes.....they really need to expand personnel. From what I can see the sales from Wrothgar alone would support a few new devs to speed things up.

Alcast · December 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

Yuup, I was there for the COR meeting right before Wrothgar released (w/ wipe on trash)....what was really odd was Rich said ZOS was "painfully aware" of the decline in trials participation, yet here we are months later with no changes.....they really need to expand personnel. From what I can see the sales from Wrothgar alone would support a few new devs to speed things up.

Yep, they know it but just sooooooo slow......I rly think they have a very small "unexperienced" team working on bugs and old stuff etc...

code65536 · December 2015

Xellos77 wrote: »

dimensional wrote: »

Xellos77 wrote: »

Here? My first experience in DSA our tank goes to eat dinner. Ten or fifteen minutes, right? Nope. An hour and fifteen later. Of course by that time we tried to get a replacement without success, and disbanded. We were doing perfectly fine too. There's just little commitment in ESO like in other MMOs. I daresay it's the casual man's MMO.

To be fair though that sounds like the fault of your tank and not ZOS or ESO. That being said I do agree group content and grouping experience itself could be improved.

Of course I know it's not ZOS' fault here. My point was that the community at large is far more scattered and flighty than in every other MMO I've ever played. When there's a guild of over 200 people, for example, and only ~3% of them are ever in chat, a measly four people cannot commit to a "dungeon night", and Trials are a pipe dream, it says something about the player base. It's fickle and non-committed. Casual. There's nothing wrong with that, but this game should have been marketed as a hybrid MMO, not a straight MMO. Too many elements are missing for it to be a true-blue MMO.

Or it could be that you're on console. The console crowd, I think, is generally more casual.

On PC, I have no problems getting groups to do daily pledges on multiple characters. I ran VDSA five times last week with different groups because it was the weekly. One guild that I'm in--which is not exclusive and recruits people from general zone chat--does trials every week.

You want a more serious player base, yet you're playing on a platform that is inherently much more casual.

Cuyler · December 2015

Alcast wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

Yuup, I was there for the COR meeting right before Wrothgar released (w/ wipe on trash)....what was really odd was Rich said ZOS was "painfully aware" of the decline in trials participation, yet here we are months later with no changes.....they really need to expand personnel. From what I can see the sales from Wrothgar alone would support a few new devs to speed things up.

Yep, they know it but just sooooooo slow......I rly think they have a very small "unexperienced" team working on bugs and old stuff etc...

The management operates like it posts negative revenues every quarter. It's not like they're broke lol idk maybe ZOS has a gambling problem? giving away $1mil to possibly gain a few new box sales vs. investing in the development team.....maybe I can do some volunteer work over there LOL

Alcast · December 2015

Cuyler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

Cuyler wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

@Cuyler

There were meetings with ZOS about PvE. And we told them that they have to improve the looting tables. We told them the ONLY reason nobody does trials is because there is NOTHING to get from in there. They were not aware that people would go in there if v16 loot existed for example. They said they will work on those things, but guess what, it will take them 1year+ to prolly "make improvements"...they are just so f....slow

Yuup, I was there for the COR meeting right before Wrothgar released (w/ wipe on trash)....what was really odd was Rich said ZOS was "painfully aware" of the decline in trials participation, yet here we are months later with no changes.....they really need to expand personnel. From what I can see the sales from Wrothgar alone would support a few new devs to speed things up.

Yep, they know it but just sooooooo slow......I rly think they have a very small "unexperienced" team working on bugs and old stuff etc...

The management operates like it posts negative revenues every quarter. It's not like they're broke lol idk maybe ZOS has a gambling problem? giving away $1mil to possibly gain a few new box sales vs. investing in the development team.....maybe I can do some volunteer work over there LOL

xD

HeathenDeacon · December 2015

Shadowstep2003 wrote: »

V16 PS4 NA

This post is mostly towards the devs in hopes that they may offer some feedback. I imagine any developer who puts in the time to create something they are proud of would want to see their end product being experienced by as many people as possible

I've only experienced Dragonstar Arena a couple of times and I really enjoyed it. As for the raids (I think they are 12 man?) I have yet to experience a single one and I would really like to. Coming from a WoW background I imagine they have to require quite a bit of coordination and offer a totally different experience from veteran dungeon content, but alas I can't be sure.

I understand this content only scales to v14 but for me there are days when it's not about the gear. I have played long enough to the point where I wouldn't mind just doing something different every now and then instead of efficiently trying to improve my character.

I would love to be able to experience this (new for me) content on consistent basis, but it can be very difficult at times to find a group to run with.

The people hanging around the undaunted guys are typically there to get their pledges for the day done so I often fail when asking in that location.

I have been unable to find a group finder option for this content so this is not an avenue I can take

In my experience both on this site (guild forums) and in this game it seems like the majority of guilds promote themselves as traders or pvp guilds.
The few PVE guilds that I have attempted to join have a barren guild chat and there is no sense of community or communication besides a daily note advertising
a raffle or something similar.

I know the devs have to utilize some kind of stat tracking tools. I'm wondering how much of their playerbase is actively consuming this content (DSA, raids) and is it an acceptable figure? Are there any plans to re-promote this content or incorporate additional features/functionality in order to make it easier to experience?

Thanks for your time

result of a mmo without text, smh.
mmos are about rrunning group content. without a text lfg this game taunts us with the best content we cannot find groups to run it with.
worst development decision ever. a mmo you cant play. smfh.

sickboy2808 · December 2015

At Pretzl. Can i join even though im DC Faction? I still wish to try SO as i have never been and also DSA Vet

TX11 · December 2015

anybody here that wants to join a VERY active guild that runs trials 2 nights a week and Imperial city pvp once a week message me. PS4 NA server. I would also like to point out to people that joining a guild only does so much. You need to put yourself out there and join the guild channel. As a guild leader the biggest problem I have is getting people in the guild chat. Seems so much of the game just supports solo stuff that some people only show up when they want something or a group. Put yourselfs out there and you will have a good time. Play said content for the fun and comaderie that it offers for your guild and members. Sunday night I ran trials 7 times all back to back. If you want to join a guild that will take care of you if your loyal and put some effort into it message me psn. If your looking for a guild that is all about hardcore and min, max stuff BHD is not for you. I don't care about how much gold you have, how high your level is or what your character sheet says. I only care about getting people who want to have fun and meet some new people. Message me on PSN. NA

Our website for your viewing. http://bhdclan.enjin.com/home
Also I have been in BHD for 9 years and am one of 3 leaders. This is a guild that is in it for the long haul.

I have only 3 rules.

1. No "N" Words from ANYONE in my chat.
2. No Disrespect to any of the women in the chat or guild.
3. Do not rip off guild mates

These things are auto kick. If you guys can follow these simple rules I will get you an invite just message me.

pretzl · December 2015

sickboy2808 wrote: »

At Pretzl. Can i join even though im DC Faction? I still wish to try SO as i have never been and also DSA Vet

As we are an AD guild, it'll be too hard to get you into a group.
If you were to get a char or two in AD, I'd be happy to get you in and work with ya to prepare for both DSA and SO, but it's just not possible when you're in DC $:\$

Wolfshead · December 2015

@s7732425ub17_ESO

It is true what you say about drop but you dont need to so fare just look at loot drop in mobs when lvl up honest ESO have the worst loot drop rate of any MMO i have been play.

When it come to droping gear as loot it is very bad drop when i hit Vet lvl drop just few and few when come gear not that is was much high on normal lvl.

Just take a World Boss or Quest Boss when you kill them you hope you get some worth you time and most time i have kill World Boss or Quest Boss i most of time only get few gold honest it feel like damn joke.

Serious ZoS if really want people to enjoy your wonderful game add high drop rate on gear so people feel worth go out kill a boss.

TX11 · December 2015

Wolfshead wrote: »

@s7732425ub17_ESO

It is true what you say about drop but you dont need to so fare just look at loot drop in mobs when lvl up honest ESO have the worst loot drop rate of any MMO i have been play.

When it come to droping gear as loot it is very bad drop when i hit Vet lvl drop just few and few when come gear not that is was much high on normal lvl.

Just take a World Boss or Quest Boss when you kill them you hope you get some worth you time and most time i have kill World Boss or Quest Boss i most of time only get few gold honest it feel like damn joke.

Serious ZoS if really want people to enjoy your wonderful game add high drop rate on gear so people feel worth go out kill a boss.

you must not have played that pretend MMO Destiny. Talk about getting the shaft on loot.

sickboy2808 · January 2016

Ok thanx anyway Pretzl. I defo dont have time to make a new char lol but again thanx anyways